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So, Arsenal against Hull City.

Overall I thought we performed okay. We got in Arsenal's faces but obviously we're taking on a team who are light years ahead of us in quality. 3-0 is the sort of result you expect in this game, so while naturally I don't like to see us lose I'm completely unconcerned about the scoreline.

I like to see what our opponent's support has to say before and after they play us, and looking at some of the comments from the Arsenal lot online they seemed to be under the impression that losing this game was going to ruin our Christmas, and quite possibly the next one as well. Er, no. Our biggest match over the Christmas/New Year period wasn't last night's, it certainly isn't Manchester United on the 27th, or Chelsea on the 9th - it's Bolton on the 29th, as this is the match we're most likley to pick points up from. And points make prizes, or something.

I think there's a section of the Arsenal support who seem to be developing a rather unhealthy obsession with seeing us fail, which is jolly nice for them I must say. Watch it - that's how Stoke City started out, and you don't want to end up all embittered like them.

Anyway, for me there were three key points. First there was the stamp by Nasri on Garcia, which the Frenchman should really have walked for. This resulted in a bit of fisticuffs which could really have resulted in cards being shown to several players from both sides, but in the end only Nasri and Hunt were booked. Having seen the incident replayed a couple of times, I'm a little unsure why Hunt was booked as there were players from both sides doing a lot worse than he did - I can only assume it was for his cowardly attempt to headbutt the swinging fist of an Arsenal player?

The penalty decision was a bit soft to say the least, but Geovanni's kick was poor - I think he was trying the trick of taking it slow and hoping the 'keeper dived before he kicked it. Of course, Almunia didn't move (save for a couple of yards forward off his line) and he was easily able to save the weak shot. Had it gone in and we'd got the scores level things may have ended up differently, but that's the way it goes.

The free kick that led to Denilson's goal was beautifully taken, but the decision to award it was as weak as the penalty decision. The player slipped, simple as that.

Comedy moment for me was the shot of the Arsenal subs bench - as you might expect, they were all hat and gloved up, and were wearing the biggest puffa jackets I've seen outside of the Bransholme-Hull city centre bus, but the poor little darlings were sat there with blankets over their knees so they could keep warm. Bloody massive blankets, emblazoned with the club crest.

The. Great. Bloody. Girls. :D

I have a suspiscion that Jack Wilshire's mum rolls up before matches in the manner of Mrs Pike on Dads Army, lambasting Wenger for sending her poor boy out in the cold and doling out blankets and scarves to him and his team mates.

Le garçon stupide...
 
@Jaffa

Do you not think you might get something from Man United? Their 'defence' is all over the place and maybe some direct football will undo them?

Plus the only really important game over the Christmas period, as we all know, is Southend vs. (the mighty) Colchester United. Come on you U's!
 
No, they should rest the first team for the Bolton match and play the reserves against Utd. ;)
I'm sure that would annoy Wenger even more, so it's certainly an idea with merit. :D

capoeirista – like every other match against the 'bigger' teams in the division, when you play them you're not expecting a win but anything you get from them is a bonus.

Granted, Manchester United aren't looking their normally imperious selves but even an under strength United is a formidable opponent for a club of our standing. Let's not forget that they beat us fielding a relatively inexperienced side on the final day of last season, and that we spent last summer trying to smash our transfer record to sign a player who couldn't break into their first team.

When we played them at Old Trafford we lost 4-3 but scared the lives out of them in the second half, for the final ten minutes or so they were panicking all over the park. But we're not as confident now as we were then, and we're missing the swagger we had.

We've got two cracks at them over the next month or so, so we'll have to see. Their makeshift defence needs to be tested, let's give them a game and see what we can get from them.
 
Where will Liverpool's misery end? The speed at which we've gone from being a world class side to a complete mess is shocking.

I'll bet Benitez wishes he still had Crouch and/or Keane right now.

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Arsenal-Hull City match recap

I agree on all points - the penalty was soft, as was the free kick decision before Denilson's goal.

I was also confused as to why Hunt got booked, unless he mouthed off to the ref. Nasri should have seen red for the stamp. Lame penalty by Geovanni, it reminded me of a similarly bad attempt by Columbus' Alejandro Moreno against Toronto two seasons ago. Although, it looked like Geovanni was set to head in the rebound before he got tangled up with the onrushing Hunt.

Overall I think Hull City acquitted themselves reasonably well, Arsenal did get in behind the defense a little too often but this is Arsenal we are talking about.

But where was Jozy?
 
Lots of talk about Hughes' sacking, pretty much the only thing people don't seem to be expressing is surprise. Seems like the timing is geared towards giving Mancini a chance to trade in January, though I imagine the owners already have the usual glittering list of suspects they plan to wave bushels of money in front of.

I think Hughes is a good manager, though he is no Mourinho/Fergie/Hiddink/Capello. lets see what Mancini can do at the Middle Eastlands.

I would have liked to have seen a big strapping lad like Jozy take on Arsenal's midgets. His height would certainly have been useful at set pieces.

I was thinking the same thing. Arsenal are suspect on set pieces, and Jozy is a solid specimen, so I want to say it must have been a fitness or (hopefully not) discipline issue that kept him from making the side.

Sort it out Phil.
 
Lets all give Barcelona a round of applause after an unprecedented sextuple of championships: La Liga, UEFA Champions League, Copa Del Rey, Supercopa de Espana, UEFA Super Cup and FIFA Club World Cup.

Best club side ever? Certainly the best for quite a few years. They won everything they could win in the last year or so, and look set to win plenty this year yet.
 
I was most pleased to see them send Manchester United packing in the Champions League final.

The question is, what's better: A situation like La Liga where Barcelona and Real Madrid are in imperious form, leaving the other clubs fighting for scraps - or the current Premier League season, where the top four look vulnerable and clubs like Aston Villa, Spurs and Man City look like viable challengers for Europe and possibly even a creditable title push?
 
I agree completely. I've been discussing this with some football fans over here, especially since the level of parity built into the MLS ensures that it could never become like Scotland with its Old Firm domination or England with its top four.

Some argue that without super-clubs that dominate the competition, people won't watch a league. But what about all the other teams then? Are they just whipping boys for the Manchester Uniteds and Real Madrids of the world? MLS doesn't have that problem - but I think we are too far the other direction, it's extremely difficult for any team to consolidate a top position in the league, and even if you do you can lose it to a lesser team that gets lucky in the playoffs.

When it comes to building a global brand, perennial success is a must - but it's still a competition, which is why we all love upsets.
 
To be honest, when it's a duopoly it is a very lazy way to support football since when you go to a match you've got a 95% chance of a favorable results, you pay your money and are pretty much guaranteed to walk away happy. But there is less passion since you go to the match expecting the win. But with the Scottish national team it's the reverse, we are the minnows, we don't expect anything, we don't win much, we have a few beers either way, but when the upset comes (France home and away) it's bloody marvelous! :D

I would probably prefer the SPL to be the way of the early 80s with the 'New Firm' (Dundee Utd and Aberdeen) where it was a 4-way race for the league. That would probably attract more TV money.

Looks like it's Levein for Scotland. That will be v.popular but only if he gets his way with the yoof.
 
I agree Fuzzy, and incidentally that's why I'm a country before club man. The USA is always seen as an overdog - except when it comes to the beautiful game, where we regularly get beaten on gleefully. So it's more fun to support, because it feels like the odds are against us.

Looks like Samir Nasri could find himself in hot water with the FA over his stamp on Hull City's Richard Garcia.

Even the commentators at the time thought it was a sending off offense, so I imagine he'll get a ban.

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I love this shot of Steven Hunt btw.
 
I'll be the first to congratulate on FIFA World Player of the year award given towards Messi. It was no surprise, but he still deserved it.

In terms of competitive leagues, I agree. The competition in La Liga is weak compared to the Premier League. Though I find it very odd that even though the Premier league appears so competitive, the same team manages to win over and over. In the last 10 years, 4 teams have won La Liga where as only 3 have won the premier league.

Even though I hate teams that attempt to buy trophies, I still hope Man City does well. Though Aston Villa has shown you don't need huge amounts of money to do well. But let's see how consistent they really are. Last year they were right at the top but fell down later on.

And for another point, as much as I adore Liverpool and I know I'll hate myself for saying this later. It's good to see a big club actually struggle for once. I hope Manchester United face the same thing one day... (soon)
 
Indeed, well done Messi. He's won everything there is to win with the exception of a World Cup, which he may yet accomplish (once Maradona leaves ;) )

As for the Premiership, it's really less competitive than it seems. For the present United are the favorites every year, with Chelsea being a viable threat. Liverpool and Arsenal are always a pair of injuries away from mediocrity. This situation will continue until Liverpool and Arsenal spend more, or Man United and Chelsea spend less. Man City may turn it into a Big Five if they can maintain their frighteningly large expenditures.

And for another point, as much as I adore Liverpool and I know I'll hate myself for saying this later. It's good to see a big club actually struggle for once. I hope Manchester United face the same thing one day... (soon)

Once Ferguson leaves, United will be a different team. Still, a lot of top managers will want that post, and despite the massive debt there always seems to be cash available, so I doubt they'll be relegated or anything...

...though one can always hope. :D
 
But with the Scottish national team it's the reverse, we are the minnows, we don't expect anything, we don't win much, we have a few beers either way, but when the upset comes (France home and away) it's bloody marvelous! :D
I can relate to that one, being a Hull City supporter. You kind of feel sorry for supporters of clubs like Arsenal and Manchester United, as they're so used to success they're almost blasé about it.

Personally, I'd be pleased to see a couple of the 'big four' knocked off their perch by the likes of Manchester City, Spurs and Villa. Liverpool are the most likely candidates I would say, but of the others I'd suggest Arsenal have to be a little more careful about the points they drop – there are teams lurking below them who may well be able to take advantage of a couple of slip ups. I'd imagine they're top four this season, mind.

As for Nasri, he was booked at the time but that was apparently for his part in the handbags that followed, rather than the stamp itself – so he can be retrospectively punished for that. I wouldn't be surprised to see him worm his way out of it, but just in case brace yourself for a torrent of Wenger whinging. It's a witch hunt, don't you know...

I love this shot of Steven Hunt btw.
I've not seen Hunt that incensed since the Police told him to move his caravan along. :p
 
Lets all give Barcelona a round of applause after an unprecedented sextuple of championships: La Liga, UEFA Champions League, Copa Del Rey, Supercopa de Espana, UEFA Super Cup and FIFA Club World Cup.

Best club side ever? Certainly the best for quite a few years. They won everything they could win in the last year or so, and look set to win plenty this year yet.

Woohoo. :)

Now it's official. Best team on the planet and possibly ever! No one has done what Barça have done this year and it can only be equalled never beaten (unless a new competition is created :p ).

Also congrats to Pedro Rodriguez who having come up through the youth system at the start of the year has managed to score in all 6 of those competitions won by Barça (only 4 months since joining first team) no one has ever done that either.

He might yet push Messi for a place in the starting line up. :D
:)
 
I know, Messi (21) is holding us back.

I thought FIFA were trying to make the Club World Cup 'bigger' than the Champions League? How come I couldn't find it on any TV channel? Not even crappy Eurosport had it. How can they increase the brand awareness if they dont show it?

I had to listen to it on Barça's website which is not the best commentary you will here as they are commentating for TV too but simply stream the audio for internet radio. Needless to say it doesnt paint a very good picture of the match.
 
We had the World Club Cup broadcast on Fox soccer Channel here in the States, with the commentators usually assigned to CONCACAF Champions League and a few other things doing decent commentary.

The feed was not the best but it was good overall. I watched three matches and thought it was a pretty good competition. Not "top drawer", but the final was the best match. Estudiantes are a good side.
 
Woohoo. :)

Now it's official. Best team on the planet and possibly ever! No one has done what Barça have done this year and it can only be equalled never beaten (unless a new competition is created :p ).

Also congrats to Pedro Rodriguez who having come up through the youth system at the start of the year has managed to score in all 6 of those competitions won by Barça (only 4 months since joining first team) no one has ever done that either.

He might yet push Messi for a place in the starting line up. :D
:)


Pedro is doing very well! I think he is turning out to be what everyone expected Bojan to be. Although, I still love Bojan, he's a nice fellow. :)


I know, Messi (21) is holding us back.

I thought FIFA were trying to make the Club World Cup 'bigger' than the Champions League? How come I couldn't find it on any TV channel? Not even crappy Eurosport had it. How can they increase the brand awareness if they dont show it?

I had to listen to it on Barça's website which is not the best commentary you will here as they are commentating for TV too but simply stream the audio for internet radio. Needless to say it doesnt paint a very good picture of the match.

Yeah I also thought that was sort of weird. I honestly didn't even know it was on until someone on my twitter feed said so. I ended up watching it on some low-quality Justin.tv feed with spanish commentary (I don't know any spanish!).
 
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