ya i wish rubans would have one, he has been in second place for so long. how old is he compared to jenson
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
2009 Formula One Thread
- Thread starter R.Youden
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
i dunno if you guys heard but that thing about who ever has the most wins, wins the championship, got thrown out.
Force India? Or maybe Torro Rosso as they could be left with some sort of Flintstones arrangement as Ferrari provide their engine
Force India? Or maybe Torro Rosso as they could be left with some sort of Flintstones arrangement as Ferrari provide their engine
But those teams aren't so far up their own arses that they're inside out...
EDIT: I suppose I could go back to laughing at McLaren, but without Ron it won't be nearly as much fun...
if you care about F1 you should. No matter how much you hate them, they are a very big part of F1.
If they leave to another series, other teams will follow and F1 will become the equivalent of GP2.
would you rather watch a new series with Ferrari, BMW, Renault, Red Bull, Toyota or the Ecclestone/Mosley F1 with McLaren, Brawn, Force India, Williams ?
The latter.
I only watch F1 to moan about how crap it is...
And I've been watching it for 20 years...
For proper racing I'll watch the motorbikes.
Ok, if that's the case i have no arguments.in reality i think that an alternative series would be the best solution to get out of BE/MM claws. and i would actually bet that all the current teams would leave F1 for it
in reality i think that an alternative series would be the best solution to get out of BE/MM claws. and i would actually bet that all the current teams would leave F1 for it
Well look how far the break away series got a few years back...
Didn't Ferrari start all that too?
Unfortunately Bernie has it all sown up in terms of TV contracts, exclusive deals with a lot of the circuits etc. If the new series has rules that allow for more variance in the cars, more overtaking and somehow manages to get races at the important historic circuits, not just circuits that F1 doesn't want then maybe it'll take off.
If it ends up racing at Brands Hatch with coverage on Sky only (in the UK) then it might as well be A1GP (which is great to go to as a spectator, but it's not F1).
I'm british. It's our national sport.
I keep watching it in the hope it gets better and finally, after 9 years, it has.
it's a good point, and i really don't know if F1 has exclusivity rights on the circuits (seems improbable to me though), but i am sure that those contracts also have protections for The TV and circuits as well.
If 'F1' shows up without Ferrari and most of the other teams, that would likely void the contracts and/or modify them.
And there are other circuits that will be wanting in in the new series, not to mention how pissed all the 'new venues' would be in being ripped off of the real racing. Can you imagine the pressure from Abu Dhabi and Barhein on bernie if ferrari is gone?
I'm british. It's our national sport.
I was so close to posting a Mary Whitehouse link. Surely the ultimate example of someone who watched stuff just to complain about it!
To be honest I wouldn't miss them, though the occasional howler they come up with is good entertainment. Nothing lasts forever.
I don't think they would leave, they have quite a good deal with F1. If they left for some other competition I doubt it would get the same coverage, and I wonder how other teams would feel racing under Ferrari's rules?
I don't think they would leave, they have quite a good deal with F1. If they left for some other competition I doubt it would get the same coverage, and I wonder how other teams would feel racing under Ferrari's rules?
No, thrown out for 2010 too. The FIA even stated they posted that as a part of the regs by mistake.
One of the interesting things of the new regulations will be the new teams. I speculate that Lola (because of their engineering experience), USF1 (new market) and Prodrive/ Aston Martin (previous F1 experience with Dave Richards) would be the extra teams, but an interesting side product of that would be the new drivers. With a budget, there would be a lesser need for paid drivers (£40million could be supported by a number of sponsors, rather than relying on a few large ones), so the opportunity for newer drivers would be better.
Why is this important? Well, this year only one new driver entered F1 - Sebastien Buemi, and that was because of the Red Bull Racing programme. Last year's GP2 winner Giorgio Pantano became the first GP2 champion not to get an F1 drive in the following season (tho' he has had a season with Jordan previously). Autosport speculate that Adam Carroll (winner of the A1GP with Eire) could join Lola next year, and remember that Gary Paffett and Pedro de la Rosa were lined up for the Prodrive seats in 2008. The next few weeks of negotiations could be very interesting...
Why is this important? Well, this year only one new driver entered F1 - Sebastien Buemi, and that was because of the Red Bull Racing programme. Last year's GP2 winner Giorgio Pantano became the first GP2 champion not to get an F1 drive in the following season (tho' he has had a season with Jordan previously). Autosport speculate that Adam Carroll (winner of the A1GP with Eire) could join Lola next year, and remember that Gary Paffett and Pedro de la Rosa were lined up for the Prodrive seats in 2008. The next few weeks of negotiations could be very interesting...
The $40 budget "cap" does not include a huge number of things. One of them is driver salary.
At this point the new two-tiers regulation proposed are as good as dead.
So far the only team on board is Williams (with no engine), with the mercedes teams on the fence.
even assuming that the new teams (and their sponsors) are still interested in joining F1b, i doubt that they'll be able to maintain the public's interest and their TV contracts with a bunch of nobodies.
if a FOTA breakaway series is formed, as it is becoming possible, i know what i will be watching.
At the end, FIA will have to cave in and largely go with the FOTA proposals (which are quite reasonable).
I think you are correct. Although it's all looking rather academic as I can't see the FIA not backing down.