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2009 Formula One Thread

Do I understand this correctly?

Lotus F1 has no affiliation with Lotus road cars, but they are authorized by the parent group that owns Lotus road cars? I thought I had seen something about a pending lawsuit a while back about usage of the name.
 
Superman07 said:
Do I understand this correctly?

Lotus F1 has no affiliation with Lotus road cars, but they are authorized by the parent group that owns Lotus road cars? I thought I had seen something about a pending lawsuit a while back about usage of the name.
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Yes, that's basically it. Lotus F1 has nothing todo with Lotus Cars or Lotus Engineering. Or with the Lotus team who competed in F1 previously and were, at times, successful. So when Lotus F1 are at the back or the grid those of us with Lotus road cars can disown then :)
 
Superman07 said:
Do I understand this correctly?

Lotus F1 has no affiliation with Lotus road cars, but they are authorized by the parent group that owns Lotus road cars? I thought I had seen something about a pending lawsuit a while back about usage of the name.
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I believe Mike Gascoyne acquired the rights to the Lotus name, and it's being used without dispute. Are you sure you're not thinking of the Brabham family, who I believe had threatened legal action in order to prevent one of the proposed 2010 teams from using the name.

I'm surprised ProDrive F1 didn't get in, in particular ahead of Manor Grand Prix who seem very much an unknown quantity.

Great fun reading about all the proposals, it's a pretty incestuous and volatile business!
 
whooleytoo said:
I believe Mike Gascoyne acquired the rights to the Lotus name, and it's being used without dispute. Are you sure you're not thinking of the Brabham family, who I believe had threatened legal action in order to prevent one of the proposed 2010 teams from using the name.
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I'm not sure about that, or who he might have purchased that from, but Lotus F1 are certainly being funded by Proton who own Lotus Cars and Engineering. They are currently based in Norfolk (closish to Lotus Cars) but this is a temporary arrangement. Their eventual home will be at Sepang.
 
whooleytoo said:
I believe Mike Gascoyne acquired the rights to the Lotus name, and it's being used without dispute. Are you sure you're not thinking of the Brabham family, who I believe had threatened legal action in order to prevent one of the proposed 2010 teams from using the name.
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You may be correct on that. Whatever it was it was a few months back.

Thanks to you and robbie for clearing that up.
 
robbieduncan said:
I'm not sure about that, or who he might have purchased that from, but Lotus F1 are certainly being funded by Proton who own Lotus Cars and Engineering. They are currently based in Norfolk (closish to Lotus Cars) but this is a temporary arrangement. Their eventual home will be at Sepang.
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Winner.
 
robbieduncan said:
I'm not sure about that, or who he might have purchased that from, but Lotus F1 are certainly being funded by Proton who own Lotus Cars and Engineering. They are currently based in Norfolk (closish to Lotus Cars) but this is a temporary arrangement. Their eventual home will be at Sepang.
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The Litespeed F3 team - along with Gascoyne - purchased the rights (presumably, just to "Lotus F1") from David Hunt (brother of James), who had bought the defunct Lotus F1 team back in the '90s and had been trying to revive the marque in F1 ever since.

Though their application was rejected, Gascoyne succeeded in the subsequent bid, as technical director of Lotus F1, with backing from a Malaysian consortium (including of course, Proton).

I wonder if they actually had to buy "their" name back from Gascoyne or Litespeed F3. That seems odd, but presumably they must have. I think I read Litespeed F3 are also now trying to buy a 10% share in the new Lotus F1 team as well.

p.s. ignore my previous comment about there being no issue with the use of the name. This article states Lotus did threaten Litespeed F3 with legal action, not accepting their claim to the Lotus racing brand. Ho hum.
 
robbieduncan said:
Lotus F1 has nothing todo with Lotus Cars or Lotus Engineering.
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Well... the new team is a closer relative to the car co. than the early '90's Team Lotus. But to be truthful, you'd have to go back a long way to find any truly tenable link between Lotus Cars and the grand prix team bearing the same name.
 
Very disappointing that they chose someone with such obvious ties to an existing team, rather than someone with experience of both motorsport AND politics.
 
I see Donington Park is in technical breach of contract due to the failure to secure funding to host the 2010 British GP and Bernie is back talking to Silverstone as a possible fall-back.

And USF1 wants Kyle Busch in the car for 2011.
 
Superman07 said:
Looks like Todt is the new FIA president.

Maybe I don't have enough insight, but I thought Vatanen was doing better based on news reports. It was worse than 2:1 though. :confused:

A shame really since I was hoping to get some impartiality away from Ferrari.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79695
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Yes, the U.N. observers have reported concerns of voter fraud, especially in areas controlled by the tifosi.
 
ahhh i don't want to read whats happening.
my tivo didn't record the race, only practice and qualifying, and i can't find the race anywhere.

anyone have it? or know where i can get it?
 
OllyW said:
What? Last weekends Brazilian GP?

If so then your best bet's BitTorrent.
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ya brazil.
sorry it takes me a little while to watch the races as i have very little time.
ugh i don't want to jinx it but i hope barrichello wins :D.

ya i already looked. even on my private sites i couldn't get anything, except last years race, which i downloaded mistakenly.
 
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