2010/11 NHL Season, Stanley Cup Playoffs & off-season Thread

[bruinsrme]

Mooney, if a ref would have seen that play, at the very least it would have been an interference penalty. Ference isn't supposed to brace himself for impact in that situation- he's supposed to try to avoid hitting Halpern. If Halpern had the puck, then it was probably an unpenalized hit. Since the puck wasn't anywhere near them, it should have been at the least a 2 minute interference penalty. There was definite intent on Ference's part to hit Halpern, and he knew that Halpern wasn't expecting it. When you hit someone that doesn't have the puck, it's an interference penalty. Come on, dude. These are the rules. He's just lucky that the refs didn't see his stupid split second decision.

Even the US team biased Versus commentators were criticizing Ference on the play.

I guess the league thinks there might be a reason to discipline:
Bruin' Ference faces hearing for hit on Halpern

None of the Habs that were laid out by the Bruins took a dive or were faking when on the ice. See, when you get hit in the head, and you don't expect it, you go down hard. Maybe you're able to get up right away, maybe you can't and you have to lie there until the stars and chirpy little birds go away. The result of having your brain sloshed around inside your skull is very unpredictable.

Spacek wasn't the same player after being leveled by Lucic. The right call was made on that play.


Anywho....... I think the Bolts might be the darkhorse shocker, and will take down the Caps. Roloson is a playing like a goalie possessed.

Lucic call was technically correct, no argument there. Perhaps spacek will turn towards the play next time.


Well with exception of JR and Mike Keenan

Quote from JR, Surely if your not familiar with this American born hockey player it is Jeremy Roenick:
"there should not have been a call. Jeff Harpen, not looking where he was going, Ference knew was was going on, and he's not getting out of the way."

Mike Keenan agreed!

Ference was looking up ice, Harpen was turning not even looking up ice.

 

[MooneyFlyer]

Mooney, if a ref would have seen that play, at the very least it would have been an interference penalty. Ference isn't supposed to brace himself for impact in that situation- he's supposed to try to avoid hitting Halpern. If Halpern had the puck, then it was probably an unpenalized hit. Since the puck wasn't anywhere near them, it should have been at the least a 2 minute interference penalty. There was definite intent on Ference's part to hit Halpern, and he knew that Halpern wasn't expecting it. When you hit someone that doesn't have the puck, it's an interference penalty. Come on, dude. These are the rules. He's just lucky that the refs didn't see his stupid split second decision.

Even the US team biased Versus commentators were criticizing Ference on the play.

I guess the league thinks there might be a reason to discipline:
Bruin' Ference faces hearing for hit on Halpern

None of the Habs that were laid out by the Bruins took a dive or were faking when on the ice. See, when you get hit in the head, and you don't expect it, you go down hard. Maybe you're able to get up right away, maybe you can't and you have to lie there until the stars and chirpy little birds go away. The result of having your brain sloshed around inside your skull is very unpredictable.

Spacek wasn't the same player after being leveled by Lucic. The right call was made on that play.


Anywho....... I think the Bolts might be the darkhorse shocker, and will take down the Caps. Roloson is a playing like a goalie possessed.

I wrote this once and lost it so this will be shorter.

I have too much respect for Surely's knowledge of the game to give too much grief but I just can't see it that way. This used to be called incidental contact away from the play. If Ference significantly changed his angle, lifted his arms, etc. then I can see it your way but he has every right to that part of the ice. You can't run your face into another guy and then say he was targeting your head.

If Ference goes down instead of Halpern is it interference the other way?

Regarding the diving thing:
- Subban's dive while holding Campbell's stick was deplorable. This guy is a disgrace.
- Hamerlick's dive after setting his skates to take out Kelly and getting the worst of it was just as pathetic. The good news here is that him feigning injury took him out of the play and resulted in Kelly's goal. Good - get out.

Maybe this is the way the game is going these days but it just isn't played that way here. The fans would eat the team alive.

zioxide - See you there Wednesday. Unfortunately I'm traveling Thursday through Sunday next week so I'll miss Friday's game.

 

[robo]

Ugh.. I'll come up with my second round picks soon. My first round picks weren't too bad. Had the Ducks which was just plain wrong and missed a bunch of series going to 7 games (though I sort of knew that I guess). But did call TB - clearly lucky.

Anyway - Looking forward to a good rematch with Philly, Robo.

Ditto,If Boosh can play solid in net and the D play good in front of him I think we take you guys. The only guy that scares me on your team is Timmy
Peace
Otav89

 

[charlesbronsen]

Let's talk about teams that are still in it, like Philly and Boston, and how I got tickets to game 3 in Boston on Wednesday night.

you lucky bugger

 

[MooneyFlyer]

FWIW-

Bruins - 7
Canucks - 6
Redwings - 7 (despite my allegiance to the Sharks)
Capitals - 6

just over two hours until the fun all starts again.

 

[Surely]

I still disagree. If a ref would have seen the play, he would have been called for interference. Ferrence braced himself and even leaned into the hit instead of getting out of the way. His skates changed directions/swerved a little towards the hit when he saw he could clip Halpern. He could have gotten out of the way, he had time. If they were both just skating in the same area, and neither of them saw the collision about to happen, Ferrence would have gone flying too.

Lack of respect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffiQUe1tfqM (around 43 seconds in)

Moving on............

Ditto,If Boosh can play solid in net and the D play good in front of him I think we take you guys. The only guy that scares me on your team is Timmy
Peace
Otav89

Agreed.



Did anyone watch the Nash/Van game last night? Man, I think that was the most boring game of the entire playoffs.



An interesting stat that I heard today:

Ryan Kesler scored 41 goals during the regular season. 33 of the 41 goals were against non-playoff teams. That means that he only scored 8 goals against teams that were good enough to make the playoffs. Number of goals that he's scored during the playoffs this year: zero. Interesting.



My picks:
Flyers- 7 (lots of injured players as a result of this series)
Lightning- 6 (I think Stamkos comes alive this round)
Canucks- 6 (although it wouldn't surprise me to see them collapse again)
Red Wings- 6 (will win the Cup)

 

[MooneyFlyer]

You might be onto something with TB. they certainly can turn it on. And, is anyone faster than St. Louis?

 

[runlsd]

Ryan Kesler scored 41 goals during the regular season. 33 of the 41 goals were against non-playoff teams. That means that he only scored 8 goals against teams that were good enough to make the playoffs. Number of goals that he's scored during the playoffs this year: zero. Interesting.

It'd be nice to see Kesler pot one here and there.. But if he shuts down/contains the other teams' top players (like Toews), I'd be satisfied.

 

[MooneyFlyer]

Lack of respect.

That is definitely clear. Watching the Philly / Bruins now. Lots of cheap hits. Very poor refs.

 

[robo]

Just caught some on the lowlights.Too many guys watching the puck and NOT the man. The team basically hung both goalies out to dry. I'm sure Lavy will fix that in game two. Will see...

 

[Illuminated]

...it's just game 1...


...but it's also part of the Flyers plan...go down 3 games to 0, and then let the Bruins eat the poop and win the next 4!


I was at work so I didn't catch the game, but I'm not worried yet.

 

[cuestakid]

pekka rinne should not have to buy dinner for the remainder of the playoffs-
That save on burrows was the save of the year

 

[iApples]

pekka rinne should not have to buy dinner for the remainder of the playoffs-
That save on burrows was the save of the year

Haha agreed. That save changed this series completely.

 

[Apple OC]

Nashville for the Stanley Cup ... go Preds

 

[robo]

Mooney
Props to your boyz yesterday We got out coached and outplayedThat WILL change on Monday Trust me...
Peace
Otav89

 

[Surely]

An example of respect:

It was a pretty nothing play with 15 seconds left in regulation in game 1 between the Wings and Sharks (it was tied 1-1). Marleau skated up against the boards in his own zone to clear the puck. Bertuzzi was bearing down on him, had him lined up, and could have destroyed him up against the boards (I kind of expected a big hit).....Marleau didn't see him coming. But instead of leveling him, Bertuzzi let up, made soft contact, and put his hand on his shoulder (as if to say: "careful I'm here"). He hit him enough to stop Marleau from moving. He took him out of the play without trying to hit him as hard as he could. Marleau was able to clear the puck in the split second before Bertuzzi hit him, and if Bertuzzi would have hit him hard, the puck would still already have been cleared. The big hit would not have changed the outcome of that play (expect it probably would have caused an injury).

Bertuzzi had the ability to decide what the correct hockey play in that situation should be. Why can't other players?




I'd love to say that I'm going to watch game 2, but there's no way in hell I'm staying home on a sunny, beautiful Sunday afternoon. Same reason why I didn't see yesterday afternoon's game. If the NHL wants to do better on the West Coast, perhaps they should avoid showing games at noon PST on the weekend? Hmmmmm.....sit on the couch inside or go to the beach............hard....to....decide.....


robo
Hopefully your boys play more like men tomorrow.

 

[Apple OC]

Annti Niemi shutting down the Red Wings ... I still cannot see why Chicago did not keep this guy ... He was what got them the Stanley Cup last year.

 

[MooneyFlyer]

Mooney
Props to your boyz yesterday We got out coached and outplayedThat WILL change on Monday Trust me...
Peace
Otav89

Thanks - but it is just one. And, that wasn't the real Flyers that showed up.

 

[cuestakid]

Annti Niemi shutting down the Red Wings ... I still cannot see why Chicago did not keep this guy ... He was what got them the Stanley Cup last year.

Contracts to Hossa, Campbell and Keith forced them to make choices (byfuglien). Sharks tried to get Hjalmarsson but Hawks didnt want to get rid of him, so they were forced to get rid of Niemi.

I have to say that this game was the most complete total team defensive effort I have seen them engage in this year and possibly in a long time. Nevertheless, we are still a long way away and must now go into the House that Steve built (yzerman that is)-or as I like to call it, "the rebound house of hell".

 

[robo]

robo
Hopefully your boys play more like men tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

Dude
I'm not in the least bit worried. Trust me,they will show up to play
otav89

 

[Illuminated]

Sadly, the Flyers are not as good as they were last season. I don't see them coming back to win this series.

 

[Surely]

robo
dude........



I can't believe that the Wings are down 2-0. Didn't see that happening.

I didn't think that the Bolts would be up 2-0.....I thought they would split the games in DC. I do think that they'll take the series.


Anyone else think that the 1st round > 2nd round so far?

 

[cuestakid]

robo
dude........



I can't believe that the Wings are down 2-0. Didn't see that happening.

I didn't think that the Bolts would be up 2-0.....I thought they would split the games in DC. I do think that they'll take the series.


Anyone else think that the 1st round > 2nd round so far?

i think the only reason that the Sharks are up 2-0 is because of last year. I can see its a different team-they not only know they can beat the Wings, they believe that they can do it again and again. Everyone is working-we won yesterday because we played total team Defense. Everyone was getting back and getting in passing lanes, blocking shots, ect.

I am not cocky at all-its simply not possible when you play the wings. We cannot get complacent-we must keep the foot on the gas and keep our hands around their necks.

I know this is not the political section but I just want to ask you Robo one question:

Were you at the that flyers pre-season game where the game was stopped so that everyone (players and refs included) could continue to listen to the presidents speech which was being played during the intermission?

 

[iApples]

i think the only reason that the Sharks are up 2-0 is because of last year. I can see its a different team-they not only know they can beat the Wings, they believe that they can do it again and again. Everyone is working-we won yesterday because we played total team Defense. Everyone was getting back and getting in passing lanes, blocking shots, ect.

I am not cocky at all-its simply not possible when you play the wings. We cannot get complacent-we must keep the foot on the gas and keep our hands around their necks.

I know this is not the political section but I just want to ask you Robo one question:

Were you at the that flyers pre-season game where the game was stopped so that everyone (players and refs included) could continue to listen to the presidents speech which was being played during the intermission?

Not to mention the wings are frustrated. Last game you could really notice it. Especially when San Jose went up 2-0. I haven't seen the wings get frustrated in a long time...

 

[robo]

robo
dude........



I can't believe that the Wings are down 2-0. Didn't see that happening.

I didn't think that the Bolts would be up 2-0.....I thought they would split the games in DC. I do think that they'll take the series.


Anyone else think that the 1st round > 2nd round so far?

Apparently JVR was the only guy who showed up to play Still don't know what happen to D. It's getting to the point where I can't even watch Boosh

I wonder if the "Mystery Man" will show up on Wed.

otav89