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Also, this should make evilgEEk pretty happy. ESPN's mock BCS poll (what they think the BCS would look like if it was released today instead of next week):

  1. Boise State
  2. Oregon
  3. TCU
  4. Oklahoma
  5. Ohio State
  6. LSU
  7. Nebraska
  8. Auburn
  9. Michigan State
  10. Alabama

Be cool to see a TCU vs OU rematch, Frogs need to prove that they can play with anyone at anytime. I'd love to see what kind of spin he BCS and NCAA cronies will pull outta their arse's if Boise and TCU match up as #1 and #2. Would never happen, but could you imagine the insanity?!
 
I dunno. That UT win was pure luck. That game was lost until UT pulled an even more boneheaded move than LSU. The bad part is that it was the same thing that happened in the Ole Miss game last year. You would think they may have worked on clock management at some point. Like I said before, LSU is a good team with a great defense and a pathetic offense and Miles isn't a terrible coach. I suppose my point is that he seems to have a lot more of the "WTF???" moments than other coaches, and he has been lucky to escape many of them so far.

Clearly the UT game was a lucky break, I'll give you that. But my point was that a lot of people dismiss Miles as a bad coach because his team has been lucky a few times. Despite his many warts, he is also very good. LSU plays with a lot of moxie, and more often than not makes their own luck. Miles is 56-15 overall (with one national championship), 30-13 in SEC play (with two SEC championships), and 4-1 in bowl games (2-0 in BCS bowl games).

So yeah, he's lucky, but he's also damned good and very underrated.
 
Also, this should make evilgEEk pretty happy. ESPN's mock BCS poll (what they think the BCS would look like if it was released today instead of next week):

  1. Boise State
  2. Oregon
  3. TCU
  4. Oklahoma
  5. Ohio State
  6. LSU
  7. Nebraska
  8. Auburn
  9. Michigan State
  10. Alabama

One of the prettiest things I've ever seen. ;)

I know it won't stay that way, as our computer rankings will continue to fall due to our next three games being San Jose State, La Tech and Hawaii, but I really hope we hold on to that #1 spot next Sunday just to say we held it once. :)

I'm pretty sure there has never been a non-AQ team with a #1 spot in any poll in the BCS era. I would absolutely love for Boise State to be the first to accomplish that! :D
 
Clearly the UT game was a lucky break, I'll give you that. But my point was that a lot of people dismiss Miles as a bad coach because his team has been lucky a few times. Despite his many warts, he is also very good. LSU plays with a lot of moxie, and more often than not makes their own luck. Miles is 56-15 overall (with one national championship), 30-13 in SEC play (with two SEC championships), and 4-1 in bowl games (2-0 in BCS bowl games).

So yeah, he's lucky, but he's also damned good and very underrated.

Oh, I agree with you 100%. I laugh at these idiot LSU fans who want him fired even with that kind of record. I would sell my soul to for my Dawgs to be that successful. LSU fans just got spoiled under Saban and seemed to have blocked out the 90s, when they sucked. Not that LSU sucking stopped them from owning us, even when we had good teams under Jackie Sherrill. I blame Voodoo.

I just think that any other coach who pulled some of the crap he has would have a much worse record. I mean, really...going for it 4 times on 4th down...and making every one of them? It's gotta be Voodoo, right? :) He does need to fire Gary Crowton, though. Their offense has been terrible the past couple of years. Eventually, it has to come back and bite them.

I have a really funny caption pic concerning Miles, but it's probably too NSFW to post here.

Edit: I did find this one:
 

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So, who do you think will have more losses this year: A&M or UT?

This year, probably UT. :(

Of course if you could you would paint your jet that nasty burnt orange color.:)

I look good in burnt orange (more importantly, so does my wife!), but I sure as hell wouldn't paint an airplane that color. Same thing with Michigan's colors - I like them, but that poor Lear looks ridiculous!

With a giant uterus on the side...

Heh - the horrible irony is that my primary bird is white with maroon accents. It looks good too, which makes me want to puke that much more!

Next loss coming this Saturday...

Yeah, it's not gonna be pretty. NU has a heck of a team this year.
 
Very interesting letter from the University of Montana AD discussing the needs of his school as well as the current state of the FCS.

I'm not sure if it was ever meant to be public, though...

Montana Athletic Director about FCS vs FBS

By Jim O'Day, Montana AD

I understand your concerns - you are not alone. This is, perhaps, the most critical decision to ever face the intercollegiate athletic program at The University of Montana.

With state funding flat and student athletic fees holding tight, and with expenses growing year-by-year at a steady pace (at least $250,000 per year alone in just scholarship costs and related room/board costs for out student-athletes), we find ourselves at a cross roads. With revenues presently capped at about $13 million per year, we are having to find ways to cut expenses… and one option may have to be scholarships to out-of-state student athletes if we cannot find new revenue sources. We realize this could hurt our competitiveness as we cannot just take out of certain non-revenue generating sports because of Title IX issues. In addition, our insurance continues to rise, as does rent and travel. We can assume our expenses will jump at least $500,000 annually… and really no new revenue to meet these increases. We have continued to cut our expenses about $250,000 or more per year for the past three years…. But now we are down to the bare bone. Any further cuts will affect programs. You can see that already --- our entire budget for recruiting for all 14 sports is $178,000; at Montana State it’s $408,000 per the recently released NCAA audit numbers.

Currently, we charge the highest prices at the Football Championship Subdivision level for football tickets. How much more can we ask of our fans to try and keep us competitive (there are no guarantees). We generate about $4.2 million in football tickets right now…. Twice the $2.1 million brought in by Appalachian State at No. 2 amongst FCS schools. By comparison, Montana State brings in about $1.2 million per year - Washington State at $3.8 million - and Idaho at $900,000. To stay with us, MSU is making up the difference with institutional support and student athletic fees (MSU is at $144/student/year; UM is $72/student/year; the UM and MSU athletic budgets are almost identical - yet the expense lines vary because of our private funding successes). Student-athletic fees vary across the country. At James Madison, they are $1,400 per student per year. Old Dominion and Appalachian State are about $700 per student/year; while the average in the Big Sky Conference is $200/student/year. Note: Northern Arizona does not yet pay a student-athletic fee. Instead, they get the same state appropriation as Arizona and Arizona State - or about $8 million per year. On the other end of the spectrum, Sac State receives little institutional support, yet the student-athletic fee is about $265/student/year --- and generates almost $9 million for the athletics department.

Here’s an estimated breakdown of how we produce our revenues….

Football tickets $4,200,000 (MSU - $1.2 million)

Institutional support $4,500,000 (MSU - $6.7 million)

Grizzly Scholarship Association $1,500,000 (MSU - $1 million)

Student Fees $1,000,000 (MSU - $1.8 million)

Corporate/Grizzly Sports Prop. $ 650,000 (MSU - $350,00)

Men’s basketball $ 400,000 (MSU - $200,000)

Women’s basketball $ 350,000 (MSU - $50,000)

Game guarantees $ 150,000 (MSU - $800,000)

NCAA monies $ 300,000 (MSU - $300,000)

Big Sky Conference $ 125,000 (MSU - $125,000)

Television $ 75,000 (MSU - $65,000)

CLC $ 20,000 (MSU - $160,000)

Now we face the ever-mounting challenge of how to produce more revenue?

At the same time, we also have Title IX issues that Montana State does not have. UM has a 54% female population; Montana State is 54% male. We have a 40% female to male student-athlete ratio (we need to be at 54% or close - or spend 54% of our funding on female sports - neither of which is possible with football. Montana State is just the opposite as it needs a ratio of about 54% male, or 54% spending on male sports… thus, not an issue to them). We are struggling with the third and final prong for Title IX compliance, which is currently under heavier scrutiny based on recent Obama Administration interpretation. We will most likely need to add two female sports shortly or face possibly penalty. Those penalties do not affect the athletic programs - but schools in general as their federal funds/grants/research dollars can be impacted - or about $150 million annually at UM that could be at risk. Thus, somehow, we need to find about $2 million more per year (not counting facilities) to run two new programs. Thus, we most likely will need higher student fees to meet these Title IX and related expenses. Doubt it any of this money would help any other concerns (maintaining football funding, facility improvements, etc.). Also, additional institutional support is out of the question…. It is so tight right now.

Looking at our present revenue structure, one way to increase funding is to consider a move to the Football Bowl Subdivision (NCAA revenues, game guarantees, television, conference dollars and corporate dollars are significantly higher. For example, Idaho receives almost $2.5 million in league revenues, and another $500,000 in television revenues) - but this is not a “for sure” situation either. Instead, it might be considered a gamble - maybe not necessarily a risk. Could we lose fans in the stands? Absolutely. Could we right now if we went 6-5 or less? Absolutely. Would fans continue to come if we charge high prices for Western States of Colorado, or maybe even Montana Tech? Who knows. Will they come if our schedule consists of Idaho, Utah State, Hawaii, San Jose State… and non-conference games against schools such as Boise State, Nevada, Wyoming and Washington State? Possibly. Note: Wyoming is hosting Nebraska next year. In exchange, they will travel to Nebraska in 2012 and 2013. In 2013, Nebraska will pay Wyoming $1 million for making the trip. Last year, Wyoming hosted Texas as part of a home-and-home contract. Those are not available to us now. In fact, WAC or Mountain West schools are no longer allowed to play at FCS schools via by-law changes. They also are recommending they don’t play ANY FCS school - home or away. That begs the question: Who do Montana fans want to see in the next 2-10 years in Washington-Grizzly Stadium. At the FCS level, there are fewer and fewer out there who will come here.

Couple other things to realize:

--- Both the Big Sky Conference and the WAC NEED Montana. Where ever we end, that conference will most likely survive at a higher level. The commissioners of both conferences know that, as do the schools (although some at the Big Sky level would hate to admit it).

--- Montana is THE school west of the Mississippi in the FCS - and the only one since Boise in 1994 to make the championship game (which the Broncos lost). The Big Sky losing Montana would be devastating to some as they need the traveling Montana fans to attend their contests, and purchase tickets. We are also responsible for the television dollars associated with each of the league schools. For example, KPAX/MTN bid $100,000 to television the Griz-Cat game, the next highest bidder was Max Media at $20,000. Our other games were bid at $10,000 each by KPAX; Max Media pays $2,500 to do Bobcat telecasts. Thus, Max Media is spending more money in production equipment; while the schools are getting the cash from KPAX. By league policy, 60% of the revenue from these telecasts go to the HOME team (not UM), 35% to the visitor and 5% to the league. So how out-of-line is this: Last year, MSU received $60,000 of KPAX’s bid (to do UM games), while Montana received $35,000 and the conference $5,000. These are the reasons why Boise State left the Big Sky in the mid-1990s; why BYU and Texas are doing what they’re doing right now. They want to control their television money. The television money should be following UM, but we get outvoted on this 8-1 whenever it comes up.

--- Football at UM breaks even. We generate $6.5 in revenues; and the expenses associated with football at $6.5. Thus, others are probably losing $3-$4.5 million annually. How long can that continue at some schools?

--- We are struggling to find opponents to play in Missoula…. Cost is high, plus we win 93% of our games here. People do not like to come here. Even Division II schools are asking “guarantees” in excess of $125,000 to come here. That cuts drastically into our revenues.

--- We are NOT guaranteed home playoff games. We have been extremely fortunate in the past. To put in perspective, we made about $100,000 for the three home playoff games last year - and sent another $1.1 million to the NCAA. A regular season home game nets between $400,000 and $1 million (Montana State, App State, etc.). Being in the WAC, we are allowed 12 games instead of 11 - and 13 when you play at Hawaii. So instead of $100,000 at max, we would be seeing additional dollars… at a minimum of $300,000.

--- The FCS playoff system is hurting financially. We produced $1.1 million of last year’s budget of $2.5 million. The other 11 games produced less than $1 million TOTAL. The NCAA lost almost $500,000 again, and it will not continue to tolerate to follow this plan. Now we’ve added another round and four more teams…. Being on the committee, and as chair, I know this is a major concern to the NCAA - and a last-gasp reason for changing to Frisco, Texas, in hopes of attracting more attention and support. It won’t help to move the championship back three weeks into January - let alone that it will be taking place 40 minutes away from the Cotton Bowl, which has also been moved to that night. So much for FCS exposure on national television. Just to keep the student-athletes on campus during Christmas will also cost the two schools in the championship an additional $100,000 - none of which is budgeted. And to put in perspective, we LOST $150,000 each of the past two year going to the championship game. Had we won, the incentives for coaches would have put the losses over $200,000 each time. We get no additional revenue for any of this.

--- AND OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE: We are NOT considering the health and welfare of the student-athletes, who are having to spend at least one month of playing 4-5 more games --- which is permanently damaging their bodies - and hurting their academics. This is not fair to them - nor their coaches. This is where all of us are selfish, and want the playoff system vs. a bowl. At the FBS level, there is a month off to recover bodies, take care of academics and finals, and at the end, a reward of a bowl and some fun --- and the schools don’t lose money like we do at the FCS level.

History will determine if the decision by the new President (Royce Engstrom) to either remain where we are, or take a new direction, was correct. There are no easy answers. Heck, had we gone to the WAC a few years ago, we’d probably be in a much more lucrative Mountain West Conference right now with schools we consider on academic par - Wyoming, Colorado State, etc. Who knows what will happen. I would venture to say there are only about four conferences right now who appear to be solid and control their own destiny --- the SEC, the Big 10, the Big 12 (unless Texas and Oklahoma do an “about face” in the next few years) and the Pac 12 Even the ACC and the Big East have issues, let alone those like Conference USA. The Mountain West is starting to look more like the old WAC (especially if TCU bolts, which is likely). Could that mean a merger of the Mountain West and WAC down the road…. Again. This could be a distinct possibility. That being said, where does that leave the Big Sky? Should the FCS fail - which is another possibility, especially with Appalachian State, James Madison, Villanova, Delaware, Georgia Southern, Richmond and others being considered for moves into other conference alliances within FBS conferences - would we be all alone? How many schools in the Big Sky would still be offering football, or would we become a basketball conference? Would it even be Division I, or would we be forced out to Division II? If you don’t have an invitation from a Division I conference, you may have no choice. This may be the only opportunity UM gets to be “invited” to a true Division I conference.

As you can see, there are no easy answers - and it is very, very complicated. These points and many others will be presented --- and have been closely reviewed and monitored by our national consultants --- who do these independent studies for schools for a living. Other responsible schools are doing the same, as are conferences. They give you the most accurate, up-to-date information available.

Finally, I will end this long message with an interesting observation by the consultants.

In asking faculty and deans who are their “peers,” they mentioned schools such as Idaho, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Nevada, Wyoming, Colorado and Colorado State. The consultants asked why no Big Sky schools - with the exception of Montana State for “tied in” reasons,” the faculty responded they do not see the Idaho States, Eastern Washingtons, Northern Colorados, etc., as “peer academic institutions.” Au contraire, the consultants’ studies show: “You are who you hang out with.” This is true across the board in life --- and here as well. Thus, this is extremely important to consider as well as we move forward.

Right now, we have a heavy saturation of Montana students attending UM (1,500 more Montana residents now attend UM than MSU - hard to believe… a complete turn-around from 10-15 years ago). But, census reports show the numbers of Montana high school graduates spiraling downward rapidly. Each Montana student costs UM about $2,300… a loss-leader for us in the business world. Thus, they need higher tuition being paid by out-of-state students to make up the difference. That out-of-state market is becoming increasingly competitive… and national exposure from an athletic program can help open the door to those out-of-state students who might consider coming here. This, too, has to be considered in any decision making…. A vision for future enrollment.

I have a motto: “Don’t make decisions based on ego or emotion. Base them on fact and figures.” That will be no different here. Right now, our emotions are high… we want what we had… We like being at the top and play for championships bigger than the Big Sky Conference - but we have to define “at the top of what?” We have great regional/state-wide recognition, but not much nationally. Look at the direction Boise State is taking. The consultants believe Montana could be the next Boise State - not the next Idaho. Actually, Idaho may now be in a better financial situation than we do - and their college is growing nationally.

Today is a new day. It is NOT business as usual - particularly in the area of intercollegiate athletics at the NCAA Division I level… where budgets range from $8 million annually to Texas and Ohio State at $120 million.

I’m sure you see now why this will be such a difficult decision by President Engstrom - and one that will have to be made in the very near future. We will feed him all the latest information, but ultimately, it will be his decision --- and will have to be supported by the Board of Regents. Wish it were easier, but it isn’t. At least UM has options --- others are only followers in all of these discussions. We’re in a good place… and that separates us both academically and athletically from the others.

Keep the faith …. And GO GRIZ!!!!

Jim O'Day
Director of Athletics
The University of Montana
Phone: 406.243.5348
 
Very interesting letter from the University of Montana AD discussing the needs of his school as well as the current state of the FCS.

I'm not sure if it was ever meant to be public, though...

The problem isn't a playoff, though, it's the fact that not many people care about their level of football. A playoff at the top level would generate a staggering amount of revenue for everyone in I-A and even more for the "marquee" teams who would be in it most years.
 
The problem isn't a playoff, though, it's the fact that not many people care about their level of football. A playoff at the top level would generate a staggering amount of revenue for everyone in I-A and even more for the "marquee" teams who would be in it most years.

Yeah, but the problem is you would have to get every participating team to agree to revenue sharing. And that just isn't going to happen. (I'm looking at you Big12). This is one area where the SEC did things right by following an NFL style revenue sharing model. If you don't have this type of system, then the lesser teams not in the playoffs get screwed. And I really don't see teams like Texas and Oklahoma giving up their current arrangement for something like that.
 
Yeah, but the problem is you would have to get every participating team to agree to revenue sharing. And that just isn't going to happen. (I'm looking at you Big12). This is one area where the SEC did things right by following an NFL style revenue sharing model. If you don't have this type of system, then the lesser teams not in the playoffs get screwed. And I really don't see teams like Texas and Oklahoma giving up their current arrangement for something like that.

Yeah it is sad. UT got a huge chunk of the pie of money.

As for bowl games they cut up the money off each bowl game 13 ways. The team going gets 2/13s
 
Yeah it is sad. UT got a huge chunk of the pie of money.

As for bowl games they cut up the money off each bowl game 13 ways. The team going gets 2/13s

Blackmail: It works. (At least in the Big10, err12??)

More proof that Les Miles is either the luckiest guy in college football or an evil coaching genius. (Though I am still not counting out voodoo) This is from Pat Forde's column on espn.com.

Feel free to attempt this at home: Get down on one knee, take a football and toss it blindly over your head. See how many times, out of 10, you can get the thing to bounce up as perfectly as it did Saturday night for holder Derek Helton (3). His errant fake-field-goal lateral somehow caromed to kicker Josh Jasper (4) in stride, on his way to one of the more shocking first downs of 2010. Four plays later, LSU scored the winning touchdown to beat Florida 33-29.

So Miles got that deal-with-the-devil bounce to make that play work. But it gets even more Leslike when you consider this: According to Louisiana media reports, neither Helton nor Jasper was in the huddle when Miles called the fake -- they were practicing kicking and holding. And neither knew the fake was on until they were back on the field.

Jasper said special teams coordinator Joe Robinson "waved me down and told me." Jasper then relayed the call to Helton, whose response was, "Really?"
 
Yeah, but the problem is you would have to get every participating team to agree to revenue sharing. And that just isn't going to happen. (I'm looking at you Big12). This is one area where the SEC did things right by following an NFL style revenue sharing model. If you don't have this type of system, then the lesser teams not in the playoffs get screwed. And I really don't see teams like Texas and Oklahoma giving up their current arrangement for something like that.

The NCAA runs the basketball tournament (and every other sport's tourney, too, I believe) and that works pretty well. Football could be set up the same way and would make boatloads. You don't have to worry about Big 12-style revenue sharing because TV contracts and NCAA tournament money are different animals.
 
The NCAA runs the basketball tournament (and every other sport's tourney, too, I believe) and that works pretty well. Football could be set up the same way and would make boatloads. You don't have to worry about Big 12-style revenue sharing because TV contracts and NCAA tournament money are different animals.

I was a bit unclear on that one. The big problem would be getting said conferences to agree to a system like that, especially in a setup like the Big 12. It would have to generate a LOT of money in order for Texas, for example, to bring in more money than they do under the current system. Of course, I did read an article recently that basically said schools don't make that much money even from BCS games, so maybe they would agree to a playoff.
 
Pretty interesting story Confessions of a Sports Agent from SI

I will never forget the first time I paid a player.
There are moments you will always remember, like your first kiss or your first home run or the day you met your wife. For me, the first time I broke an NCAA rule to try to land a client is just as indelible.

And not sure if this has been posted yet or not:
Boise State Projected as BCS #1

Six weeks into the college football season and one week before the first Bowl Championship Series standings are released, there are 13 unbeaten teams in all three polls.

So who would be the BCS' No. 1 if the standings came out today? Would it be consensus No. 1 Ohio State, the top team in The Associated Press, USA Today and Harris polls? Or maybe fellow unbeaten Oregon, ranked No. 2 and earning first-place votes in all three polls?

According to the projection of ESPN's Brad Edwards, it's consensus No. 3 Boise State.
 
I was a bit unclear on that one. The big problem would be getting said conferences to agree to a system like that, especially in a setup like the Big 12. It would have to generate a LOT of money in order for Texas, for example, to bring in more money than they do under the current system. Of course, I did read an article recently that basically said schools don't make that much money even from BCS games, so maybe they would agree to a playoff.

The system is already there for every other sport. Most schools lose money on bowl games, anyway, so it's not like they're raking in the dough because of the BCS (as previously mentioned, Florida pocketed a measly $47,000 for their last national championship).

No, a playoff would be a bonanza for the schools. Title IX would be an afterthought (no more cutting programs like Cal just did to baseball) because every school would be realizing their true financial potential—or riding the coattails of their brethren's potential—without the need for the whore-mongering bowl "non-profits" pocketing all the cash.
 
Here's a disturbing nugget for Boise State fans wanting Nevada to go unbeaten up until our game on November 26...

Nevada is playing at Hawaii on Saturday. The Wolfpack hasn't won at Hawaii since.........1948!! :eek:

Those scumbags better not lose! They're the only ones that are giving the tail end of our season any weight at all!
 
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