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'2010 Mac Pro: Speculation and whisperings, it's gonna be magical'
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No word on the 2010 Mac Pro?? WTF Apple??
What are you reacting to? Was there supposed to be an announcenment today?
I think it's another Tuesday without a new Mac Pro thing. I would have been surprised if Apple did any releases on this Tuesday because of the US holiday yesterday. I don't see any mentions of new products at the All Things Digital conference which is tomorrow. I say wait until WWDC.
For your usage, the real difference between the iMac and MP, is the upgradability (PCIe slots, HDD bays, optical bays,...) + NO monitor vs. an AIO with a 27" screen that's difficult to upgrade (RAM is possible, but drives, though possible internally, will void the warranty).
As per Logic Studio, add enough RAM and an SSD (would load your libraries faster than mechanical = very noticeable).
SSD would be limited via FW800 and worse on USB, so external enclosure methods are out with an iMac, so it would have to be done internally (eSATA would suffice, but alas, doesn't exist in Apple's offerings at all).
I suspect it's the fact that today is another Tuesday, and nothing's happened with the MP's.
EDIT: ValSalva beat me to it, as I took a bit longer to hit the Submit button.
Yes, and all he was admittedly doing is speculating just like the rest of us. No real "intel" (no pun intended) of any sort.
This is pretty much what I was reacting to, that and another Tuesday has passed.
I still have hope for next week though!
I'm curious as to why Jobs is giving the keynote, after the whole lost iPhone debacle you'd be forgiven for thinking he'd keep his head down, surely that was going to be the boom / magical moment?
So, based on nothing more than that, I'm hoping he has something else to announce, something that isn't iDevice or cloud TV or lala related. That said I can't imagine a pro machine ever being a 'one more thing' again.
In all seriousness I just want some news, even if its a rough time frame like early summer or fall. Early summer I'll wait, fall I'll buy now. People need to make decisions, this is about work, not a toy.
So, based on nothing more than that, I'm hoping he has something else to announce, something that isn't iDevice or cloud TV or lala related. That said I can't imagine a pro machine ever being a 'one more thing' again.
In all seriousness I just want some news, even if its a rough time frame like early summer or fall. Early summer I'll wait, fall I'll buy now. People need to make decisions, this is about work, not a toy.
If only he had a sense of humor. Imagine the Saturday Night Live style skit that they could concoct about this during the keynote, complete with a set containing a bar and Jason Chen with a bag of parts.
Remember that new server farm they have gotten?
MobileMe is probably going to be free and a good alternative to anything Google.
He could announce the new Final Cut Studio and many other things more interesting than the iPhone.
Though purely opinion, I'm not sure his ego would allow him to sit it out if there's no other issues preventing him from taking the stage (i.e. health related).
Unfortunately, unlike the rest of the enterprise system providers, Apple doesn't have a history of issuing information prior to release for planning purposes (save of course, the typical formal announcement, followed at some not too distant release date, which is technically prior to release).
Blizzard will also not be including the ability to play over LAN in starcraft II.
This is to the great inconvenience of anyone who bought the game legitimately.
This is entirely to make sure that anyone playing multiplayer is playing it through their servers and has bought a copy of the game.
Blizzard are full of it. Ever since they made WoW they went from being the apple of computer games to being the Dell.
geekbench 6 core
Not sure exactley if this could be a new mac pro prototype or what, but its worth looking at to assess the massive potential of a 12 core machine:
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/238141
Not sure exactley if this could be a new mac pro prototype or what, but its worth looking at to assess the massive potential of a 12 core machine:
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/238141
For starters the processor ID is for the Six-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2425 H.
And lastly, that server contains 16 Exabytes of RAM!
It has absolutely nothing to do with the next Mac Pro.
I won't dispute the expandability angle, but an SSD in a FW800 enclosure actually works very well on a 27" iMac. I tried it out on my 1st-gen Mac Pro before going with the iMac, and it worked fine. I do a SuperDuper backup to a ~50GB partition on the internal drive every afternoon, just to be safe, but I've been very pleased with performance over the last 3 months.
Startup times are much longer than with an internal SSD, but if used for the OS and Applications, the lack of latency and seek time still gives noticeably better performance than an internal platter-based HD. The OS and Applications don't really demand much in the way of sustained transfer rate, so the difference isn't nearly as dramatic as you'd imagine.
I do not believe you for a second. I'll wait until someone puts your claims to an end with some statistical data.
Edit: Ah hell, found it myself:
Firewire 800: 100MB/sec
And Sata II of course goes 3 megabit/sec
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
What?!?!?
FW800 is 100MB/s.
SATA/eSATA can handle 270MB/s real world (375MB/s theoretical limit)
Now consider the faster SSD's can sustain ~250MB/s (Intel's 80GB and 160GB G2 series). There's no way FW800 can handle that. It's a technical impossibility.
For random access performance, an SSD would fare well enough on FW800, as that's more likely to hover in the 60MB/s or so range (value from 160GB Intel). But but not sustained transfer rates.
If the SSD you have works fine on FW800 under sustained conditions, it's a slower model (i.e. sustained reads in the 100 - 110MB/s range at most, and you can actually throttle a bit with this).
See above.