IgnatiusTheKing
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My jaw is only 25% glass, so I think I've got a decent chance against your portly lady friend.
I always wear my crown.
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2011-2012 College Football Thread
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My jaw is only 25% glass, so I think I've got a decent chance against your portly lady friend.
I always wear my crown.
iJohnHenry
macrumors P6
I believe you. 😉
Girls, girls, ..... please, decorum if you would.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
I already said I did not agree with it but did show why it was happening. When the announcers said something about it then that explains the students.
So I am classless because I see the reason why the booed? I did not agree with the booing at all and announcer day "I am sorry" does not change the fact that they pointed out to red flag before hand so that explains the students.
echeck
macrumors 68000
So Air Force turned down the advances of the Big 12! Can you believe it?? A school actually did what's best for their...ready for it...student athletes!! 😱
The AD said they would never be able to recruit against the likes of OU and Texas, so it would be foolish to join the league. Said he'd love the money, but it's just not a good fit for his cadets.
Amazing.
The AD said they would never be able to recruit against the likes of OU and Texas, so it would be foolish to join the league. Said he'd love the money, but it's just not a good fit for his cadets.
Amazing.
IgnatiusTheKing
macrumors 68040
Turning down the Big 12 was more about what's good for the school and the program than what's good for th cadets. Moving to the Big East will be terrible for the students because of the increased travel time, etc.
Getting slaughtered week-in, week-out by the top Big 12 teams is far worse for the program than it is for any individual student.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
Providing the big 12 does not completely break up I expect TCU to join them. It puts tcu with in 5 hour bus ride of 5 of it opponents. Big 12 still needs to get back to 12 schools.
dukebound85
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benhollberg
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Rodimus Prime
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echeck
macrumors 68000
You're right, but athletes want to win. They're not out there because they've got nothing better to do on a Saturday. How fun would it be to get physically beat to hell every Saturday and have nothing more to show for it than a bunch of L's and an upgraded stadium?
So, yes, they are looking out for their program AND their student-athletes in that they're not using them as a punching bag just to go after a giant pile of money.
IgnatiusTheKing
macrumors 68040
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet. Unbelievable that the Boston College AD would basically come out and say that ESPN orchestrated the ACC's raid of the Big East.
There's not a bigger bad guy in sports right now than the ESPN Cartel.
I think you're right and wrong. Clearly, every kid who plays college football wants to play on a team that wins, but let's think about this for a second. The notion that Air Force is ever recruiting against huge college programs (be it OU, UT, LSU, Bama, USC, ND) or even smaller, successful ones (TCU, Boise, etc) is ludicrous.
The service academies are looking for something entirely different than any of those schools. Utterly, completely different. They've also got to sell kids on the notion of committing to serve for six years after they graduate while every other college program is selling kids on the chance to play in the NFL when they're done.
Air Force turned down the Big 12 because it wasn't a good fit and because of the chance to be in the same conference (Big East) as Army and Navy. Any benefit to the student-athlete is purely coincidence and will most likely be offset by the traveling difficulties and expenses associated with being a Mountain Timezone program in an Eastern Timezone league.
There's not a bigger bad guy in sports right now than the ESPN Cartel.
I think you're right and wrong. Clearly, every kid who plays college football wants to play on a team that wins, but let's think about this for a second. The notion that Air Force is ever recruiting against huge college programs (be it OU, UT, LSU, Bama, USC, ND) or even smaller, successful ones (TCU, Boise, etc) is ludicrous.
The service academies are looking for something entirely different than any of those schools. Utterly, completely different. They've also got to sell kids on the notion of committing to serve for six years after they graduate while every other college program is selling kids on the chance to play in the NFL when they're done.
Air Force turned down the Big 12 because it wasn't a good fit and because of the chance to be in the same conference (Big East) as Army and Navy. Any benefit to the student-athlete is purely coincidence and will most likely be offset by the traveling difficulties and expenses associated with being a Mountain Timezone program in an Eastern Timezone league.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
I would not put it past espn. Espn is a big part of the reason the big 12 is falling apart.
Tomorrow
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Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
That was for round 2 but not for round 1
For round 1 (Nebraska and CO) that blame lays UT and OU demanding the lion share of the money. I am glad at least this time OU is putting its foot down saying equal share of the money for everyone. Personally I feel UT should be required to give up its own network and give it to the confrence.
steve2112
macrumors 68040
Yeah, Tom Osborne was a very vocal opponent of the uneven split, as well as moving B12 HQ to Texas. He predicted early on that Texas and OU would end up running the show, and he was right.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 🙄
This is a sad case. Garcia had loads of talent, but never lived up to his potential. A friend of mine used to say about Ryan Leaf "He was a great QB from the neck down". I think that applies here.
MacDawg
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Here's the link
Positive tests for alcohol and marijuana
Somebody should have reminded Garcia you can only do those things when you are producing
Positive tests for alcohol and marijuana
Somebody should have reminded Garcia you can only do those things when you are producing
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echeck
macrumors 68000
This is such a terrible idea. And the notion actually seems to be GAINING traction! Unreal. Granted it's no worse than going to Hawaii, but that was once every other year, not six times EVERY year.
I think we have a pretty good fan base. We had great showings at the Va Tech and Georgia games, but those are special occasions. Our fans just don't have the money to travel like that multiple times per year.
And to be stuck in the Orange Bowl?
Terrible idea.
IgnatiusTheKing
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I think I read that it's the Boise AD that's pursuing it, right? Does the general fan base hate the idea or is the idea of getting into an AQ conference too tantalizing for most (though obviously not you)?
Also, the Big East champ typically plays the Big 12 champ in the Fiesta Bowl. You guys feel right at home there...
echeck
macrumors 68000
You're right. I was getting mixed up with the ACC with the Orange Bowl. Okay, so playing in the Fiesta Bowl would be okay..
But it's still a terrible idea. As far as general attitude goes, I'm not sure. My buddies and I all think it's a terrible idea, and I'm sure there are many more out there that feel the same. But overall I wouldn be surprised if people don't care what league, as long as it's an AQ league.
Moving to the MWC has done nothing for us. It's not even WAC 2.0, it's just the WAC. It doesn't even help our national perception because everyone knows the only good teams are gone. So here's Boise State, king of the little schools again. The same old arguments will apply. Schedule strength, etc..
Screw the Big East, and screw the Mountain West. Give me back the WAC and ESPN.
If the Big 12 or PAC 12 ever come calling then it would be worth moving, but until then, we need to stay where we are and just be happy with a BCS game every other year or so.
steve2112
macrumors 68040
Yeah, Boise moving to the Big East doesn't make much sense. I know they are tired of playing the BCS waiting game and would love to be in an AQ conference, but this seems like a desperate move. There are no rivalries and travel costs have to be insane. It's a long way from Boise to say, Morgantown, WV. Last year, one of our beat writers did a breakdown of our Gator Bowl payout vs. expenses, and we barely broke even. Granted, a lot of it was due to coaching staff bonuses and such, but travel was huge, and that was for a fairly short trip. Moving 100+ players, plus coaching staff, equipment, etc, gets a bit costly. Then there is the physical and mental fatigue of a cross-country trip.
As soon as I read that, I said to myself..."I bet MacDawg has something to say about that!" So I signed on, and sure enough...
Why would they still cover it up? Auburn hardly has a great record this year and currently has no reason for anyone to be "protecting" them. I could see the speculation last year because they were blowing away everyone and all eyes were on them and Cam. But this year? Cam's not even there, and their performance has been mediocre at best. There's never been any proof other than a he-said, he-said kind of thing. That's not evidence, that's speculation. I hate to say it, but it might just be time to let this one go.
steve2112
macrumors 68040
I don't know if the NCAA is covering up or if they are just that incompetent. I suspect it's the latter, but they do have reasons for covering up things. A major finding against Auburn coming in the wake of the problems at USC, Ohio State, and Miami would make them and the sport look even worse. It would mean another vacated BCS title, possibly a vacated Heisman, etc.
Personally, I just think it means Auburn hid the money trail very well, and the NCAA was too incompetent to find it.