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Hamilton should be too, looks like he suddenly swerved/jinked first, then Maldonado returned the favour.

<edit> Unbelievable bias from the BBC team, particularly Eddie Jordan, especially when first showing the replay to him, he was just to start ranting about Maldonado's move, and yup... that's right Eddie, Lewis jinked first didn't he.

So they are Bias just because one person has a different view from your very predicatable dislike for Hamilton. :rolleyes:
 
Remeber Schumacher did that, but that was a long time ago, and not quite the same situation.

Alonso did something similar in practice in Hungary a few years back too.

A GT driver did a similar thing at Silverstone a few months back, and had his licence revoked.

This was the incident. It's like Cole Trickle in Days Of Thunder. :p

So they are Bias just because one person has a different view from your very predicatable dislike for Hamilton. :rolleyes:

Did you read what I said? Were you listening to the BBC commentary? Did you here what Eddie Jordan said when he first saw the replay?

Predictable dislike in what way? I've said many times that Hamilton is a brilliant driver, probably the fastest out there. And that I'd love to see him in a Ferrari.

That said, he's extremely petulant, a liar and a cheat. And in this instance, he jinked first. It's plainly obviously from the head on view.

<edit> It'll be interesting to see what punishments they do actually hand out though, impeding Lewis on his hot lap, and of course for causing the collision, it's difficult to see how he'll be racing tomorrow, or even at the next race or two. :p

As for Lewis, Alonso was given a 2 second penalty for a similar (albeit more drastic swerve) in Hungary in 2006.
 
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Alonso did something similar in practice in Hungary a few years back too.

A GT driver did a similar thing at Silverstone a few months back, and had his licence revoked.

This was the incident. It's like Cole Trickle in Days Of Thunder. :p



Did you read what I said? Were you listening to the BBC commentary? Did you here what Eddie Jordan said when he first saw the replay?

Predictable dislike in what way? I've said many times that Hamilton is a brilliant driver, probably the fastest out there. And that I'd love to see him in a Ferrari.

That said, he's extremely petulant, a liar and a cheat. And in this instance, he jinked first. It's plainly obviously from the head on view.

<edit> It'll be interesting to see what punishments they do actually hand out though, impeding Lewis on his hot lap, and of course for causing the collision, it's difficult to see how he'll be racing tomorrow, or even at the next race or two. :p

As for Lewis, Alonso was given a 2 second penalty for a similar (albeit more drastic swerve) in Hungary in 2006.

Still his opinion at the time, which is different from yours, and your dislike is still predictable and expected.

It was a tiny jink, more likely because Hamilton did not know the precise location of the other driver, it is quite common in F1
 
Still his opinion at the time, which is different from yours

And I have no problem with that, but I stand by my comments that they were bias, in that they completed ignored the fact that Hamilton appeared to make the initial swerve, instead conveniently ignoring this so he could continue his berating of Maldonado.


and your dislike is still predictable and expected.

Again, how so?

it is quite common in F1

And it appeared quite deliberate.

To clarify my opinion (because I have a feeling I'm going to have to), I think they were both being unprofessional and more than a little childish. I don't think you can excuse the actions of either of them to be perfectly honest.


<Edit>Pastor Maldonado penalised, Lewis Hamilton reprimanded. Surprisingly light punishment for Maldonado. :eek:

Autosport said:
Maldonado was adjudged to have been more at fault in the incident and will be moved back from 16th to 21st on the grid.

Hamilton was given a reprimand but receives no penalty. The stewards said both drivers were guilty of "causing a collision" and were punished under article 16.1 of the regulations.

Seems like a fair assessment of the incident.
 
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Great race - good drives by a number of the drivers (Button, Schumi), BUT for those watching BBC's coverage ...

Maldonado and his post race interview - WTF?! Not a grand Prix driver I'd like to meet down a dark alley.:eek:
 
Great race - good drives by a number of the drivers (Button, Schumi), BUT for those watching BBC's coverage ...

Button and Schumi were both brilliant today, as much as it pains me to say, Jenson's driving really well this year, he doesn't have the outright pace of Lewis, and he knows it, but his racing really has been for the most part top notch.

Silly mistake by Hamilton cost him a podium, I suspect he would've been looking at a penalty had he taken Kobayashi out, don't quite know WTF Whitmarsh was watching though. :confused: :rolleyes:

Vettel's driving superbly at the moment though isn't he. :eek:

Not a grand Prix driver I'd like to meet down a dark alley.:eek:

For sure. :D
 
Another good race by Vettel, clean win. Button had the best drive of the day, redemption for his poor qualifying performance. Surprised no rain at any time during the race, unusual for Spa.
 
What did he say?

It wasn't what he said as such, more just his generally menacing demeanour. :eek: :p

Not surprised Hamilton didn't take up DC's suggestion that he and Maldonado sort it out like men at the back of the garage afterwards. :p

Props to Hamilton for admitting fault for the incident with Kobayashi. *Thumbs Up*
 
It surprised me when I read it on his twitter account. Never thought Lewis would publicly do this.
 
It wasn't what he said as such, more just his generally menacing demeanour. :eek: :p

With his braces and gruff mannerisms, he reminds me of someone...

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i'd love to see one track to be open again for formula 1 in its full beauty
the old Nürburgring like it was pre 1973

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...67.svg/512px-Circuit_Nürburgring-1967.svg.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6aNnZ4q80s

or at least the pre 1982 version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2_vu4Y1oek&NR=1

because on the Nürburgring the drivers skills had been the limit and even a underpowered car had a good chance

today formula 1 got a bit boring really , and bring back the small teams , not only those with a billion $ budget

i'm as often as i can there to ride my motorcycle on the Nordschleife (Kawasaki GPZ 750 turbo from 1985 nearly stock ..... )
 
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i'd love to see one track to be open again for formula 1 in its full beauty
the old Nürburgring like it was pre 1968

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Will never happen. Too dangerous and out of date for modern Formula 1 cars.

Also, that track is so long it's really better suited for endurance racing, even though it was used for F1 in the past. You would only see about 15 laps on it for a F1 race.
 
i'd love to see one track to be open again for formula 1 in its full beauty
the old Nürburgring like it was pre 1973

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...67.svg/512px-Circuit_Nürburgring-1967.svg.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6aNnZ4q80s

or at least the pre 1982 version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2_vu4Y1oek&NR=1

because on the Nürburgring the drivers skills had been the limit and even a underpowered car had a good chance

today formula 1 got a bit boring really , and bring back the small teams , not only those with a billion $ budget

i'm as often as i can there to ride my motorcycle on the Nordschleife

If you are in the UK watch this (beware, some scenes are pretty brutal).

It shows why tracks like the old Nürburgring will never return to Formula 1.
 
who got the idea that race driving is without risk , after all those formula 1 cars are a lot safer today ,carbon fiber monocoques, for god sake they even have seatbelts today , the driver today earn millions a year so they should take some risk to deserve that money
for me the risk on the Nürburgring Nordschleife with the motorcycle is part of the fun and i can calculate it , ok you need to take care when overtaking some spoiled kids driving around with daddy's Porsche or other fast cars driving like they are on a sightseeing tour blocking the ideal line and i'm not the fastest with my best time 8:36 min for a round
i'm also every year on the isle of man which makes even more fun through villages on public roads without getting a speeding ticket...see you on Mad Sunday :D

No Risk No Fun
 
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who got the idea that race driving is without risk

I don't think anyone would reasonably suggest that it is or should be. Don't forget, whilst it's been some 17 years since the last fatality in F1, it's nothing other than incredible luck that that we didn't lose a 7x World Champion last season or another Brazilian only a coupe of years before that.
 
There is less risk partially because of better technology and organisation.

What of past fatalities that were not due to driver error pushing the limit, but design flaws or incompetance?

Why take unnecessary risk when technology such as fire retardent overall, proper crash helmets and crumple zones are easily availible?


Do you ride motorbike without crash helmet, leathers, high quality brakes?
 
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