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2011 Mac Book Pro 13" - predictions?

gianly1985 said:
But you EOL-swearers can go on swearing over leaked (or not) powerpoint slides like they meant anything.
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They mean more than your rants. You don't have anything to back up your statement that Intel will deliver C2Ds as long as Apple wants but we have proofs to show that C2Ds will be EOLed. Besides, there is the fact that Apple can't keep using C2Ds forever. Sooner than later they have to use something else, that's a fact.
 
Hellhammer said:
They mean more than your rants. You don't have anything to back up your statement that Intel will deliver C2Ds as long as Apple wants but we have proofs to show that C2Ds will be EOLed.
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According to those roadmaps for example SL9300, SL9400 and SL9600 are being EOLed as we're speaking (q4 2010). Guess MBAs will run on unicorns for the months till the next update.
I don't have to back up my statement that much because it's more a "don't be 100% sure of the opposite" statement. I'm just saying "don't be so sure about it". In rant sauce 'cause that's how I write. But no real rant/harshness intended.
Besides, there is the fact that Apple can't keep using C2Ds forever. Sooner than later they have to use something else, that's a fact.
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Yep, sooner...or later. I hope (as a wannabe 13"-mbp owner) I won't end up in a "waiting for Ivy Bridge" thread...
 
gianly1985 said:
According to those roadmaps for example SL9300, SL9400 and SL9600 are being EOLed as we're speaking (q4 2010). Guess MBAs will run on unicorns for the months till the next update.
I don't have to back up my statement that much because it's more a "don't be 100% sure of the opposite" statement. I'm just saying "don't be so sure about it". In rant sauce 'cause that's how I write. But no real rant/harshness intended.

Yep, sooner...or later. I hope (as a wannabe 13"-mbp owner) I won't end up in a "waiting for Ivy Bridge" thread...
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Haswell 2013+ will be the big leap forward technologically speaking. Let's get that thread started!
 
gianly1985 said:
According to those roadmaps for example SL9300, SL9400 and SL9600 are being EOLed as we're speaking (q4 2010). Guess MBAs will run on unicorns for the months till the next update.
I don't have to back up my statement that much because it's more a "don't be 100% sure of the opposite" statement. I'm just saying "don't be so sure about it". In rant sauce 'cause that's how I write. But no real rant/harshness intended.
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Well, according to CPU-World (thanks to deeddawg who found that), Intel will be shipping C2Ds until October 14, 2011. It's indeed possible that Apple will use them in next gen as well but then they have to bring on something else. Come on, Apple has used similar CPUs in MBPs since 2006, something has to change. Soon.
 
gianly1985 said:
The epicness of the "waiting for arrandale" thread(s) will never be matched again.
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Back then I was already waiting for Haswell. :)

I bought a 2010 Mac Pro. My next Mac Pro will be a Haswell machine in 2013 or whenever they hit the market.
 
Hellhammer said:
Well, according to CPU-World (thanks to deeddawg who found that), Intel will be shipping C2Ds until October 14, 2011.
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Thanks for the citation, I appreciate it.

Digging around a little more, here's another item: http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2010/...aunch_dates_of_desktop_Sandy_Bridge_CPUs.html

No idea if this is a comprehensive list of what will be available, but the timing of the 35W TDP Core i3 models in late February should be good fodder for discussion.
 
Hellhammer said:
Well, according to CPU-World (thanks to deeddawg who found that), Intel will be shipping C2Ds until October 14, 2011. It's indeed possible that Apple will use them in next gen as well but then they have to bring on something else. Come on, Apple has used similar CPUs in MBPs since 2006, something has to change. Soon.
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Win :)
Shippings till october 2011.
happy new penryn year to everybody :)
(sadly)
Now please spread the word and debunk the "EOLed C2Ds" argument all over the web.
 
articcine said:
Apple will do a huge mistake by still using the C2Ds... It needs an upgrade, i3 would be appropriate.
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I wouldn't say it will be a huge mistake, because Apple will still sell millions of them. It just sucks for us "nerds" that actually know what the hell is going on.
 
I am not saying that I am for it, nor that I believe it is coming, but an AMD solution is always a possibility. :eek:
 
Last year they gave us the 320m to close an eye on the C2Ds.

This year I want SSD sticks (a là MBA) for the boot disk (beside the regular HDD bay, in order to avoid the capacity step backward hellhammer pointed out in the other thread) and I'll be "glad" to close the other eye, even as a nerd who knows what's going on.

Sucks to be stuck with 2008 cpus.
But 320m vs CPU update, i want 320m.
And SSD vs CPU update, CPU update still loses. Let's just hope apple finds a way to include both.
 
gianly1985 said:
Last year they gave us the 320m to close an eye on the C2Ds.

This year I want SSD sticks (a là MBA) for the boot disk (beside the regular HDD bay, in order to avoid the capacity step backward hellhammer pointed out in the other thread) and I'll be "glad" to close the other eye, even as a nerd who knows what's going on.

Sucks to be stuck with 2008 cpus.
But 320m vs CPU update, i want 320m.
And SSD vs CPU update, CPU update still loses. Let's just hope apple finds a way to include both.
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I presently have an Intel SSD in my 13" MacBook Pro. In the next model I want a Sandy Bridge CPU, decent graphics, larger battery, SSD standard (or the mixed solution you suggest), and for this I am willing to sacrifice the internal optical drive. I have not cared about those since Apple decided to avoid Blu-ray.
 
gianly1985 said:
Last year they gave us the 320m to close an eye on the C2Ds.

This year I want SSD sticks (a là MBA) for the boot disk (beside the regular HDD bay, in order to avoid the capacity step backward hellhammer pointed out in the other thread) and I'll be "glad" to close the other eye, even as a nerd who knows what's going on.

Sucks to be stuck with 2008 cpus.
But 320m vs CPU update, i want 320m.
And SSD vs CPU update, CPU update still loses. Let's just hope apple finds a way to include both.
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I completely agree with you here. CPU is NOT the most important part of a laptop. The 2.4 C2D is actually great for many duties. The biggest complaint about MBP13s right now is the lack of GPU power for gaming and videos (editing and watching). That was 'sort-of' addressed with the 320M. I don't hear that many complaints about processing.
 
true, i think a lot of people could live with a C2D in the next 13 inch model if they give us a better GPU. On the other hand i dont think that they are going to do that, because by removing the ODD they could give us more GPU power plus a newer CPU, but who know's if they will:confused::D
 
IMO, I think Apple is going to make the move to Sandy Bridge.

In order to do that they are going to add a discrete card or just swallow the poor IGP. If they add a discrete card the MBP 13 may lose its disc drive.
 
Faster CPU means crap without decent GPU. Put the fastest C2D with newest Nvidia card then, but hell with Intel graphics card.
 
If...

Apple announced an i3 13-inch MBP with Sandy-Bridge graphics today, I would run, not walk, to buy a 2010 MBP on clearance. Why? With all due respect to Anand LAl Shimpi and his early benchmarks, Intel has a terrible record with 3D performance in particular and graphics performance in general. Even if framerates are there, there is bound to be tearing, clipping, and other distracting artifacts. Their *nix drivers are even worse - just ask anyone who has tried to get Flash working usably with an Intel GPU under Linux (or any other non-Windows OS). Heck; my wife can't even play Farmville full-screen with her Intel GPU, let alone a 3D game. Compared with the major GPU manufacturers, Intel issues driver refreshes approximately never (basically when the hardware changes - maybe once in-between). Besides, i3 + Intel IGP is $300 netbook territory, in terms of hardware.

If they announced an i5 13-inch MBP with Intel-only graphics, I'd wait for some other kool-aid drinkers to buy the thing and benchmark it before jumping in - maybe the i5 would partly make up for the crappy GPU. Meanwhile, I'd hope for enough outcry to force Apple into putting the "pro" back into the 13-inch MBP by offering a refresh with a better GPU.

If they ditch the Optical in favor of a Sandy Bridge + discrete graphics offering, I'm all over it. I can get an external drive for the instances when I need one. Oh, and 1440 X 900, PLEASE!

I have a MBP 15-inch at work and I love it, but the way Apple seems to be headed with the 13-inch (which is the form-factor I really want), I may just stick an SSD in my current (Windows) laptop and call it good.
 
i will be waiting until the day Apple finally gives an AMD as an option

my dream 13inch MBP would be

AMD Phenom II X4 ( quad )
ATi 58xx
256 SSD
8gb RAM

well, some hope wont do any harm :p
 
Twe Foju said:
my dream 13inch MBP would be

AMD Phenom II X4 ( quad )
ATi 58xx
256 SSD
8gb RAM
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I'll take similar specs with Sandy Bridge. Why would you want an AMD processor when they have come up short against Intel chips for years?

Sandy Bridge
ATi 58xx
600GB Intel G3 SSD
8GB or 16GB RAM
 
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tim100 said:
will apple keep all 3 13 inch macbooks in their line up?
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Who knows, probably yes.
They've been shipping 3 13-inchers since fall 2008.
I think the white one is (among the others) kids', teens' and girls' favorite, I don't see it disappearing all at once. And it's a relatively young chassis design (fall 2009), it must be exploited for at least 2 years.
The air was a air and it's still a air. (no fw800, no gigE, no ODD)
The PRO should be PROed up in order to get back to pwning the 13" Air again.
 
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