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2012-2013 NFL Football Thread
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I wonder what would have had happened had Eli faked taking a knee and threw a touchdown pass. Or had they come out of the victory formation to run over the D-Line with a play up the middle - when the D-Line was expecting a kneel down. The unwritten rules go both ways.
There's a reason why 99.9999% of teams in their situation take a knee.
Good thing that game wasn't 5 minutes longer.
I wonder what would have had happened had Eli faked taking a knee and threw a touchdown pass. Or had they come out of the victory formation to run over the D-Line with a play up the middle - when the D-Line was expecting a kneel down. The unwritten rules go both ways.
There's a reason why 99.9999% of teams in their situation take a knee.
Good thing that game wasn't 5 minutes longer.
Regarding the knee that is exactly what I said. It goes both ways.
I wonder what would have had happened had Eli faked taking a knee and threw a touchdown pass. Or had they come out of the victory formation to run over the D-Line with a play up the middle - when the D-Line was expecting a kneel down. The unwritten rules go both ways.
There's a reason why 99.9999% of teams in their situation take a knee.
Good thing that game wasn't 5 minutes longer.
In an interview on the radio today Jerry Jones went on record saying that he thinks the kneel down play is a disservice to the fans and that he had actually been a part of a movement not too long ago trying to adjust the rules to ban it. He said fans pay to see players play, not to see them play it safe and that the game should be played until it's over.
I didn't realize this but the XFL apparently had a rule that the clock didn't move unless a play was run with the intent to get positive yardage. So, basically this eliminated the kneel down because doing so is intentionally trying to move the clock and not trying to advance the ball.
I'm not 100% sure where I come down on this, but I know I didn't like what Marshall Faulk, Deion Sanders, and Michael Irving said about it on NFL Network. They basically said the coach was an idiot for violating the "unwritten" rules of the NFL and that putting someone at risk for injury and jeopardizing their ability to earn an income for their family was disrespectful and down right stupid. I don't like the argument that there are "unwritten" NFL rules that allow for players to not give it their best because they are afraid of injury. The game is played for 60 minutes. If you want to take off a play then that's your business, but don't get upset when the other team or another player doesn't do the same. The lines start getting blurry really quick when you say there are unspoken boundaries that players don't cross because it "could" lead to an injury. To be clear, I'm not talking about dirty play or cheap shots, I'm just talking about going hard and giving it 110% until the whistle blows.
Professional athletes are expected to give it their all on every play at all times. It's like they say in boxing, "protect yourself at all times". I don't remember who, but one of the above three commentators said "if you want to do that in the college then okay, but this is the pro's". My response to that is yeah, it is the pro's and therefore you get paid to do a job, to do it well, and to do it until the game is over. You get paid outrageous amounts of money to play a sport to entertain others. Injury risk is a part of the job requirements and thus a part of why you get paid like you do. To me, their commentary just sounded like crybaby athlete millionaires making a fuss over something that should be an expected part of the game. I love it when Troy Polamalu times the snap count, charges the line, and launches himself over the center in an effort to get the QB or disrupt the play. Does that kind of effort violate "unwritten" rules because it's not the norm and could injure someone? Can he not do that if there's only 30 seconds left on the clock? Bah, take your secret rules and pipe down. I like the coach's aggressiveness.
I understand what you're saying - but was it really aggressiveness? Was he actually trying to win the game? Or was it frustration because his team had coughed up a big lead?
Some of the radio guys here in Houston said that it was on the O-Line as well to recognize what was going to happen. Who knows?
Ironic that it happened at Giants Stadium, because that's where the infamous Herm Edwards touchdown occurred. It's because of plays like that they do the "victory formation". If the team you're playing has 0 time outs, and you've earned the ball back with 5 seconds left, why should you be forced to gain positive yardage? They defense did their job to get there and the offense didn't.
Honestly, after losing a lead and failing to make it happen in their last possession it looked a lot more like frustration and a big ******* you to me.
Well the Giants are over the kneel. 4 offensive starters injured and still beat Cam and his Panthers...
The Giants certainly have some young players who are stepping it up big time. Cam just looked lost out there last night. And, his post game press conference was really tough. He just looked so defeated and broken in spirit.
While I was hoping I was wrong, I said to my friend before the game "This will be over at halftime." And it turned out I was right.
Falcons going on the road to San Diego
Both teams 2-0 with high expectations
Should be a great game
I'd say it is a toss-up with the edge to SD for home field
Both teams 2-0 with high expectations
Should be a great game
I'd say it is a toss-up with the edge to SD for home field
I felt really sorry for him actually. Hopefully the Steve Smith with loyalty will be able to help him get over things like this.
This game I am taking those dirty birds. I hate SD with a passion so I am hoping there is a blow out!
Falcons are playing very well
The defense is a big surprise
Defense is being disruptive and not reactive
Haven't seen this kind of intensity since the old Gritz Blitz days
New OC and DC and both have made a big difference
Get the Panthers at home next week
Need to keep the foot on the gas pedal
The defense is a big surprise
Defense is being disruptive and not reactive
Haven't seen this kind of intensity since the old Gritz Blitz days
New OC and DC and both have made a big difference
Get the Panthers at home next week
Need to keep the foot on the gas pedal
Refs need to be sorted out now.
Glad to see the Ravens and Torrey Smith have a great game. Hopefully it'll be part of a send off fitting for his younger brother, poor kid.
Glad to see the Ravens and Torrey Smith have a great game. Hopefully it'll be part of a send off fitting for his younger brother, poor kid.
The Packers just got jobbed. This is even worse than the refs taking away the Pats momentum yesterday.
Stunned. Can we get the effing refs back now?!!
This is even worse than the refs taking away the Pats momentum yesterday.Stunned. Can we get the effing refs back now?!!
I didn't, because I was hearing the sound of my own voice going "oh my god" over and over.