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Anyone know if you can use a MBP as the cd drive for the new iMac? Like could I burn something to cd via the MBP if the content was on iMac? I could just external drive it over to the laptop first I guess ; but giving clients a disk of master wavs straight off the iMac via the mbp's drive would save a wee while

external super drives cost 40 - 80 bucks. They work exactly like an internal. I got a 44dollar LG and it works fine. i'm using it instead of my internal on my 2008 imac because it's faster for burning and a different region.
 
Looks like the top end 27" refurb iMac (no SSD) dropped $80 today. Was $1869 yesterday, now $1789. I imagine that's as much as it'll drop, at least until 2012 refurb iMacs start appearing, which won't happen until March or April.

Decisions, decisions... New Mac mini is cheaper with USB3 but only up to 16 GB mem and no optical drive. Refurb iMac has no USB3 and costs more, but has optical drive and goes to 32 GB. Decisions... :confused::confused::confused:

Yeah, I noticed after posting that they dropped. The model I'm looking at it is the 3.1GHz i5 for $1599. Was $1649 normally. Not huge savings, but better than nothing I suppose.
 
Anyone know if you can use a MBP as the cd drive for the new iMac? Like could I burn something to cd via the MBP if the content was on iMac? I could just external drive it over to the laptop first I guess ; but giving clients a disk of master wavs straight off the iMac via the mbp's drive would save a wee while

I don't see why not, I rarely use the ODD, so I can't say for sure if it's still on Mountain Lion, but you used to be able to share an ODD from another computer. They started allowing it because of the macbook air's, so that people could use their imacs for the ODD (ironic now that it would be used the other way around with the imac relying on the laptop). Here's the support link...
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5287

That said, if you're going to be doing it with any sort of regularity you might just want to buy an external. I'm actually glad that they dropped the ODD, because even if I bought the 2011, I still would have bought an external blu-ray writer (for ripping blu-rays to itunes and to backup photos on blu-ray discs) and basically would've never used the ODD in the imac resulting in me basically buying something I'd never use.
 
Apple store Austraiia now open

It is now 9:30am in Australia

As I said in my last posting this morning I returned to the store, and as predicted the covered display is now removed and yes yes as I predicted IMac Boxes and display stand cards

No actual machines I was told for a week

but a cut away model of the new IMac on display

For all you non belivers , eat your words
 
It is now 9:30am in Australia

As I said in my last posting this morning I returned to the store, and as predicted the covered display is now removed and yes yes as I predicted IMac Boxes and display stand cards

No actual machines I was told for a week

but a cut away model of the new IMac on display

For all you non belivers , eat your words

Pictures please.
 
I agree, first gen could be... Interesting. Ive waited so long for this and now we know what we are actually getting and when which is win win for me. Size wise I only want a 21, but specs and money wise the 27 is the must have. May as well start this now, will Haswell being smaller and lower powered allow for much more powerfull components in next years iMac? If so I think I'll go into this planning an upgrade next year. That will allow me to get the new iMac spec'd to a nice level but not mental and save the pennies to go mad next year, 2013 iMac dates anyone ;) planning on a 5 year life cycle once settled
 
So now the options are fully known (except for BTO price/spec details).

  1. New iMac 27"
    • Wait until December :mad:
    • No optical drive :( (hey Phil, I'm not living in the past - I use it to import CDs, but if you guys would join the present and sell lossless audio on iTunes, I'd quit buying physical discs)
    • Heat issues??? :confused:
    • Fusion drive??? I'm OCD enough about my computer stuff that I'd constantly worry if it's optimizing as well as if I split things up by hand. :eek: :p
    • EDIT: no Firewire = more adapters for existing external drives :(

  2. Refurb iMac 27"
    • Cheaper :)
    • Get it now/soon :)
    • Optical drive :)
    • Slightly slower :(
    • More expensive/difficult to get flash+HD? :(

  3. New Mac mini
    • Even cheaper :D
    • Get it now/soon :)
    • No optical drive :(
    • Slower :(
    • Only 16 GB mem :(
I guess I'll have some time to mull it over. If the new iMac had been a strict spec bump the choice would have been clear. Instead, it's muddy. :(:confused:


Maybe the refurb is not too much slower, except the fusion drive aspect. ??

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Well now that it's announced, how long till current refurbs drop in price so I can buy one?

They already dropped in price.
 
What about the screen ... a slight improvement here :D

Stop being so positive!! ;)

The new screen sounds amazing... After all the whinging about the glossy glare surely we can be grateful for 75% less reflection??

(I will be ordering a maxed out 27" straight away and not giving a monkeys if it is only 10% faster than the old one.)
 
It blows my mind people say stuff like this. Apple's reemergence is owed to design and innovation, not crazy benchmark eclipsing performance. That's what Apple is. A hardware DESIGN company. This is what Steve Jobs built and always envisioned. Pioneering the design, form and function of devices and technology.

Yet when new products are released people (like you) get whiny that they'll under-perform competitors. How is this still a surprise to anyone? If you think the performance is lacking and you don't care about design or size, go buy a competitor's product. Then, in two years when that company tries to cram all of that hardware into a design they ape'd from Apple you can come back here to complain again why Apple isn't pioneering some great performance achievements.

I repeat, they are a hardware DESIGN company. (Although that trend, as James Dyson recently stated with the following, "Apple's success as a technology company is built on hardware. The current fixation with digital is misplaced." is starting to blur.)

Did you honestly expect Apple to refresh the iMac with mind blowing guts?

There's a reason they engrave 'Designed by Apple in California' on products.


To further make your point, Ihaveneverknown, there is also the melding of hardware with very functional software that improves the overall user experience that makes less important to squeak out the latest performance measures.

Nonetheless, at this point, I personally am leaning towards upgrading to the 2011 model Imac, and then maybe five years later will see how upgrading to whatever options are then available.

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The interesting part is that even though the 680 MX is not listed on Nvidia's site yet, if you compare the 675M vs 675MX and the 670M vs 670MX, it seems as though the X is the "super duper" version. Good news.

Check this out

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-675mx/specifications

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-675m/specifications

675MX

GPU Engine Specs:
960 coresCUDA Cores
600 MHzGraphics Clock (MHz)
48.0Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
Memory Specs:
1800Memory Clock
GDDR5Memory Interface
256 bitMemory Interface Width
115.2Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec)

675M

GPU Engine Specs:
384 coresCUDA Cores
620 MHzGraphics Clock (MHz)
39.7 Texture Fill Rate (billion/sec)
Memory Specs:
1500 Memory Clock
GDDR5 Memory Interface 256bit
Memory Interface Width 96.0

The 680MX must be a MONSTER.



Omg, a MONSTER!!!! :D

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Why can't we order now :(:(:(:(

Bc it is not yet available.
 
That new iMac is revolutionary. I can't believe they've managed to pack all that computing power into a machine so thin. I find it so hard to believe that I'm not going to order one because I'm sure there will be the usual 1st gen problems fixed in the 2nd gen refresh. :D


some of those potential 1st gen issues seem to contribute towards causing me personally to lean towards the 2011 model, at this time, anyhow.

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Can't even buy a 2011 now...not until they open up pre-order and put the old ones on clearance...

You can get Refurbished 2011 directly from Apple or from other sources, such as Amazon, besides Apple, directly.

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They mentioned in the keynote that the fusion drive is "almost" as fast as a SSD. Depends on what they mean by "almost". I'm going to hope the 768GB SSD option is around $500-$600, and I'll go with that. Any bulk storage could easily be added via USB 3.

The "almost" was shown specifically with a visualization of a bar (blue), so that visualization made the fusion appear pretty dang close to the ssd (which, to me describes "almost", pretty clearly).

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It should be much more pleasant around here without all the "no 2012 iMac" "desktops are EOL" etc etc :)

There are still certain people who shall remain nameless that will throw a tantrum while waiting to actually be able to buy one.. but I for one find myself much happier than I was a few hours ago.

Mee too. Happier to know specifics, and to be able to ponder over what is known and to make a decision based on those more specifics. Though it is true, there are still several unknowns, but many fewer than there were, yesterday at this same time.
 
I've got a 2009 27" iMac with the i7 CPU. I was planning to sell it to get the latest iMac. I am totally underwhelmed by the new 27" iMac that was announced yesterday. I'm not impressed by the "thinness," or the lack of an optical drive, either, and apparently the only choice of keyboard is "wireless."

Yawn. :(
 
So can someone tell me if im correct in my comparisons between buying a 27" refurb and a new iMac?

Refurb:

-$1599, 3.1GHz i5, 4GB RAM, CD Drive, 1TB HD, USB 2.0 & Firewire 800

New:

-$1799, 2.9GHz i5, 8GB RAM, No CD Drive, 1TB HD, USB 3.0 & no firewire?

Is the processor in the new iMac a more powerful processor or no? The fact that there is no firewire on the new iMac is basically a deal breaker for me. I have audio equipment that runs via firewire and I'm not about to buy new gear.

If this is the case, I'm just going to go refurb as they've already dropped in price.

I would not get caught up on one feature, such as FireWire, being a "deal breaker" bc there are adapters for that kind of thing that pretty much negate that problem.

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No sure. I even hope the december guestimate turns out true for the 27 inch..
It's rather vague.

I believe that Most of the time when they commit to giving an actual date (such as naming a month) they conform with that
 
Stop being so positive!! ;)

The new screen sounds amazing... After all the whinging about the glossy glare surely we can be grateful for 75% less reflection??

(I will be ordering a maxed out 27" straight away and not giving a monkeys if it is only 10% faster than the old one.)

I wasn't interested in upgrading from my white 24" iMac to a new iMac because of the glare. I am very interested now. I just need the money :(

The Fusion Drive sounds great as well. I hope there are manual options for deciding if something is hosted on the SSD or HDD area. I don't use Photoshop Elements as much as some of my other software, but when I do, it needs every bit of speed it can get. I'd like to be able to keep it on the SSD side despite the frequency of use. On the other hand, I have TextEdit open a lot as a copy/paste area when coding, but it has no speed problems, so would be fine on the HDD.
 
Can anyone confirm that the new 27" iMac is to be rolled out in the USA in December and the UK won't see it until January 2013?
 
I've got a 2009 27" iMac with the i7 CPU. I was planning to sell it to get the latest iMac. I am totally underwhelmed by the new 27" iMac that was announced yesterday. I'm not impressed by the "thinness," or the lack of an optical drive, either, and apparently the only choice of keyboard is "wireless."

Yawn. :(

Not to fond of wireless myself to be honest.
Just give me everything wired.. mouse, keyboard, trackpad, controllers...

All these wireless signals buzzing around me.. don't feel comfortable with that thought.
 
I need the 21.5 base model as soon as possible, but november could be the first or the 30th.... does somebody know about? :( :confused:
 
Thanks for the advice. Trouble is between now and December I have some Christmas shopping to do! Wife wants an iPad mini and daughter wants an iPad 4 (or the slightly newer than the last iPad)
I'd rather have gone for the 2012 21" top of the range as I really want the SSD, however if you can't chose that option or upgrade RAM it's a bit limiting. I don't really want just the HDD and I think Fusion sounds risky. If the HDD part fails you lose the SSD part as well. How is that a good idea?
Trouble is the extra £400 for the 27" and optional SSD/external ODD/AppleCare is really gonna hurt! It will end up being £2000 plus which is way beyond my budget.

i feel your pain brother. I too think that the fusion might be risky in terms of its effectiveness. I really wanted a SSD for everything but the 768gb ssd option I think will cost as much as 700-800 pounds as BTO, which is INSANE! Did you ever consider maybe the mac mini you could max it out with an ssd 500gb 16gb ram and quad core i7?

I'd say give your daughter an ipad 2 and say its a 4 she'll prob not know the difference.

OR

If your daughter is in school get an educational discount and buy everything you'll prob save hundreds!
 
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