2012 iMac - next big date?

[jollino]

Yeah, that would be the way to go if I wanted to extend the life of this 2007 computer. But, the display's also not in great shape (mostly evident in the white screens on bootup) and I really do want an updated GPU so I can get back to gaming on it..

Do you have grey spots in the corners? My 2006 20" has one in the lower left, and a small one on the upper right. Not too noticeable unless you have a solid bright thing full screen (since windows normally don't go down there due to the dock, and the spotlight icon being on the other side), but they've been there for years a long time without worsening, and I never understood what caused it. I even tried "massaging" the area as suggested somewhere, but it neither improved nor worsened. Kind of looks like some backlight issue or something.

 

[JohnDory]

Hi! Longtime lurker, first time poster.
Sorry if this allready been up in this thread. Hard to keep up sometimes.

I found these:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161127
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161107

Is this "the real deal"? It's posted today (15 october) and "13,1" is... strange?

EDIT: Ahh! Stupid Haugiz steeling my thunder

Dear Gods of thunder, could someone tell us mere mortals, firstly, what do geekbench marks tell us, and secondly, what do these geekbench marks tell us?

 

[bobright]

Hard to tell, but from the things I checked, it looks plausible. Slightly lower performance than the iMac 13,2 mark from July.

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This is the 13th generation iMac. 13,1 would be the 21.5" and 13,2 would be the 27", assuming they kept the same screen sizes.

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Honestly? This is feeling like a "The Mac Strikes Back" event, with Mini, 13" rMBP, and iMac all featured.. and then a "One More Thing" of iPad Mini.

Not really more like a portable post PC ******** themed event.

Unbelievable.

 

[JayJayAbels]

Dear Gods of thunder, could someone tell us mere mortals, firstly, what do geekbench marks tell us, and secondly, what do these geekbench marks tell us?

Both GB scores appear legit. Only wary of the 21.5" out scoring the 27" by a few points.

 

[forty2j]

Both GB scores appear legit. Only wary of the 21.5" out scoring the 27" by a few points.

Be careful which iMac 13,2 you're looking at. There was a fake one posted with slower speed RAM.

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Do you have grey spots in the corners? My 2006 20" has one in the lower left, and a small one on the upper right. Not too noticeable unless you have a solid bright thing full screen (since windows normally don't go down there due to the dock, and the spotlight icon being on the other side), but they've been there for years a long time without worsening, and I never understood what caused it. I even tried "massaging" the area as suggested somewhere, but it neither improved nor worsened. Kind of looks like some backlight issue or something.

I tried to get a pic but you can't tell the screen problems from the reflections.

But, there's discoloration (gray? yellow? idk) on like a third of the screen (primarily upper center, left edge, and top right corner), and some kind of vertical stripe (looks like image burn in) about 3 inches from the left edge.

 

[iMcLovin]

Like I said 9to5mac likes to spread the news...so the final blow will be the iMac, since that's what everyone is waiting for.

 

[JayJayAbels]

Be careful which iMac 13,2 you're looking at. There was a fake one posted with slower speed RAM.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161127
^ 13,2 = 27" (presumedly) GB Score of 12918

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161107
^ 13,1 = 21" (presumedly) GB Score of 12942

Both were uploaded today, October 15th and in correct succession with the 13,1 first then the 13,2 twenty minutes or so later.

Both have locked processors as well. Intel Core i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz.

 

[signatus]

Only a few hours ahead of Tuesday 16th. Only a few hours and one week ahead of Tuesday 23rd.
C'mon, Mr. Cook, make my day and launch the new iMac tomorrow

 

[emilv]

Looks good, but since I gave up on waiting it doesnt beat my new PC.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1120333

 

[forty2j]

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161127
^ 13,2 = 27" (presumedly) GB Score of 12918

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1161107
^ 13,1 = 21" (presumedly) GB Score of 12942

Both were uploaded today, October 15th and in correct succession with the 13,1 first then the 13,2 twenty minutes or so later.

Both have locked processors as well. Intel Core i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz.

Ah, I was comparing today's 13,1 to July's 13,2. Looks like today's 13,2 has a faulty stick of RAM or something.

 

[edry.hilario]

Like I said 9to5mac likes to spread the news...so the final blow will be the iMac, since that's what everyone is waiting for.

What do you mean they like to spread the rumors ? Why would they do that what would they gain from doing that

 

[Nandifix]

What do you mean they like to spread the rumors ? Why would they do that what would they gain from doing that

Instead of one person going on their site and reading all the news, the same person will go back onto their site everyday this week while also seeing all the displayed adverts. This creates multiple ad impressions and earns them more money!

 

[rvinther]

Like I said 9to5mac likes to spread the news...so the final blow will be the iMac, since that's what everyone is waiting for.

More like not spread the news... i always feel like they know something but won't tell others about it. The same thing happened last apple event, where they knew the iMac wasn't on the released list, but didn't make public until just before the event.

Why state you spread rumors/news about mac, when you don't.

The only reason they gave the news about the mini and the 13" retina was because MacRumors finally kicked their ass with some real iMac news.

I think 9to5mac is paid and bought by apple, to leak exactly what the want them too. That is how apple works.. they need the hype.

Hope we are gonna see some more iMac news tomorrow and in the near future, but don't think well see the iMac at this event. PROVE ME WRONG APPLE (9to5mac).

A member of the "iMac desires".

 

[iMcLovin]

More like not spread the news... i always feel like they know something but won't tell others about it. The same thing happened last apple event, where they knew the iMac wasn't on the released list, but didn't make public until just before the event.

Why state you spread rumors/news about mac, when you don't.

The only reason they gave the news about the mini and the 13" retina was because MacRumors finally kicked their ass with some real iMac news.

I think 9to5mac is paid and bought by apple, to leak exactly what the want them too. That is how apple works.. they need the hype.

Hope we are gonna see some more iMac news tomorrow and in the near future, but don't think well see the iMac at this event. PROVE ME WRONG APPLE (9to5mac).

A member of the "iMac desires".

I meant spread news as even it out a bit day by day instead of telling all at once. They know more and it will come a bit at a time. ...I guess Spread the news means something a bit different

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What do you mean they like to spread the rumors ? Why would they do that what would they gain from doing that

I meant even it out. not telling it all at once. They did the exact same thing before WWDC. ...like pretending "this just in!..." and they added a new thing to the list. While probably they knew it all at once. I guess to create more hysteria.

 

[rvinther]

I meant spread news as even it out a bit day by day instead of telling all at once. They know more and it will come a bit at a time. ...I guess Spread the news means something a bit different

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I meant even it out. not telling it all at once. They did the exact same thing before WWDC. ...like pretending "this just in!..." and they added a new thing to the list. While probably they knew it all at once. I guess to create more hysteria.

I knew what you meant, i just twisted it to my advantage, just like 9to5

 

[rgdigital]

Nice find bro.

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Nice find too!

Notice the numbers/code names of the processors. AFAIK, Ivy Bridge is the 3770, and current iMac i7's are 2600.

13,1
2600:
Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.40 GHz
1 processor, 4 cores, 8 threads
--also with 8192 MB 1333 MHz DDR3

13,2
3770:
Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40 GHz
1 processor, 4 cores, 8 threads
--also with 4096 MB 1600 MHz DDR3

 

[JayJayAbels]

Notice the numbers/code names of the processors. AFAIK, Ivy Bridge is the 3770, and current iMac i7's are 2600.

13,1
2600:
Intel Core i7-2600 @ 3.40 GHz
1 processor, 4 cores, 8 threads
--also with 8192 MB 1333 MHz DDR3

13,2
3770:
Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40 GHz
1 processor, 4 cores, 8 threads
--also with 4096 MB 1600 MHz DDR3

You're looking at the wrong links or something.

My original post has both correct links. Both iMacs - 13,1 and 13,2 - have i7-3770 Intel processors and the same DDR3 RAM. (1600 MHz.)

 

[forty2j]

Dear Gods of thunder, could someone tell us mere mortals, firstly, what do geekbench marks tell us, and secondly, what do these geekbench marks tell us?

Geekbench can tell us lots of things:
- Models exist
- Models are working well enough to run computations
- Part #'s for certain bits (BIOS/EFI, motherboard) to compare to part #'s of older bits and speculate on degree of difference
- Possible configurations (these had 3.4 GHz i7's with 16 GB RAM)
- Expected performance relative to other computers, at least in terms of computational activities

They can also be faked, so they don't definitively tell you anything, but people in the know can spot the real results (or at least extremely well done fakes) vs. the hogwash. These look plausible.

 

[rgdigital]

You're looking at the wrong links or something.

My original post has both correct links. Both iMacs - 13,1 and 13,2 - have i7-3770 Intel processors and the same DDR3 RAM. (1600 MHz.)

I saw the links, and compared them to the ones I posted earlier. To clarify, my point was that the current iMacs use the 2600 i7's (Sandy Bridge), and the rumored new ones (Ivy Bridge) use 3770 i7's.

 

[ipodmac]

Dont worry guys 9to5mac knows about the iMac. They will post a story within the week. They know everything that will be announced at the event.

 

[Lancer]

Matte is gone. Move on. Take the glass off if you want matte so bad.

Yes I'm going to spend over $2000 on a new iMac and rip the front off it

 

[edry.hilario]

Geek scores could be real, however I don't go by that for the simple fact that they can be easily faked also I up wouldn't understand why apple would use geek bench I'm pretty sure apple has their own way to test those machines they like secrecy so I don't think someone would be doing those, I could be all wrong but geek scores don't mean anything to me

 

[JayJayAbels]

I saw the links, and compared them to the ones I posted earlier. To clarify, my point was that the current iMacs use the 2600 i7's (Sandy Bridge), and the rumored new ones (Ivy Bridge) use 3770 i7's.

Yeah I know. The GB link you posted was uploaded in May.

The 2 new GB scores that I was referring to were the ones uploaded today.

And yeah i7 3770 = Ivy Bridge.

Along with the other leak and rumors I'm starting to believe that it will be a redesign. I just thought, with the success of the new Mac Book Pro w/ retina, that Apple wouldn't redesign their new iMac line without it. A retina display can't be "spec bumped". That is a fundamental part of a redesign. I don't see Apple putting out a redesigned iMac this month and then ANOTHER redesigned iMac some time next year.

Maybe it will have retina! I just can't see how they can implement a 27" retina display and still keep it priced reasonably. I know us Apple users are willing to go a little above for our Macs but a 27" retina display would be MUCH MUCH MORE than "a little".

If you look at the Mac Book Pro line... they updated that line up... but only redesigned one out of the 3.

Will that happen here? Spec bumped iMacs in 21.5" and 27" and a redesigned one in 21.5" w/ retina?

I think that's a bit much but... who knows? Maybe. That would be... awesome!

 

[motrek]

Do you have grey spots in the corners? My 2006 20" has one in the lower left, and a small one on the upper right. Not too noticeable unless you have a solid bright thing full screen (since windows normally don't go down there due to the dock, and the spotlight icon being on the other side), but they've been there for years a long time without worsening, and I never understood what caused it. I even tried "massaging" the area as suggested somewhere, but it neither improved nor worsened. Kind of looks like some backlight issue or something.

Yup, most likely. If your LCD screen is more than 3-4 years old it probably has a CCFL (i.e., fluorescent) backlight which will fail in 5-15 years just like any other fluorescent bulb. It would not be too unusual for any 6 year old LCD panel to have backlight issues right around now. Hopefully they won't get worse for several more years.

Happily almost every new LCD screen these days is LED-backlit and other than eventually losing some brightness, should basically last forever!

 

[edry.hilario]

Yeah I know. The GB link you posted was uploaded in May.

The 2 new GB scores that I was referring to were the ones uploaded today.

And yeah i7 3770 = Ivy Bridge.

Along with the other leak and rumors I'm starting to believe that it will be a redesign. I just thought, with the success of the new Mac Book Pro w/ retina, that Apple wouldn't redesign their new iMac line without it. A retina display can't be "spec bumped". That is a fundamental part of a redesign. I don't see Apple putting out a redesigned iMac this month and then ANOTHER redesigned iMac some time next year.

Maybe it will have retina! I just can't see how they can implement a 27" retina display and still keep it priced reasonably. I know us Apple users are willing to go a little above for our Macs but a 27" retina display would be MUCH MUCH MORE than "a little".

If you look at the Mac Book Pro line... they updated that line up... but only redesigned one out of the 3.

Will that happen here? Spec bumped iMacs in 21.5" and 27" and a redesigned one in 21.5" w/ retina?

I think that's a bit much but... who knows? Maybe. That would be... awesome!

With all the recent complains about the retina MacBook Pro I'm not sure if I want a retina iMac any longer, it seems like the technology is not perfected just yet and I don't want to deal with crap after I get a new machine. This new iMac wether you believe it or now will be a new design they just won't put retina on it then next year or year after they'd come up with retina, all the rumors have pointed out new design we even got leak parts isn't that convincing enough???