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Maybe it will have retina! I just can't see how they can implement a 27" retina display and still keep it priced reasonably. I know us Apple users are willing to go a little above for our Macs but a 27" retina display would be MUCH MUCH MORE than "a little".
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Well, first, it's unclear that retina displays cost much more than non-retina displays. After all, you don't pay for LCD panels by the pixel. A retina display will use the same amount of raw materials as non-retina. The only reason why I think it would cost more is because the components of a bigger pixel might be able to "survive" a small manufacturing defect but the same defect might ruin a smaller pixel, so yields of panels might be lower for that reason.

Also, Apple might justifiably call a 4K display "retina" for the 27" model depending on how far away they think people sit from the displays. It would be 163 DPI, which is probably enough to be called "retina" from ~3 feet away, and "only" has about twice as many pixels as the current 27" display, instead of 4 times as many as with the retina iOS devices.
 
Wonder how credible those GB results are. Both the 13,2 and the 13,1 have the same Mobo ID number. + thinner and still a 3770 in the 21"? Why didn't they underclocked or even undervolted the chip / used a T or S edition? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me ...
 
I don't want retina either. As said earlier, the technology does not seem to be ready yet. They're having problems with the displays themselves, and the integrated graphics cards are having trouble driving the displays smoothly. Not to mention that a lot of software has yet to be updated to retina, most notably Adobe CS6. They've said they're working on an update for Photoshop, but haven't mentioned anything about the rest of their applications as far as I know. That's a deal breaker for me.
 
To be honest I think we will hear some good news tomorrow about the iMac. Possibly with the event invitation. The wait is bad though isn't it?
 
Wonder how credible those GB results are. Both the 13,2 and the 13,1 have the same Mobo ID number. + thinner and still a 3770 in the 21"? Why didn't they underclocked or even undervolted the chip / used a T or S edition? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me ...

There's not much reason to underclock or undervolt these new processors since they automatically change their clock speed and voltage and how many cores are active depending on how hot they are (turbo boost).

Also, low voltage models are usually the premium bin sort and thus more expensive. And for a desktop, where you have sufficient room for large heat sinks and fans, you might as well use cheaper parts that are just as fast. I understand a redesigned iMac will likely be much thinner but I assume it would still allow for more room for cooling hardware than a laptop.

(Edit: I certainly ***HOPE*** they have big cooling hardware since Apple laptops get pretty loud under load.)
 
With all the recent complains about the retina MacBook Pro I'm not sure if I want a retina iMac any longer, it seems like the technology is not perfected just yet and I don't want to deal with crap after I get a new machine. This new iMac wether you believe it or now will be a new design they just won't put retina on it then next year or year after they'd come up with retina, all the rumors have pointed out new design we even got leak parts isn't that convincing enough???

After being a lurker for years and then finally joining Mac Rumors this past May I can honestly say... no... that isn't convincing enough. There are ALL kinds of rumors out there these days. The truth is... we don't know enough to be convinced of anything really. There is no scientific standard here. Instead of a mountain of evidence... we get small chunk of debris... every now and then. So no... I'm not "convinced".

But I have begun "leaning" in the direction of a redesign now. I always felt that redesigning the iMac without a retina display wasn't something that Apple would do. But... that MAY very well be in the cards.

I guess my argument is that putting a retina display in an iMac NEXT year or so... would constitute ANOTHER "redesign" imo. There's a lot of technology that goes into making a screen like that and I don't know how easily it would be to simply exchange the current display with a retina version. I'd imagine some components would have to shift around to make that happen and if the new iMac is even thinner... well... that's a tougher task to accomplish.

With all of that said... I am beginning to believe that there will be a redesigned iMac this month. I think we both hold that same view.
 
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iMac redesign = not retina
2013 Pro machine launch with 4k Cinema displays would be my bet, although i do keep amusing myself and wonder if apple will screw pro users and simply launch a 32" rebadged imac with a retina level screen and stick a pro badge on it.
 
iMac BTO has jumped.... 7-10 days

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It's happening guys
 
What is BTO, why is this good news?

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It means built to Oder, usually when apple does this they usually ship 1-3 days they have now changed it to 7-10 days which means they are not making many of those iMacs and that they don't have many in stock therefore an update is definitely coming, with all the rumors lately and apple showing signs of not having much stock then we can safely assume something's up (an update to the lineup)
 
21" low end is sold out in almost every store. BTO is available for pick now nov 5th now.

5th avenue is sold out of hi27" and low21".

Yes. Something is up.
 
21" low end is sold out in almost every store. BTO is available for pick now nov 5th now.

5th avenue is sold out of hi27" and low21".

Yes. Something is up.

See I don't understand so how they've bee saying there won't be a 27 inch iMac at launch since that's the iMac that it always bee really low on, I could understand releasing them and not having many of them at launch, I'm still to be honest worry about it because that's the one I need and since I've waited all this long it'd be really upsetting if apple doesn't really the specific size I've been waiting but will see
 
As long as it gets USB3, newer CPUs and better other specs I won't mind, lower glare LCD would be a nice bonus.

I'm right on board with you Lancer. Exactly what I want to see. Retina can wait for another year.
 
could we see something in the morning? I was nervous about a delay to the 27" I can't see that happen. 7-10 days on the 27" BTO
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