That would be sweet. 1TB 5400s have been on the market for 6 month now but the flooding is another issue. The added RAM slots is an interesting idea. They would have room for it without the ODD. Id sacrifice the second internal HDD bay for two more RAM slots. Then so long Mac Pro.
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2012 Ivy Bridge Macbook Pro Specs
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That would be sweet. 1TB 5400s have been on the market for 6 month now but the flooding is another issue. The added RAM slots is an interesting idea. They would have room for it without the ODD. Id sacrifice the second internal HDD bay for two more RAM slots. Then so long Mac Pro.
People also come here for product information, peer discussion on product suggestions and help with technical issues amongst many other things.
"Okay here are the specs. Enjoy." is not the way to open a speculation thread in my opinion.
I want an SSD and HDD combo. I also want descent graphics chips, mabey 1GB on the base 15" and 2GB on the high end. Lastly, I really want 4 RAM slots.
OP, no one cares about your speculation. This thread title and even the post is very misleading. And if it's so predictable what Apple will do, then it should be common sense and not need a thread.
You really do know nothing and never know when Apple with throw a curve ball.
You really do know nothing and never know when Apple with throw a curve ball.
I'm not sure what is so misleading, I see lots of posts here about what people think will come out, hell its even on the main page from time to time. If you don't like it, then don't read it or respond to it. Apple's actions are predictable to me, I'm sharing it you guys here since I hear a lot of misconception and misrepresentation of the technologies. Great example is the thread on how the majority of users have no clue about retina display rumor and what it actually means.
Believe me, I've got quite a bit of knowledge in this field and I'm ready for that curveball.
You posted your speculation as fact. That's what the complainers in here are getting pressed about.
Look, it's difficult to have a discussion if you need to resort to name calling just because someone dares to question your ill thought statements.
I said here are my specs. They are detailed and not wishy washy. Will all of them be accurate, no, but thats what a forum is for to discuss it. So please feel free to bring to question anything you disagree with and be prepared to back it up with some good information instead of just hissing at the topic.
Wow, we have an insider.
But actually, those stats are probably very close as to what we can expect.
These days, Apple rarely surprises me anymore on the Mac front since somebody on these forums guesses what they are coming up with. With looking at the pattern, and how Apple offers just a little bit less hardware wise than the top PC companies, one can usually guess pretty well. www.apple-history.com gives a good picture of what Apple has done along with little upgrades on a release months after its introduction.
I am not a power user, so if Apple is not neck and neck with Alien or Sony I just don't really care. It's fun to look at those PC sites on the high end just to see what people are willing to pay. Only by chance did I stumble on an early PC laptop incarnation of an Intel Core "i" series machine quite a bit before Apple adopted the Core "i". But by the time Apple got that chip, they dove into the middle and avoided the lower end Core "i" chips. At the time, my Core i3 rocked in my PC laptop, but six months later, it made more sense to get a Core i5 MBA.
I don't expect Apple to have the very best Ivy Bridge processor though or be the first to go big with it. Let some PC company offer the best and most expensive, and let Apple lag a few months behind and offer something that works really well, inside and out.
A month or two after Apple has their laptop with Ivy Bridge, most people won't remember (or care) if the PC side came up first with a machine with that processor or if Apple did. What people will see is which machine they would rather own. If it were not for high price, Apple would have a much larger share of the laptop world.
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Those were the good old days. G3 iMac, clamshell iBook, TiBook, cube, G4 iMac, icebook. Now that Apple is making their big money with iPod, iPad, iPhone, and iTunes, complete insanely great Mac redesigns are not as important to them.
I knew Apple was going to stay put on major designs when they stayed with the basic aluminum laptop design, flat panel iMac, and G5/Intel tower (all timeless designs). The MBA was a cool innovation, but far from the yearly surprises Apple had for us from the late-1990s until mid-2000s. While there is more that Apple can do to evolve the Mac lines, it makes more sense to go through small bumps and changes and avoid complete redesigns like the cool G4 iMac if the public sees Apple more as an iDevice company.
There is a reason SJ called the new stuff post-PC devices.
Wow, we have an insider.
But actually, those stats are probably very close as to what we can expect.
This. Although my guess is HellHammer's specifications are probably even closer.
That is usually the case but look the original Macbook.
The MacBook shipped in a newly-designed case, built around a 13.3-inch "glossy" LCD panel, a dual core Intel Core Duo processor, a faster 667 MHz bus speed, a faster and larger Serial-ATA hard drive, an integrated iSight camera, a MagSafe power adaptor, and a bundled remote control with Apple's Front Row Software. It also included some features previously found only on Apple's professional laptops: optical audio in/out, a DVI port capable of monitor-spanning, and Gigabit Ethernet. Two features unique to the MacBook were a magnetic latching system with no moving parts, and a resigned recessed keyboard.
This was way better than the iBook G4.
Although disappointing, this is too what I am expecting. I believe we might see an optional hi-res option (retina) update for those though. I was sort of ceptic, but considering OS X's builds latest hints, I guess it's a more credible option. Not only it keeps the costs down, but it also allows them to make some more bucks for on those who want the extra resolution.
As for the redesign, I don't find it too unlikely; I wouldn't bet on it either, though.
"Dramatic refresh" is very subjective.
Personally, I find that most people here seem to relate "dramatic refresh" with "case redesign". Which is really the least important part of a refresh.
I consider the early 2011 MBPs to be a major refresh, because they brought quad core CPUs, significantly better GPUs, SATA 3 drives and Light Peak (Thunderbolt still stupid name). The MBPs haven't seen a comparable jump in performance for years. Likely since they were introduced. And they aren't likely to see a similar jump in performance for a few years yet. Maybe Haswell, maybe not.
P.S. This is a rumour site. If someone lists some computer specs, the fact that they are a complete guess is implied. Similar to how if someone says "I know these specs to be true, because an Apple employee told me", it can be implied that they are a liar
Apple likes to keep updates and upgrades to a minimum too keep it's 'Lemmings' in place to buy all future versions of its products.
By limiting technology and upgrades it can get the 'Hooked' people to keep spending lots of cash for minimal updates.
By limiting technology and upgrades it can get the 'Hooked' people to keep spending lots of cash for minimal updates.
9.5mm = double platter
7.0mm = single platter
So 500GB drives, just like all drives Apple uses, are double platter. Single platter are rather rare and also more expensive. Mainly meant for smaller laptops where the few mm can really matter.
Where shall I start? SF-1200 based SSDs suffered from hibernation issues where the computer would freeze when turned on again. Plus all the unexplained freezes, DOAs and other failed units. SF-2281 based SSDs have suffered from freezes mainly and the reliability isn't all that great either (lots of failed units and DOAs). Just do a Google search. It's general knowledge that SandForce is crap in terms of reliability.
Don't get too excited about the synthetic benchmarks. Will you really notice the 0.1 second difference between 200MB/s and 500MB/s? Besides, what pros want is reliability. It's far more important to get your job done, even if it meant doing it a bit slower. The worst case is that something in your machine fails and you have to waste precious working hours to get it fixed.
If there will be "retina" displays, then they will be standard. That's my guess.
Performance bumps are always predictable. Okay, quad core in all 15" models was a pleasant surprise but all the other specs (except TB, which is quite useless at this point) were pretty much known beforehand.
Case design is one of the few things that is very unpredictable. Then if you add something else significant, like SSDs and retina displays, the update will be enormous. And we get faster CPUs and GPUs as well.
Haswell will still be quad core for mainstream, by the way, so we probably won't see that huge performance gains.
I didn't take the OP's post a a proclamation of fact..
Just some speculation, let lighten up folks we're on "Mac Rumors"
Just some speculation, let lighten up folks we're on "Mac Rumors"
There is a good old saying: "It it ain't broken, don't fix it"
Apple will not do a redesign just for the sake of it. Just look at the iPhone 4S... this looks exactly like the previous model, and that in a market that is moving much faster than the laptop market and where 90% of all customers don't even know that their phone has a CPU.
In my opinion, a case redesign will be worth it when both the OD and the 2.5'' HDD slot can be dropped. With current SSD prices, I see this happening either late 2012 (christmas!) or in 2013, with a new set of CPUs.
I highly doubt we will ever see a SSD/HDD hybrid MBP from Apple. It is a complicated, ugly design, and will be obsolete in 1-2 years.
Finally, the Retina display. I'm sure Apple is experimenting with this. I don't think we will see them in MBPs anytime soon... rumors for the retina iPads were around a year ago, and it's still not available.
Apple will not do a redesign just for the sake of it. Just look at the iPhone 4S... this looks exactly like the previous model, and that in a market that is moving much faster than the laptop market and where 90% of all customers don't even know that their phone has a CPU.
In my opinion, a case redesign will be worth it when both the OD and the 2.5'' HDD slot can be dropped. With current SSD prices, I see this happening either late 2012 (christmas!) or in 2013, with a new set of CPUs.
I highly doubt we will ever see a SSD/HDD hybrid MBP from Apple. It is a complicated, ugly design, and will be obsolete in 1-2 years.
Finally, the Retina display. I'm sure Apple is experimenting with this. I don't think we will see them in MBPs anytime soon... rumors for the retina iPads were around a year ago, and it's still not available.