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I'm having a hard time finding much to go off in judging the card. Apparently Kepler brings significant advantages with battery life and still provides great graphics, but I can't find much specifically about the 650.

The card is not officially out yet, so there aren't any reviews. Alienware, amongst others, are going to use it in their recently announced Ivy bridge laptops so I think it will be decent.

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One of my concerns is the fact I've invested in a lot of GRAID's which features USB 2.0, FW400/800, and eSata. They have thunderbolt drives available, but I don't want to ditch the ones I have now. FW800 is plenty fast for what I do, and now that port is gone on the MBP.

I wonder what I could do :/

You have various options. You will still have USB (3). You can purchase the ATD, which features Firewire ports and there are adaptors on the horizon that will have Firewire and Gigabit Ethernet. It's not time to panic just yet. You're going to see more TB devices now that PC manufacturers are starting to adopt it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5829/a-first-look-at-thunderbolt-on-windows-with-msis-z77agd80

I am using the Lacie TB eSATA dock with a G-drive and an LG BR writer, but it does not do eSATA port-multiplication so it may not work for you depending on what enclosures you have.
 
Apple seems to be playing it safe by including both USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt according to today's rumor. It seems to make sense to me. No word yet on if the new MBP's will include SSD's. The extra speed would be great but alot would depend on how much storage they’d be able to squeeze into this new form factor. Typically MBP’s are purchased by audio/video/photo professionals who require large amounts of internal storage. For now this is a “wait and see” category.

http://mandatory-tech.com/2012/05/14/dont-buy-a-macbook-pro-yet/
 
Man...sucks. My daughter is starting a new job the first of June and needs to replace her Macbook. Don't think she will be able to wait until June 11.
 
Man...sucks. My daughter is starting a new job the first of June and needs to replace her Macbook. Don't think she will be able to wait until June 11.

Buy on literally the very last day before she actually needs it.

Hold out for 14 days. Hopefully the MBP arrives on June 11 (or earlier) and she is still within 14 days of the cooling off period. Take it back, refund, buy new Macbook Pro.
 
New job that requires a MacBook ??Then company should provide. My guess is that she can wait , if she must have the new one

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So sans optical drive= room for multiple SSD or HDDs? And maybe a slightly lower price?
 
Looking to upgrade from my current Macbook 1,1 to 13" or possibly a 15".

Based on the geekbench scores posted for the new Macbook Pro's I should see a slight performance improvement as my current geekbench score is 2645.

Yeah those 10K some extra points aren't much... My MacBook Pro 1,1 scores around 2826. So stoked, almost six whole years since my last upgrade! Definitely getting the 17"
:D
 
Does anyone think that they'll use a dual HSF design to keep the temps lower? Or a shruiken display?
 
New job that requires a MacBook ??Then company should provide. My guess is that she can wait , if she must have the new one

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So sans optical drive= room for multiple SSD or HDDs? And maybe a slightly lower price?

It doesn't require a macbook, but the one she has is 8 years old and before she starts her first "big girl" job, she wanted to get a new one. She will be traveling alot, so wanted to have a nice computer. I told her to see if they get her one since she will be using it for work alot as well. Even if they give her part of the money and she puts in to get what she wants. The macbook she has now has become sluggish and she wants to get it before she hits the road which could be the first of June. I think I will make her wait it out until last moment so she could return if need be.
 
Apple isn't about to remove the optical drive just to fill that space with nothing or another hard drive. They're not going to introduce a blade SSD + HDD setup either. We're looking at a typical 2.5" long, 9.5 mm deep hard drive with SSD option.
 
Apple isn't about to remove the optical drive just to fill that space with nothing or another hard drive. They're not going to introduce a blade SSD + HDD setup either. We're looking at a typical 2.5" long, 9.5 mm deep hard drive with SSD option.

isn't a typical 2.5" with SSD option = fill the optical drive space with another hard drive(SSD,HHD, etc?)...
 
I'm guessing it will have a blade-style SSD like the Air along with a normal 2.5" HDD.

I wish you were right but unfortunately I suspect that market research will show this requirement is for the minority. Apple has been all about the majority lately.

So I'll probably be snapping up a previous gen bargain. Especially given my experience with the retina iPad: that retina display may put serious demands on the graphics card and battery.
 
isn't a typical 2.5" with SSD option = fill the optical drive space with another hard drive(SSD,HHD, etc?)...
I'm saying it's likely that Apple will stick with relatively the same storage options in their 2012 MacBook Pro as in the 2011 model. Apple doesn't currently offer the option to put a second hard drive in your MacBook Pro. That's a modification made by the user. When I said "with SSD option" I meant that the HDD can be upgraded to a SSD, not a SSD in addition to a HDD.

I think that a 7 mm hard drive or a blade SSD is very unlikely because they are both relatively expensive and not all too common.
 
Apple isn't about to remove the optical drive just to fill that space with nothing or another hard drive. They're not going to introduce a blade SSD + HDD setup either. We're looking at a typical 2.5" long, 9.5 mm deep hard drive with SSD option.

Source? Or just guessing like I was?

They already ship machines with SSD+HDD combos (iMacs) and they already buy the blade style SSDs in large quantities. I bet that they're cheaper for Apple because they don't have a case and mounting hardware like a normal SSD and because they buy them in such large quantities.
 
I am just really curious if they keep the old storage format (comes with HDD but with SSD upgrade option), what are they going to put in that huge optical bay space :confused:
 
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