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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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yes, that is correct, it includes sales tax.
to compare them for example for the canadian store you have to add 13% (if you live in Ontario) to the prices you see online.
It's even better to compare them to current prices on the Australian store and be prepared to be surprised to find out how badly our Australian friends are ripped off.
The size leak is on the supposed label that has been floating around the net the last day or so. It is not only thinner, but overall smaller.
http://asia.cnet.com/new-15-inch-macbook-pro-specs-leaked-62216246.htm
heres the leak size for the 15"
This was pointed a year ago...
This image is a Fake. Intel does not offer an i7 Quad Core Processor with 2.6 GHz AND 8 MB cache. There is only 2.6 GHz with 6MB Cache, OR 2.7 GHz and 8 MB cache.
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Agreed! Also, i heard that the gpu was going to be the hd7970m, real good in the top model.
7970M? How would be that possible? In MBP Case there is no space to put it in there. Besides, 7970M is a 75-100W graphic card, so it couldn't be powered by the power supply of MBP.
Biggest possibility in GPU for new MBP's are: Radeon HD7750-7850M, and GT640m-650M, and GTX 660M.
7970M is most possible for 27 inch iMac.
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Yep. The 2.6 is the 3720QM with 6 MB cache. I can't believe someone would go through all of the trouble to fake something like that only to get the details wrong.
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That does not make any sense. A rumour does not disapprove or prove anything. Never mind the technical issues, as pointed out above.
4 Days 10 Hours 18 Minutes Until WWDC 2012 Keynote
So then we will know more about the new MBP line up
Honestly, if MBAs are given a huge spec bump, I might go for the MBAs instead. but im still excited to see the MBPs.
It's been like a morgue on here the past few days or so hasn't it. Rather than everyone being excited about the hopeful release on Monday, which we've all been waiting about 6 months for, it's as if Apple have just told us we need to wait another 6 months!
Now don't get me wrong I'll still be on here reading the latest a few times a day but it's almost like I don't want to hear any rumours or read about any leaks because of the validity of them and how they're putting people off rather than making people more excited. I'd rather just wait until D-Day to know exactly what we will or won't be getting.
I've saved up for a 13" MBP, something which I never thought would be dropped until the talk from the past few days. If it does happen then I'm sure Apple will have an extremely good reason for it, just like everything else they will release next week. Just because Steve Jobs isn't around anymore it doesn't mean that everything he had planned for the next couple of years has been ditched and a bunch of monkey's have been let loose on the place to make hasty decisions.
Now don't get me wrong I'll still be on here reading the latest a few times a day but it's almost like I don't want to hear any rumours or read about any leaks because of the validity of them and how they're putting people off rather than making people more excited. I'd rather just wait until D-Day to know exactly what we will or won't be getting.
I've saved up for a 13" MBP, something which I never thought would be dropped until the talk from the past few days. If it does happen then I'm sure Apple will have an extremely good reason for it, just like everything else they will release next week. Just because Steve Jobs isn't around anymore it doesn't mean that everything he had planned for the next couple of years has been ditched and a bunch of monkey's have been let loose on the place to make hasty decisions.
I think that 13" spec sheet 'leak' demoralized a lot of us because of the reality that we might end up with just another crummy spec update.
That would be horrible because many people have already sold their MacBook's (I'm in the process of selling mine). I hope Apple doesn't pull any of that sh
t because it would piss a lot of people off.Really? That's the TDP, not how much power it needs. Same thing how the CPU's are 35-45W TDP. It's how much heat they put out that needs to be dissipated. Apparently, my current GPU is using .5 W in terms of power consumption, not TDP.
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In my opinion, I think there will be 11,13 and maybe 15 inch MACBOOKS and 15 and 17 inch MACBOOK PROS. I think apple will drop the air title all together, there is no need for it. When it was first introduced, the air name was used to draw attention to the thin design, in todays modern age, that is nothing out of the ordinary. Thin is in and it will continue to be.
If you remember before the came out with the unibodies, the 13 inch laptops were all MACBOOKS, you couldn't get a 13 inch macbook pro, that was reserved for the 15 and 17 inch. I see no reason why they can't go back to the same logic.
If you remember before the came out with the unibodies, the 13 inch laptops were all MACBOOKS, you couldn't get a 13 inch macbook pro, that was reserved for the 15 and 17 inch. I see no reason why they can't go back to the same logic.
Yeah something along those lines seems most likely.
There are a number of reasons that the 13 inch pro has more value than the air, I hope Apple addresses these if they expect the air to replace the pro. (storage space, upgradability, screen quality etc.)
Or maybe the answer to that is keeping the minor spec bumped 13 inch pro as an education model as many have speculated.. that would be boring though.
Well at least my expectations have been dropped right down so I shouldn't be disappointed on the day.
But how can a GPU dissipate more heat than what is put into it? It won dissipate 45W of heat unless you put atleast 45W into it.
Same with an oven, you can't put 1W into it and get 400W of heat.
That would make sense, because otherwise there is no way that the two most recent leaks can both be true
On one side, we have the leaked specs sticker of the new 13" MBP that looks pretty legit, and on the other we have this Australian reseller SKU list that was obtained independently by both AppleInsider and 9to5Mac, which suggests no refresh of the 13" MBP.
The only way that both "leaks" would be true is if the Australian reseller wasn't selling the new 13" MBP, and the only possible way I can imagine is if this model is exclusive to Apple Stores and University campuses stores for students only.
That's what they did at some point with the white MacBook and the 17"/20" iMacs. Even right now there are special cheaper configurations of the 13" MacBook Air and 21.5" iMac exclusive to schools.
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TDP is how much heat in Watts needs to be dissipated by the cooling system in order for the CPU, GPU, etc. to run correctly without overheating. People just get confused because heat transferred also uses the unit of Watts, same as power.
It's not that bad when you consider that the comparison isn't totally fair because the Australian prices include 10% sales taxes which the US prices don't.
The conversion isn't the same depending on each Mac model, but for a cheap laptop like the baseline 11" MacBook Air (US$999 or AU$1099), the price is about the same before taxes.
EDIT: It's actually cheaper in Australia before taxes. $1099 without the 10% tax is AU$999.09 = US$992.80 at current exchange rate.
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Thank you for claryfying for me. Anyway, 75W is WAY too high for cooling system that is in MBP to dissipate it. It is designed for max 100W of CPU and GPU all together. In other words. No chances to see better GPU than HD7870M or GTX 660M
You're right - the cooling system isn't going to need to dissipate more heat than it itself (the fan) and the CPU/GPU are actually consuming. For example, if the CPU+GPU are consuming 45W, the cooling system isn't going to be dissipating more than 45W of heat energy. Energy doesn't come out of nowhere.
TDP is a measure of the maximum power use that the CPU+GPU will consume with reasonably computationally-intense 'real world' applications running. The power consumed by the CPU+GPU and therefore the heat energy generated will vary based on the computing task that the CPU+GPU are working on. The cooling system - fans, heatsinks, heat pipes - need to be designed to dissipate this much heat energy. If the CPU+GPU exceed this thermal envelope (like with a busy-waiting heat virus), the CPU and or GPU will either clock-step down or shut off/crash.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article169-page3.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power
Proof: iPad3 - bigger battery, more heat, less battery life. Sharper display for no extra real estate, I'd choose not I think.
Ipad3 is a stunning display but a decent currently available laptop display is not far behind. All that Apple needs to sort out its resolution independence to prevent interface elements getting too small. This doubling idea may lead to disappointment in certain specs, as well as no respite from the dumbing down of the os x interface (unshrinkable UI elements and skuomorphism, etc).
Though the new iPad has a backlight that needs to be 2.5x brighter because of the retina display, but there are ways around that problem (like IGZO) that were not ready at the time of the iPad launch but may be ready now.
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