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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

Xcallibur said:
That would be cool, but there's no real rumours that I know of thay support this.
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With everyone starting to copy Apple's design aesthetic, seems like time to mix things up a bit. The darker aluminum would certainly blend much better with the black bezel on the glossy devices, and not create such a stark contrast on the matte devices. I assume they'd go back to white chiclet keys, or maybe something light grey. This might also explain all the new peripheral updates.

Purely speculation of course. Does seem like a change to the unibody would be the easiest way to signal to those seeking a design refresh and those spotting Apple products in the store that "Hey kids, this is an all new thing."
 
Price Reductions of 2011 Macbooks?

Does anyone have any data points on past refreshes with respect to price drops on legacy machines? My sister-in-law's macbook just died and she needs a new one. Definitely doesn't need the latest and greatest. I've advised her to wait until next week since the existing stock of new and refurb macbooks will likely see a price drop when a new model is released. Is my advice likely correct? Does apple typically immediately drop the price of legacy macbook models once they release new versions (similar to what they did with the iPad2)?

Thanks.
 
I hadn't thought of colour changes, we may see a deviation from the black keyboard aluminium body look..
 
URFloorMatt said:
Thoughts on the new models maybe sporting the darker "gun metal" aluminum we've seen in the leaked iPhone 5 "unibody" casing? This darker coloring also seems to echo the navigation bar at Apple.com, which they changed sometime last year or so?
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Can someone mock this up? It sounds good.

However, aluminium in grey/silver still seems to be a signature Apple is happy to stick with (unlike translucent plastic after everyone started copying that in the original iMac years).
 
It would be awesome if they gave the option to anodize the aluminum like they do for iPods. Colored computers could look nice in anodized aluminum, a stark contrast to the cheap plastic dells also on the market.
 
Apologies if this has already been discussed (I'd be disappointed in myself if it actually has after reading all 180 of these pages!) but will it be possible to stream the keynote live within the UK?
 
CountSessine said:
Of course, there's a certain amount of the consumed energy that goes to actually doing the computations - changing the internal state of the CPU+GPU. But I'm guessing that most of the consumed power is wasted heating up the chips.
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Yes (sorry, it's hard for me to tell technical thinks in english).

BTW, I just ordered MacBook Pro 15" 2.4 GHz HiRes. If the MacBook Pro 15 2012 is better and still have what I want, I will send it back and buy a the one. I'am really wonder/affraid about how a less than 20 mm laptop will handle so many watts. I care much more about silence and a cool laptop than a new design.
 
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rikramer said:
Does anyone have any data points on past refreshes with respect to price drops on legacy machines? My sister-in-law's macbook just died and she needs a new one. Definitely doesn't need the latest and greatest. I've advised her to wait until next week since the existing stock of new and refurb macbooks will likely see a price drop when a new model is released. Is my advice likely correct? Does apple typically immediately drop the price of legacy macbook models once they release new versions (similar to what they did with the iPad2)?

Thanks.
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From my understanding they don't typically drop refurb prices of the old model until the new model shows up as a refurb as well. Even then I find Apple doesn't make a huge price difference between generations. I realize they did it for the iPad 2 so it's 50/50. They don't have a history of doing it (other than this one time), but maybe it's something they're starting to do?

I would suspect not though. I think the iPad 2 refurb price drop was to create a bigger, more reasonable price gap between the refurb/new price and really push sales of the product to attract people who didn't want the $499 or even $399 price range (such as myself; worked on me). It's unique because it's the first time they've kept an old model in the stores to sell as new so it's the first time an old refurb can still be purchased new. Seems more of an exception than the rule though so I doubt the price will drop lower than it has already.
 
jgc said:
... so I doubt the price will drop lower than it has already.
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Would this apply to new 2011 stock? what will they likely do with the remaining 2011 inventory once the 2012 macbooks are released? I imagine they cant keep them at the same price point.
 
Blu-Ray said:
Thanks - that explains it well. The $/GB is so much higher for blade than 2.5" though. And it looks like OWC is the only option other than Apple installed.

I plan to bootcamp Windows 7 and need a 256 GB SSD (128 GB for each OS). I guess I will weigh out the options after the Keynote on Monday.
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There's another problem with those "blade" SSDs. Anand found out the connector on MBA's blade is slightly different than that used on the ASUS ZBP's blade. I'm not even sure which connector design is standard.

Yeah, OWC is pretty much the only option for third-party MBA SSD replacements, and also the only place to go for a 480GB blade.
 
rikramer said:
Would this apply to new 2011 stock? what will they likely do with the remaining 2011 inventory once the 2012 macbooks are released? I imagine they cant keep them at the same price point.
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Apple is the master of having the perfect amount of stock, though. They turn around their stock (at least at their stores) in 5 days. They would have known a while ago that they're refreshing next week and would adjust accordingly. They'll have a bit of stock left over at some stores maybe, and third-party stores (i.e. Best Buy) may sell them for a slight $50 discount to get rid of them. Nothing significant in my experience. They'll also keep some for replacing returned laptops through AppleCare etc.

It's not impossible but it's highly doubtful the prices will lower until the new refurbs show up in 3-4 months. I'd wait til the new laptops refresh just to make sure, though.
 
URFloorMatt said:
Thoughts on the new models maybe sporting the darker "gun metal" aluminum we've seen in the leaked iPhone 5 "unibody" casing? This darker coloring also seems to echo the navigation bar at Apple.com, which they changed sometime last year or so?
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I'm not counting on it, though it could look cool. The problem with darkening aluminum like that is that it ends to show fingerprints and wear rather quickly. Structurally it's fine, but it looks ugly after some handling.

I also think it's unlikely because I don't think those iPhone backs are aluminum. We already know that aluminum isn't good for wireless reception, hence the plastic apple logos that allow wifi transmission on Macs & iPads and the glass covered polymer backs on the iPhone 4 & 4S. It's doubtful that the whole back is composed of stainless steel (though it's a possibility).

That may be the infamous Liquid Metal that we're seeing in those backs. What's cool about that material is that it can be made to suit any specifications. If the user wants it to look like aluminum, they can. If they want to change the color, they can. It can be finished in various ways as well. Frankly, if done right, Liquid Metal can be made to replace standard metal parts and look just like the parts it has replaced. Unless it's stated, most people wouldn't even realize it.

It can also be made to increase different performance factors in metals, for example, it can be made to better conduct wireless signals--and has already been used as an antenna.

Apple could have perfected fabrication for components of that size at this point. Something the size of a MacBook Pro? Probably not.
 
Anyone know if the apple stores carry any build to order? Looking at getting upgraded chip(2.7?) highest res 15" matte screen maybe ssd if price isn't too much more. I'm going to guess no but it's a hope otherwise that's another two weeks or so wait....
 
My 2 cents of fun information. The apple store near me is remodling (San Luis Obispo) and is blacked out. However, there is a sign that says they are reopening June 11, same day as WWDC! Also a friend who works at an apple store says he no one is allowed to take a day off June 12.

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varsis said:
Anyone know if the apple stores carry any build to order? Looking at getting upgraded chip(2.7?) highest res 15" matte screen maybe ssd if price isn't too much more. I'm going to guess no but it's a hope otherwise that's another two weeks or so wait....
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When my buddy got his MBP they had a model with the most powerful CPU and matte high res screen as an available in stock BTO.
 
Burrel said:
Apologies if this has already been discussed (I'd be disappointed in myself if it actually has after reading all 180 of these pages!) but will it be possible to stream the keynote live within the UK?
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You obviously haven't read all 180 pages properly :p I asked this in this thread a couple weeks ago - and you can't. I also did a thread about it and there's no real direct stream of it... Just vid blogs straight after the event ect
 
varsis said:
Awesome guess I will be trying the nearest apple store!
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Just want to chime in, I tried to purchase that option at two local Apple Stores and neither have them in stock.

What you should do is go to apple.com and add a Macbook pro with those options to cart. Then click the "Pickup in store" option and check your local stores. That way you can check if they have that locally without taking a trip.
 
Exana said:
BTW, I just ordered MacBook Pro 15" 2.4 GHz HiRes. If the MacBook Pro 15 2012 is better and still have what I want, I will send it back and buy a the one. I'am really wonder/affraid about how a less than 20 mm laptop will handle so many watts. I care much more about silence and a cool laptop than a new design.
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...why? You do realize that the current MacBooks will be cheaper after the new ones are announced, and that it's literally less than 4 days from WWDC?
 
Jamesesesesess said:
...why? You do realize that the current MacBooks will be cheaper after the new ones are announced, and that it's literally less than 4 days from WWDC?
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Some just can't wait and deep inside it is killing them :p. Anyway (I believe) he can just return the computer for full price. Don't see what four days of usage would truthfully bring, but I can't speak for them.
 
I would hate to have a brand spanking new MBP, get it all set up, and what not and then have to return it after a few days to upgrade. I feel like it does you no good.
 
jacg said:
However, aluminium in grey/silver still seems to be a signature Apple is happy to stick with (unlike translucent plastic after everyone started copying that in the original iMac years).
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Everyone's copying the aluminum look of the Mac line. HP, Samsung, and Sony's high end laptops are all copies of the Air/Pro.

Time to shake things up. The brushed aluminum on the Samsung 9 is slick. Perhaps Apple can do some kind of aluminum/carbon fiber composite, which would also reduce the weight (assuming the aluminum enclosure contributes anything substantial as is). There was some hiring by Apple just over a year ago that suggested they might be going composite.
 
Jamesesesesess said:
...why? You do realize that the current MacBooks will be cheaper after the new ones are announced, and that it's literally less than 4 days from WWDC?
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I fully understand but there is no refurb in my country, also no store with HiRes MacBook Pro 15" in stock (even online store in europe don't have HiRes french keybord in stock). It's the only way I can get it such a configuration. :( After WWDC, I can only get a new MacBook Pro from Apple or any MacBook Pro 15 1440x900 for lower price. But I do not want 1440x900. So, it's a costly safty way to get a MacBook Pro 15 1680x1050. :( :(

Boe11 said:
Then you've chosen poorly.
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I don't think new ones will be quiter under load. About the same TDP for CPU and GPU, thinner case and thus smaller fans so more noise. If I'am wrong, I send my ordered MacBook Pro 15 HiRes back to Apple...
 
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Greetings, have been reading along for some time now, but I thought I needed to make a comment now.

We all have seen this chart from appleinsider, yes?

http://photos.appleinsider.com/parts120606b.jpg

Ok, now let's think about it:
The current 15" MBP in Australia costs 2099 AU$ (vs new: 2499 AU$) or 2499$ (vs new:3199 AU$).
The current 17" costs 2899$.

So really? A 400 AU$ bump for the basic model and a 700 AU$ !! bump for the advanced 15"?
Wouldn't it be a little more realistic to expect just one 15" priced ad 2499 AU$ and a 300 AU$ jump for a 17" (retina?)?
 
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