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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

samac92 said:
Though the new iPad has a backlight that needs to be 2.5x brighter because of the retina display, but their ways around that problem (like IGZO) that were not ready at the time of the iPad launch but may be ready now.
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Good point. iPad 4 will be amazing! And hopefully new MacBooks next week.
 
I've never wanted the weekend to go by this fast in my life... Just want to know the details ASAP!
 
CountSessine said:
You're right - the cooling system isn't going to need to dissipate more heat than it itself (the fan) and the CPU/GPU are actually consuming. For example, if the CPU+GPU are consuming 45W, the cooling system isn't going to be dissipating more than 45W of heat energy. Energy doesn't come out of nowhere.

TDP is a measure of the maximum power use that the CPU+GPU will consume with reasonably computationally-intense 'real world' applications running. The power consumed by the CPU+GPU and therefore the heat energy generated will vary based on the computing task that the CPU+GPU are working on. The cooling system - fans, heatsinks, heat pipes - need to be designed to dissipate this much heat energy. If the CPU+GPU exceed this thermal envelope (like with a busy-waiting heat virus), the CPU and or GPU will either clock-step down or shut off/crash.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article169-page3.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power
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That's right. Last year, I place a powermeter on the plug. While doing 3D rendering (on both GPU & CPU), my MacBook Pro 2,2 GHz with Radeon HD 6750M was eating about 80 to 90 watts. So if about 90 watts are comming in, they should also go out. I alos noticed that CPU was throttling from time to time. It was doing really less job. Also, battery stop charging or was discharging.
 
I was nervous too but I've resigned to the fact that the new 15" MBP will be out of my budget so I need to look at my other options in this sequence:

1) New 13" MBP (if there is one and the spec/cost is good compared to Zenbook Prime)
2) New 13" MBA (if the SSD size is increased to a standard 256 GB or the upgrade cost to 256 GB is "reasonable" or it becomes user upgradeable)
3) Refurb late 2011 13" MBP or 15" MBP
4) Zenbook Prime if the above do not work out

Anxiously waiting for Monday so I can make a decision because I am currently laptopless...
 
Blu-Ray said:
I was nervous too but I've resigned to the fact that the new 15" MBP will be out of my budget so I need to look at my other options in this sequence:

1) New 13" MBP (if there is one and the spec/cost is good compared to Zenbook Prime)
2) New 13" MBA (if the SSD size is increased to a standard 256 GB or the upgrade cost to 256 GB is "reasonable" or it becomes user upgradeable)
3) Refurb late 2011 13" MBP or 15" MBP
4) Zenbook Prime if the above do not work out

Anxiously waiting for Monday so I can make a decision because I am currently laptopless...
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The SSD in the Air is already user upgradeable: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Express
 
Thoughts on the new models maybe sporting the darker "gun metal" aluminum we've seen in the leaked iPhone 5 "unibody" casing? This darker coloring also seems to echo the navigation bar at Apple.com, which they changed sometime last year or so?
 
Blu-Ray said:
Anxiously waiting for Monday so I can make a decision because I am currently laptopless...
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Same been laptopless for about 4 weeks - was going to get an anti glare 15" refurb but am still holding out for the new model!
 
URFloorMatt said:
Thoughts on the new models maybe sporting the darker "gun metal" aluminum we've seen in the leaked iPhone 5 "unibody" casing? This darker coloring also seems to echo the navigation bar at Apple.com, which they changed sometime last year or so?
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That would be cool, but there's no real rumours that I know of thay support this.
 
It's just struck me the possibility of the next revision having this darkish-grey tone to the aluminium as shown by the touted iPhone 5 casing

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URFloorMatt said:
Thoughts on the new models maybe sporting the darker "gun metal" aluminum we've seen in the leaked iPhone 5 "unibody" casing? This darker coloring also seems to echo the navigation bar at Apple.com, which they changed sometime last year or so?
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Beat me to it then. :)
 
Exana said:
That's right. Last year, I place a powermeter on the plug. While doing 3D rendering (on both GPU & CPU), my MacBook Pro 2,2 GHz with Radeon HD 6750M was eating about 80 to 90 watts. So if about 90 watts are comming in, they should also go out. I alos noticed that CPU was throttling from time to time. It was doing really less job. Also, battery stop charging or was discharging.
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Of course, there's a certain amount of the consumed energy that goes to actually doing the computations - changing the internal state of the CPU+GPU. But I'm guessing that most of the consumed power is wasted heating up the chips.
 
Can someone fill me in on why everything I have been reading lately seems to think amd will be the graphics chip? I thought it was gonna be nvidia with Kepler. I've seen multiple places mention amd all of a sudden. Did I miss something??
 
Slightly worried we have not seen any leaked pictures of the Macbook Pros. I'm hoping for more than a refresh
 
sk8r1230 said:
Can someone fill me in on why everything I have been reading lately seems to think amd will be the graphics chip? I thought it was gonna be nvidia with Kepler. I've seen multiple places mention amd all of a sudden. Did I miss something??
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Nvidia!??!!? Should be at least the gt660m!

For the price we are paying! Come on Apple!

I hate to be so mature and wish a hardware compatible with the price i'm willing to pay!
 
Blu-Ray said:
1) New 13" MBP (if there is one and the spec/cost is good compared to Zenbook Prime)
2) New 13" MBA (if the SSD size is increased to a standard 256 GB or the upgrade cost to 256 GB is "reasonable" or it becomes user upgradeable)
3) Refurb late 2011 13" MBP or 15" MBP
4) Zenbook Prime if the above do not work out

Anxiously waiting for Monday so I can make a decision because I am currently laptopless...
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I need good laptop for college and I have exact same options as you, 3 more days and we will see.


Blu-Ray said:
Ha - I didn't realize that it was! I thought the AIR was stuck with the RAM and SSD that it came with. Looks like it is just stuck with the RAM then.

Why then do people tout the MBP as user-upgradeable and the Air as not? Surely not just because of the RAM?
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Because Air uses blade style SSD and not 2.5" SSD
 
Blu-Ray said:
Thanks - that explains it well. The $/GB is so much higher for blade than 2.5" though. And it looks like OWC is the only option other than Apple installed.

I plan to bootcamp Windows 7 and need a 256 GB SSD (128 GB for each OS). I guess I will weigh out the options after the Keynote on Monday.
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About a week ago, this story popped up about another 3rd party Macbook Air compatible SSD.

http://www.runcore.com/en/RC-SSDnewsdetail-266.html

Don't know when they'll be released, but hopefully the prices for the blade-style ssd will start to fall
 
URFloorMatt said:
Thoughts on the new models maybe sporting the darker "gun metal" aluminum we've seen in the leaked iPhone 5 "unibody" casing? This darker coloring also seems to echo the navigation bar at Apple.com, which they changed sometime last year or so?
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question is, upper half or lower half?
 
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