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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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If I were Apple I'd do one of each. That said, apparently it's going to be Nvidia (unless they completey botch it).
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/12/01/can-nvidia-supply-apple/
in response to the rumors circulating about a possible April announcement of "thinner" MBPs:
Would said announcement be the big redesign this thread is about?
The rumors around that potential announcement don't sound nearly as drastic as some of the posts in this thread or other sources (e.g. rumors about the redesign posted by MacRumors)
Would said announcement be the big redesign this thread is about?
The rumors around that potential announcement don't sound nearly as drastic as some of the posts in this thread or other sources (e.g. rumors about the redesign posted by MacRumors)
This. But I would love to have a 24-hour battery than the retina display (which ever one is cheaper for Apple), but a 24-hour battery has to happen sooner than later.
I'd guess later, and the only way it would happen is if other internals used less power, battery technology isn't really progressing, the MBPs design shows that, the only way they could improve battery life was to literally make the battery bigger...
From an early test of a desktop Ivy Bridge part by AnandTech: if we compare power consumptions of the SB 2600K to that of the IB 3770K, power efficiency has improved by ~17.4% under full load. At idle, ~3.3%.
Anand noted:
Namely, with a CPU mostly idle or under low stress, battery life should not improve by much. However, the greater the average stress, the more battery life should be extended.
I know CPU is not the only component consuming power, but it plays a major role, and given the above, I wouldn't expect a 24-hour battery life any time soon.
We should get up to 1 hour of extra battery life for a MacBooks rated at 7 hours.
I'm really hoping Apple makes SOME kind of MacBook Pro related announcement in April. Whether that is to refresh the late 2011 or give us a redesign. If it's a redesign and it doesn't stack up to the previous models, then I can still get a late 2011 and not feel like I'm buying an outdated computer.
If they keep the same design, I can rest easy that my purchase will serve me well for years to come. Especially since it will have all of the upgradeable features. That ODD will surely be replaced by a SSD eventually.
So April would be grand, no matter which direction they go.
If they keep the same design, I can rest easy that my purchase will serve me well for years to come. Especially since it will have all of the upgradeable features. That ODD will surely be replaced by a SSD eventually.
So April would be grand, no matter which direction they go.
Actually, Intel had announced in September 2011 that their Haswell chips will be out next year and will offer your laptop a 24-hour run time and a 10-day standby mode with a single charge.
Apple has always been a world-leader in bringing to the fore-front advanced technologies before anyone else does, so it would only make sense if they bring the 24-hour laptop out this year preemptively.
Apple has always been a world-leader in bringing to the fore-front advanced technologies before anyone else does, so it would only make sense if they bring the 24-hour laptop out this year preemptively.
Not this. I would much rather have a retina display with a marginal increase in battery life just due to the fact of the new ivy bridge cpu's. Your not going to see a 24 hour battery in the 2012 MBP's. It better frickin have retina display though.
I guess I'm going to wait until next year and buy one before heading off to college. I'm thinking the 17" would be the way to go
I graduate this May FROM college so I would love the new one for grad school. I know the most recent one came out last winter, so does anyone know when the new one will come out? This coming fall or winter perhaps? I guess I should wait..
The early 2011 came out in Feb I think.
But the upgrade will have IB which is in April I think.
I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that the new Macbook "whatevers" will come out before August Back to School. Now, what these new macbooks will be/look like ... that I don't know.
That will only work if you either put a low power CPU in a normally sized laptop. Haswell could bring substantial improvements in efficiency, but it will not cut power consumption down 75%, and even then, the CPU is only one of many power consumers, even if it is a big one.
I would be happy with improved battery life under light and medium load, but I don't want a MBP equipped with a low power CPU like the Air.
Oh I am so confused lol. I spoke w. an Apple rep through the Chat system and she told me the latest one came out last winter or last fall, like in November. Then I read somewhere that the newest one is PROBABLY coming out this spring.
Its not on the same scale because it's cheaper. Nothing more. The fact that 2 out of the 3 models in the same line have dedicated GPU's has nothing to do with it. Apple has so decreed it.
Spec wise? The ability to open one up for upgrades and not the other? Faster machine? Wow. You need to open your eyes. The MBP13 shares far more similarities to the 15/17 than it does the Air.
My point... err opinion is... you and many others are trying to align the word "Pro" with some universal definition that doesn't exist in the world of merchandising. It's just marketing hype... like "Pro" toothpaste or pro underwear (which I'm sure exist somewhere)
The early 2011 model appeared in february 2011
The late 2011 model appeared in october 2011
see the buyers guide for more details.
A 2012 model will most likely happen, and as you said, might come out in spring (april - june seem reasonable).
Regarding battery life:
Granted thickness has increased as well, but that may be due to a thicker LCD panel: in the presentation video, they explain that due to pixels being so tiny and tightly packed, they had to be elevated from the signals layer to avoid interferences.
If they managed to increase battery capacity while retaining the same thickness, I guess we can expect the same kinds of gains in the next MacBooks, bringing battery life to a very rough theoretical of (7h + 1h) + 70% = 13.6 hours.
And that's with the current physical dimensions of the battery. The volume freed by the optical drive equals about 40% of the battery. Adding that to the already increased estimate: 13.6h + 40% = 19 hours.
While this number sounds unrealistic today, given the advances that seem to have been made (may be confirmed by iFixit next week), it doesn't seem that far fetched.
Another point worth noting is the progress in battery capacity Apple seem to have made with the 3rd gen iPad: increased from 25 Wh to 42.5 Wh (+70%).
Granted thickness has increased as well, but that may be due to a thicker LCD panel: in the presentation video, they explain that due to pixels being so tiny and tightly packed, they had to be elevated from the signals layer to avoid interferences.
If they managed to increase battery capacity while retaining the same thickness, I guess we can expect the same kinds of gains in the next MacBooks, bringing battery life to a very rough theoretical of (7h + 1h) + 70% = 13.6 hours.
And that's with the current physical dimensions of the battery. The volume freed by the optical drive equals about 40% of the battery. Adding that to the already increased estimate: 13.6h + 40% = 19 hours.
While this number sounds unrealistic today, given the advances that seem to have been made (may be confirmed by iFixit next week), it doesn't seem that far fetched.
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Second time I'm quoting myself, but in case anybody's interested:
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It turns out, the new battery has (very likely) increased in volume. From this article by AnandTech once again:
So my estimates are completely off
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God I hope this isn't the way it's heading otherwise I've wasted the majority of my education learning something that was being phased out by the time I graduated... FUN.
I don't want to have to use windows anymore.
Interesting, but I think it will be this way:
- Apple drops the 13" MBP
- the MBA become the MacBooks with 11" and 13"
- the MBP 15" and 17" remain Pro-models, but will be thinner, more MBA like
Exactly my thoughts. I am going to wait to see/hear the announcements but a late 2011 15" MBP for $1599 is a good buy.