Another rumor: http://techland.time.com/2012/04/04/after-the-new-macbook-pros-new-core-i5-i7-apple-imacs-incoming/
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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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Tough as ****
Check out this video where zentrose runs over a macbook with his chevy truck. It will make you cringe. Apple is tough as ****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3hmf4W5aY&feature=g-all-u&context=G2742acdFAAAAAAAABAA
Check out this video where zentrose runs over a macbook with his chevy truck. It will make you cringe. Apple is tough as ****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf3hmf4W5aY&feature=g-all-u&context=G2742acdFAAAAAAAABAA
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I have also been wondering about that and I think that globally it may be quite a lot of $ for Apple, even though it's probably not that much of an income per year since a company doesn't update its computers every year. In the case of my company it has been 3 years - we will be swapping 2009 MacPros and old MBPs for 2012 MBPs, high end for high-end models. It will be about 70-100 computers for the Creative and Print departments (the rest of the company uses PCs, mostly Dell for excel and power point. It won't buy Tim Cook a house in Aspen, but if you multiply this number by the number of our branches/divisions (somewhere over 20 in Europe alone) and by the number of other companies that use Macs, then it may be a reasonable amount of money for Apple.
Plus the individual customers, plus schools, so I think it's not that bad with the MBP's profitability.
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I have also been wondering about that and I think that globally it may be quite a lot of $ for Apple, even though it's probably not that much of an income per year since a company doesn't update its computers every year. In the case of my company it has been 3 years - we will be swapping 2009 MacPros and old MBPs for 2012 MBPs, high end for high-end models. It will be about 70-100 computers for the Creative and Print departments (the rest of the company uses PCs, mostly Dell for excel and power point
. It won't buy Tim Cook a house in Aspen, but if you multiply this number by the number of our branches/divisions (somewhere over 20 in Europe alone) and by the number of other companies that use Macs, then it may be a reasonable amount of money for Apple. Plus the individual customers, plus schools, so I think it's not that bad with the MBP's profitability.
I fail to see how Apple could redesign their 15" and then continue to sell the 13" and 17" on the assumption they will upgraded later.
Has this really ever happened? It doesn't seem very Apple. Unless it points to the 13" pro being scrapped, which would be ridiculous considering it's their #1 selling laptop.
Sorry, I'm not buying the Digitimes rumours that we will see an airlike 15" MBP in April/May and then Apple to introduce the 13" Pro in June. If they physically can't make the 13" until June because of Intel delays, then I really do think they'll hold off the entire line for a simultaneous update of all their Pro line.
Still, I think we will see the 35w Quadcore in the 13" debut in April/May like the 15".
Has this really ever happened? It doesn't seem very Apple. Unless it points to the 13" pro being scrapped, which would be ridiculous considering it's their #1 selling laptop.
Sorry, I'm not buying the Digitimes rumours that we will see an airlike 15" MBP in April/May and then Apple to introduce the 13" Pro in June. If they physically can't make the 13" until June because of Intel delays, then I really do think they'll hold off the entire line for a simultaneous update of all their Pro line.
Still, I think we will see the 35w Quadcore in the 13" debut in April/May like the 15".
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Apple can always surprise. Don't assume anything. However, I doubt that will happen. I'm sure all MBP will be updated at once.
Apple can always surprise. Don't assume anything. However, I doubt that will happen. I'm sure all MBP will be updated at once.
When the MBP was first introduced in 2006, it only had the 15" then they added the 17".
Then in 2008, when they redesigned it with the unibody design, they only updated the 15" while still selling the 17" non-unibody version, then a couple of months later, they added the 17" in the new unibody form.
Then eventually, they added the 13" MBP in a unibody form (first 13" MBP) a couple of months after the 17" Unibody was introduced.
I'm not saying they will introduce them separately because obviously the circumstances around this redesign is different, but I wouldn't be that surprised if the 15" was announced before the 13".
2012 Macbook Pro 13
I'm really hoping Apple does the following for the refresh of the MacBook Pro 13" in the coming months.
Would be very interested to hear if other people are thinking the same way as me or think I'm off in dream land.
2012 MacBook Pro 13"
Drop the ODD, HDD
Slim the case down some but not as slim as an Air to allow for high specs (compared to Air) and thermal constraints.
Higher res screen (like current Airs or higher?) - possible anti-glare option
Dual-core Ivy Bridge cpu (lower TDP than Quad-core; as much as I would love the have a Quad I think it will need to remain Dual) and that might allow whats next..
Nvidia GeForece GT 640M (Kelper) - While that might seem like a stretch at first please keep in mind if the thermals are lowered going from Sandy bridge to Ivy in the cpu department, with Kepler gpus have moved down to 28nm from 40nm which should result in lower power use/heat output, and if Apple leaves extra room for more cooling due to HDD and ODD being dropped.. it just might work/happen.
I can see the GPU being dropped if Apple decides to slim it down more like an Air but if they just trim it down a bit, I think they might finally get a dedicated GPU in their 13".
That's my dream machine. Thoughts?
I'm really hoping Apple does the following for the refresh of the MacBook Pro 13" in the coming months.
Would be very interested to hear if other people are thinking the same way as me or think I'm off in dream land.
2012 MacBook Pro 13"
Drop the ODD, HDD
Slim the case down some but not as slim as an Air to allow for high specs (compared to Air) and thermal constraints.
Higher res screen (like current Airs or higher?) - possible anti-glare option
Dual-core Ivy Bridge cpu (lower TDP than Quad-core; as much as I would love the have a Quad I think it will need to remain Dual) and that might allow whats next..
Nvidia GeForece GT 640M (Kelper) - While that might seem like a stretch at first please keep in mind if the thermals are lowered going from Sandy bridge to Ivy in the cpu department, with Kepler gpus have moved down to 28nm from 40nm which should result in lower power use/heat output, and if Apple leaves extra room for more cooling due to HDD and ODD being dropped.. it just might work/happen.
I can see the GPU being dropped if Apple decides to slim it down more like an Air but if they just trim it down a bit, I think they might finally get a dedicated GPU in their 13".
That's my dream machine. Thoughts?
So are you saying we should use an external drive from now on? There's no mention of any internal storage.
These are my thoughts exactly. I feel that Digitimes just spurts off whatever news they hear and use any Intel information as their "upstream sources" to support their bogus speculation. Since the 35W quad core 3612QM hasn't really been talked about anywhere, none of Digitimes's rumors mentions it either. With iPhones being pushed to a fall thing, Apple needs something to push 3rd quarter profits. Thus, it makes a lot of sense to kick off the 3rd quarter (probably right around the financial earnings call) with a MacBook Pro launch. Delaying all the Pros until June would put them in direct competition with the Airs, and staggering the launch would make no sense especially with an AVAILABLE chip to use before then anyway. End of April and May is starting to look better and better for a 13 + 15" MBP launch. The 17" can remain as is for a while, with the excuse that it keeps the ODD as a desktop replacement (it's not all that mobile anyway).
So are you saying we should use an external drive from now on? There's no mention of any internal storage.
..was thinking more of a blade style ssd.
Not much, it's just a compilation of various Digitimes rumors that aren't all especially new. Digitimes has a mixed track record and some of their rumors even contradict each other.
If new 15" MBPs were already being shipped to Apple Stores, it would mean a couple things things:
1) Apple has been incredibly fast at making them and has had an exclusive agreement with Intel to get new IB chips before OEMs.
2) The 15" would be released before the 13"(if any) and new MBAs.
3) They would come with Lion even though Mountain Lion is only a couple months away.
4) There would be no announcement event, only a silent update on their website. Event invitations usually go before they ship products, otherwise it would mean that the Apple Stores would keep them for weeks before selling them, and carry them before they are even announced, which they never do to avoid leaks.
Not that all those are impossible, but considering that MBP redesigns don't happen often, I think they would be more likely to be announced at a media event like last time. It's been 4 years after all. If the iPhone 3GS/4S deserved their own announcement conference, why not laptops with new designs that will last 4 years?
They may wait a bit so they can release the 13" at the same time (if it still exists), or maybe even new MBAs (they announced a spec bump for it too at the 2008 laptop event). Depending on when they plan to release Mountain Lion (June?) they may want to coincide its launch with new hardware so it can come preinstalled on those like they did with Lion and the new MBAs/minis. I doubt an announcement this big will be unnoticed, Apple can't just decide to update their website one day for a major redesign of their best-selling computer which has had the same for 4 years.
I'm not sure they would update all their laptops and their OS at the same time (that seems like a big update), but I'm almost sure they will at least make some sort of announcement event in the near future. So no, I don't believe they are actually shipping new MBPs to Apple stores right now.
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I agree with the above poster. Originally I wanted a 17" Macbook Pro anti-glare but now that the 17" MBPs future is not really known I would rather buy a 15" that's going to get updated within a few months rather than having a discontinued model if Apple drop the 17"; but time will tell. I have 2 thousand UK pounds to spend and I think the 15" will be more portable will we'll see what Apple offers soon.
It happened exactly that way when the unibodies were released, which depending on how you look at it was the last "major" MacBook release as everything since has been spec bumps really.
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I know you're meaning Ivy Bridge here, but if you look back at the Sandy Bridge release, yes Apple did get the processors before everyone else.
2000£ man that is quite hefty. Why not go for a 27" and a MBA 11.6"? that should be the same price or how about a 27" and a iPad?
I'm not sure what i'd want....15 or 13. I guess i'll wait to see the specs.
The 13 doesn't offer the screen space but is perfect for Mobile computing. The 15 though ... can't exactly lie in bed and use it easily.
I don't really want the iMac, I'm getting a 27" Thunderbolt Display and a 15" Macbook Pro soonish but I want the Macbook Pro first; thanks for the suggestion though; I already own an iPad too. Cheers ;D
I hope so, but if that happens will there be any incentive to purchase a 15"?
I can see them not going with a GPU and going for a quad core. All depends how good the intel 4000 is.
I do think that the future is mobile with them selling ACD , it helps with sales and profits which could then justify the GPU...
Hopefully they will go GPU + Quad
I really hope they keep a dedicated graphic card in the 15"; and hopefully it's somewhat powerful. I really need a new laptop and instead of buying a Mac and building a separate pc gaming rig I'd like to have it all in one package. I don't like having separate machines. 15" w/ an external monitor for my gaming needs. Now they just need to hurry up and release the dang things. The longer I wait the more tempting a refurbished 15" is becoming.
Yeeeeesssssss.
We need some credible stuff to start rolling in, though it does feel like things are heating up a bit this week.
Historically MBP launches have been pretty under the radar. No real spy shots, not a lot of leaked info. More FUD (Fear Uncertainty, Doubt) and speculation like you see here. Last year Thunderbolt was the great white hope and IMHO that's been underwhelming as hell.
Frankly I think we're going to see a design change with only a bump to specs and battery longevity, not the segment redefinition many here hope it's going to be. And it makes sense to delay the 13" since it's a big seller and the crossover point between the MBP and the MBA which the 13" may prove to be the vanguard for the "New" Macbook. Pump the 15" out as what is essentially a 15" Air, and merge at the 13" size point. Then they're not delaying the 13" they're refreshing the whole Air line.
I'll bet you the 17" is a much weaker seller than a lot of folks would want to believe. Portable it's not realistically.
but.. i want a 17inch
Ever tried to lug one around? I went from 15" to 13" a while back and just went back to 15". Forgot how much bulkier that bigass laptop is. Don't think I could deal with a 17" at all, but I also commute on a bike with a laptop in a Chrome messenger bag.