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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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I have my 2010 macbook pro 13 inch for sale but I'am thinking of keeping it longer with the rumours of the optical disk drive being removed in the next line up and the fact that i prefer the video card external than inbuilt like the latest mac books.
so before i sell whats the chances of this years model getting a total facelift or is it going slimmer retaining the same design.
so before i sell whats the chances of this years model getting a total facelift or is it going slimmer retaining the same design.
I think it's clear to everyone at this point. That maccat guy got his account banned after posting his blog repeatedly, theartiste(should be a tip off already) is the same dude, just trying to plug his blog by saying mmman i don't know who this dude is but he sure seems smart! I should make 9 replies linking it and no one will know.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
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I have to agree with some of the others, that blog looks like a joke and sounds like a joke, and you know what they say, if something looks the part. If it is yours or anothers its either way pure speculation and could just aswell any macrumors member/newbies post in this thread, to call it analysis is to basically declare yourself less than smart, put mildly.
is it possible we could have quad core processors in the new 13" MBP's?
Is it because of space/heat issues why the current 13" only have dual core?
Maybe with the optical drive removed we could also see a dedicated graphics card? With an SSD this would be a perfect little pro machine!
Is it because of space/heat issues why the current 13" only have dual core?
Maybe with the optical drive removed we could also see a dedicated graphics card? With an SSD this would be a perfect little pro machine!
Currently, it is a space issue preventing the 13" from having quad core or a dedicated card. I'm not sure removing the ODD would make enough space for an additional fan or more heatsink, which are two things I think the 13" would definitely need to keep from going nuclear with a dedicated GPU and/or a quad core processor.
Thanks fot that, I may have to upgrade to a 15" in order to take advantage, as it will be my main machine, and I need a good Video & photo editing machine.
Its just the size/weight of the 13" is perfect for me. But long term id rather make that sacrifice.
But a MBP redesign would almost definitely result in a lighter/thinner design
If you're always chasing the newest processing architecture, you're in a losing race. I want ivy bridge for USB 3.0. Plus I have a 2010 MacBook pro, so I'm missing out on thunderbolt, hd webcam, Sata III and whatever this 2012 version brings. Overall pretty big upgrade for me.A rumor popped up saying June is when the new MBPs will come out. At that point Haswell will only be 8 months around the corner.
A rumor popped up saying June is when the new MBPs will come out. At that point Haswell will only be 8 months around the corner.
8 months is hardly what I would call around the corner. And if history shows anything, it's that delays are highly probable in that 8 month time frame.
My wish list for a 13" MacBook Pro includes:
-Ivy Bridge
-No optical disk drive
-128gb SSD included at the standard price (with 256, 512 at a premium price). But of course you can still have the 500gb, 750gb HDD options too.
-Better screen, at least on par with the MacBook Air 13"/MacBook Pro 15" (1440 x 900 res each). Currently, the 13" has a res of 1280x800.
"Retina-like" screen would be a huge bonus, but not expected this refresh.
If they redesign the casing to make it a little thinner because they were able to exclude the ODD, great. If not, that's OK too.
I like the idea of this slick machine with no moving parts.
I've had a couple of Mac Mini's for 5 years now. I'm excited for my first MacBook. I like that the 15" includes quadcore options, and the better res screen, but it's just too bulky for my needs. Maybe if I go to the store often enough to play with the 15", it'll grown on me.
-Ivy Bridge
-No optical disk drive
-128gb SSD included at the standard price (with 256, 512 at a premium price). But of course you can still have the 500gb, 750gb HDD options too.
-Better screen, at least on par with the MacBook Air 13"/MacBook Pro 15" (1440 x 900 res each). Currently, the 13" has a res of 1280x800.
"Retina-like" screen would be a huge bonus, but not expected this refresh.
If they redesign the casing to make it a little thinner because they were able to exclude the ODD, great. If not, that's OK too.
I like the idea of this slick machine with no moving parts.
I've had a couple of Mac Mini's for 5 years now. I'm excited for my first MacBook. I like that the 15" includes quadcore options, and the better res screen, but it's just too bulky for my needs. Maybe if I go to the store often enough to play with the 15", it'll grown on me.
Apologies if this issue has been brought up already, I haven't read all 55 pages or whatever. I know currently 1TB drives don't TECHNICALLY fit in the current macbook pros, although they do work. Will a thinner form factor MBP be the end of my 1TB drive? If so I'll probably just buy a 2011 model...
I would love a 15" MBA model with Pro options but is it do-able?
otherwise i would gt late 2011 awell
Do you really NEED a 1Tb drive? Like more so than USB 3.0,a higher resolution screen, or an SSD?
So we meet again.
I would have wanted a 1 TB drive in my laptop over ten years ago. Moved around a lot and basically had a duffel bag with clothes and a laptop. This was just after divx rips came out, so hard drives filled up fast as hell and the extensive collection of burned CD's was getting ridiculous... Today, I couldn't really care less as long as I have around 100 gigs to keep the latest photos, a few films and some music, since the rest is on my NAS.
But yeah, some people really do need large internal storage capacity over faster interface, higher resolution or a faster drive. It's like asking if someone really NEED that Ford F250 instead of a Ferrari
Relentless, he is.
I kind of agree about HD space. Aside from those doing photo and video work, are people really filling up their HDs these? I don't even keep a media library anymore. Everything is pretty much streamed. Give me an affordable 256gb ssd option (or the ability to upgrade it myself) and I'll be as happy as can be
Not that me not needing all that space means that no one does, but I expect the demand for HD space will begin to diminish as internet speeds and streaming services continue to improve and the cloud takes over. Most things that still require a ton of space are better served by an external solution anyway.
I kind of agree about HD space. Aside from those doing photo and video work, are people really filling up their HDs these? I don't even keep a media library anymore. Everything is pretty much streamed. Give me an affordable 256gb ssd option (or the ability to upgrade it myself) and I'll be as happy as can be
Not that me not needing all that space means that no one does, but I expect the demand for HD space will begin to diminish as internet speeds and streaming services continue to improve and the cloud takes over. Most things that still require a ton of space are better served by an external solution anyway.
I almost feel like there should be 3 MacBook lines. One for portability (MacBook Air), one for real Pro users (MacBook Pro), and one for prosumers who want more performance than what the MBA offers and want a level of portability in between the current MBA and MBP.
Something like:
MacBook Air:
- 11" and 13"
- ULV dual-core i5/i7 CPUs
- Integrated graphics
- Blade SSD
- Non-upgradeable soldered RAM
- No optical drive
- Super-thin
- Average to good battery life (5-7h)
- Thunderbolt, 2x USB 3.0, SDXC on 13", single audio in/out jack
MacBook:
- 13" and 15"
- LV dual-core i5 CPUs, upgradeable to dual-core i7 on 13", quad-core i7 on 15"
- Integrated graphics, upgradeable to mid-range dedicated graphics
- Blade SSD
- Upgradeable regular RAM
- No optical drive
- Thinness in between current MBA and MBP
- Good battery life (7h)
- Thunderbolt, 3x USB 3.0, SDXC, Ethernet, single audio in/out jack
MacBook Pro:
- 15" and 17"
- LV quad-core i7 CPUs
- Mid-range dedicated graphics, upgradeable to high-end dedicated graphics
- Two 2.5" bays for any configuration of HDD/SSD/ODD
- Upgradeable regular RAM
- Thinness like current MBP
- Excellent battery life (9h)
- Thunderbolt, 3x USB 3.0, FireWire, Ethernet, ExpressCard, audio in and audio out jacks
I know Apple likes to have its product line as streamlined as possible, but that would solve most debates here that seem to resolve a lot around each person's preference for a machine aimed at actual "Pro users" (like the ones who buy Mac Pros) vs people looking for a quality prosumer laptop for everyday use.
I would personally go for a 15" MacBook with quad-core i7 and mid-range dedicated graphics, but those who don't care much about portability and would rather have an ODD/HDD could use a 15" MacBook Pro. I guess people wouldn't complain that way since they would have the choice.
I honestly doubt that would happen though. Just curious to see if that would please most people.
Would you guys be happy with that?
Something like:
MacBook Air:
- 11" and 13"
- ULV dual-core i5/i7 CPUs
- Integrated graphics
- Blade SSD
- Non-upgradeable soldered RAM
- No optical drive
- Super-thin
- Average to good battery life (5-7h)
- Thunderbolt, 2x USB 3.0, SDXC on 13", single audio in/out jack
MacBook:
- 13" and 15"
- LV dual-core i5 CPUs, upgradeable to dual-core i7 on 13", quad-core i7 on 15"
- Integrated graphics, upgradeable to mid-range dedicated graphics
- Blade SSD
- Upgradeable regular RAM
- No optical drive
- Thinness in between current MBA and MBP
- Good battery life (7h)
- Thunderbolt, 3x USB 3.0, SDXC, Ethernet, single audio in/out jack
MacBook Pro:
- 15" and 17"
- LV quad-core i7 CPUs
- Mid-range dedicated graphics, upgradeable to high-end dedicated graphics
- Two 2.5" bays for any configuration of HDD/SSD/ODD
- Upgradeable regular RAM
- Thinness like current MBP
- Excellent battery life (9h)
- Thunderbolt, 3x USB 3.0, FireWire, Ethernet, ExpressCard, audio in and audio out jacks
I know Apple likes to have its product line as streamlined as possible, but that would solve most debates here that seem to resolve a lot around each person's preference for a machine aimed at actual "Pro users" (like the ones who buy Mac Pros) vs people looking for a quality prosumer laptop for everyday use.
I would personally go for a 15" MacBook with quad-core i7 and mid-range dedicated graphics, but those who don't care much about portability and would rather have an ODD/HDD could use a 15" MacBook Pro. I guess people wouldn't complain that way since they would have the choice.
I honestly doubt that would happen though. Just curious to see if that would please most people.
Would you guys be happy with that?
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Apple would make the more portable devices have longer battery life. That is key when selling a portable device. (iPod, iPad,iPhone, MacBook air)
Well it's not like Apple can force Intel to make CPUs with a lower TDP for this year's revision, it's too late. Intel CPUs with the lowest TDP (Atoms aside) are 17W. There's currently no revolution in battery technology, so the only way to extend battery life is to make a physically large battery. There's no way to considerably extend the MBA's battery life yet. If MBPs lose their optical drive/hard drive, it would leave space for a larger battery which is currently the only way to boost battery life considerably.
iPhones and iPads are another story, they use ARM CPUs which are much more efficient but less powerful. ARM-based laptops are something to look into in the future, but this thread is about the 2012 redesign. Obtaining ARM compatibility would mean re-writing major parts of the OS and all applications. Mountain Lion won't support ARM so there won't be ARM-based Macs for at least another year.