That was only because 8GB sticks didn't exist at the time of that documentation. It becomes a question as to whether a 16gb stick would be supported by the new intel chipset.
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That was only because 8GB sticks didn't exist at the time of that documentation. It becomes a question as to whether a 16gb stick would be supported by the new intel chipset.
If Apple adopts the trend of doubling resolution, the 13" MBP will have a 2560x1600 resolution, and the 15", 2880x1800. If Apple adopts 1920x1200 for the 15", it will not be able to keep aspect ratio (and that would not be retina - there are lots of laptops in the market with a 15" and a 1920x1200 resolution, and they're not retina).
That was only done with the iPhone and iPad because iOS apps have their dimensions hard-coded into them. It was necessary to map four pixels of Retina to one non-retina pixel so that older apps would work with the new resolution. This is not true of OS X, and therefore no need to double the resolution.
1920x1200 is the exact same 16:10 ratio that the current MacBooks use.
Sorry if this was already discussed, but say these new Pros are indeed 'Retina' displays.
If I want to play a video game, that sort of resolution might be a waste of power (especially as the machine ages). Can I drop it down to a lower resolution, but still see crisp text? (I'm assuming not since it's not native).
Thanks!
That seems entirely too low. 1920x1200 would likely not be classified as retina as far as Apple's current standards go. In fact, that wouldn't even be much of an upgrade over the 1680 x 1050 resolution.
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It is not guess work, it's Apple's definition. They provided the math at one of their keynotes.
At a viewing distance of 23" one needs a ppi of about 150 dpi to exceed the resolving power of the 'average' human eye. This equates to a resolution of (roughly) 1920x1200 for the 15" MBP.
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/01/retina-display-macs-ipads-and-hidpi-doing-the-math/
According to the math, 1920x1200 on the 17" is already "retina" so that resolution on a 15" would definitely be "retina"
You mean the one that he had to update twice because his test is rubbish? The resolution will most likely be high enough to be over 200 dpi. Not to mention, the screen elements are intended to keep the same size. This is impossible at the resolution you suggest.
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Where did you get your information?
A quick check on www.notebookcheck.net ranks the video cards.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6770M.43955.0.html
The Nvidia GPUs you listed are better than the AMD 6750 which is the video card in the base model macbook pro.
The AMD 6770 is the upgraded GPU and almost all of the Nvidea GPUs you list is better. The GT 635 is slightly behind the 6770.
Nvidia just had a just a die shrink to 28 NM. I was hoping Apple would be switching back to the nvidia chips.
The nvida GT 635 is better than the AMD 6750.
Yes, but what about scaling effects? Unless the resolution is exactly doubled in both dimensions (i.e., 2880 * 1800 pixels on a base 15" MBP), users will be given a choice between squinting at native resolution with tiny text or switching to ugly, sub-native resolutions with readable text. Neither of these two options seems particularly optimal to me.
Yes, but what about scaling effects? Unless the resolution is exactly doubled in both dimensions (i.e., 2880 * 1800 pixels on a base 15" MBP), users will be given a choice between squinting at native resolution with tiny text or switching to ugly, sub-native resolutions with readable text. Neither of these two options seems particularly optimal to me.
to solve this problem, they should just release a standard with 2880 * 1800 on 15" MBP's
easiest solution to me
Here in Portugal, the FNAC store is starting to offer discounted prices on the MBPs. They usually do that before refreshes, so perhaps in 2 or 3 weeks we'll see something new
you have ruined my day/week/month with that statement lol
A 12px font is a 12px font no matter what resolution your display. If you are viewing at a distance where you can't see the pixels in a 12px font then the text is tiny and not enjoyable to read. The only way Apple would make text look sharper while keeping it the same size is to use pixel doubling and hidpi mode, at which point they will market it as retina. They will not bump the resolution marginally and market it as retina.
Don't get your hopes up... nothing before June
Based on the latest facts, my predictions are as follows:
- iMac will be updated (just a spec bump with the new Ivy Bridge processors) in April or May; and
- one of the following: (i) MacBook Air is updated in June, and MacBook Pro is redesigned in September/October; or (ii) MacBook Air and MacBook Pro are both redesigned as a single line of products or as two lines of similar products in June/July.
Wow, you guys in europe sure do pay more than we americans do! For the same products even.. LoL!