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2014-15 NFL season thread

MacNut said:
I think a lot of Brady's talent is masked by Bellicheck. I don't know if he would be as great on another team.
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I am not a Pats fan, but I don't hate them either like I do the Seahawks, but both Brady and Belichick are great at what they do. At least with Belichick you don't have to be young so he will remain a constant as far as his ability. Brady, perhaps the greatest or up there with Montana, Marino, and Manning (all Ms, hmm), can only play for only so long before he's not useable in the NFL. Whether this year or a few years from now is his last, he doesn't have anything left to prove.

Belichick, on the other hand, could keep on working and close in on the all time coaching records like career wins, SB wins, division wins, etc.
 
citizenzen said:
Or is it Brady that makes Bellicheck look better?

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Not trying to make excuses but Seattle was without half it's offensive and defensive line but hey. You gotta win to get back to the Superbowl. Something I don't see Seattle doing this year.

The next few games are gonna be very tough for Seattle to win if they lost to St. Louis.

Oh and congrats to Jacksonville for winning it's first. And against Cleveland too.
 
Peace said:
The next few games are gonna be very tough for Seattle to win if they lost to St. Louis.
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That is just silly. Did you follow the Seahawks at all last year? Easily half their games were really close. They defeated the sad, sad Texans in OT and were also tied at the end of regulation when the pathetic Bucs came to visit. So of course the next few games will be tough to win, it is kind of normal in the league. The difference between top seed and missing the post-season is at least in part a game of chance.

Oh and congrats to Jacksonville for winning it's first. And against Cleveland too.
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So far, the Raiders are still perfect. Here's hoping they can pull out a win today (not likely, but we can dream).
 
Sydde said:
That is just silly. Did you follow the Seahawks at all last year? Easily half their games were really close. They defeated the sad, sad Texans in OT and were also tied at the end of regulation when the pathetic Bucs came to visit. So of course the next few games will be tough to win, it is kind of normal in the league. The difference between top seed and missing the post-season is at least in part a game of chance.



So far, the Raiders are still perfect. Here's hoping they can pull out a win today (not likely, but we can dream).
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Ya I followed them last year.
Last year after 6 games they had 20 takeaways. This year they have 4.

Last year at this time they were 4-1. This year they are 3-3.
 
going for that fake punt was one of the ballsiest regular season calls I've seen. Had they missed it, they would have put SEA in FG range with a chance to win the game by 1 wow. That's one of those plays where if it works you are the praised and revered but if it fails.... oh boy....
 
bigjnyc said:
going for that fake punt was one of the ballsiest regular season calls I've seen. Had they missed it, they would have put SEA in FG range with a chance to win the game by 1 wow. That's one of those plays where if it works you are the praised and revered but if it fails.... oh boy....
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Seattle should've known there was a good chance it was going to be a fake punt. First, with the Austin/Bailey fake PR and for the simple fact, the Rams being 1-4 they had nothing to lose but everything to gain/win. Seattle was just not playing smart football all game. Even if the Rams failed to convert, it wouldn't be as big as the issue of the Rams not being able to play after the half - allowing another team (3 weeks in a row) come back in the second half with a significant lead.

If Seattle got the ball back, there is no doubt that they would've scored a TD, if not a FG at the very least the way they have been playing in the second half.
 
bigjnyc said:
going for that fake punt was one of the ballsiest regular season calls I've seen. Had they missed it, they would have put SEA in FG range with a chance to win the game by 1 wow. That's one of those plays where if it works you are the praised and revered but if it fails.... oh boy....
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Agreed, that was a gutsy call by Fisher.
 
iLog.Genius said:
Seattle should've known there was a good chance it was going to be a fake punt. First, with the Austin/Bailey fake PR and for the simple fact, the Rams being 1-4 they had nothing to lose but everything to gain/win. Seattle was just not playing smart football all game. Even if the Rams failed to convert, it wouldn't be as big as the issue of the Rams not being able to play after the half - allowing another team (3 weeks in a row) come back in the second half with a significant lead.

If Seattle got the ball back, there is no doubt that they would've scored a TD, if not a FG at the very least the way they have been playing in the second half.
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I completely disagree.

A "trick-play" return does not equate to a fake punt within your own 20, up by 2. If it doesn't work, the Seahawks either get a chip-shot FG to take the lead or a TD to take a bigger lead.

You're right in saying they have nothing to lose, but we're getting to a point in the season where a few teams can say the same thing - and you still won't see a call like that under similar circumstances. Definitely a gutsy call and great execution by the Rams.
 
I have to say, kudos to the Rams - The fake punt in the fourth quarter took some guts to do. The punt return was so comical I loved it.

I think Seattle is now seeing that everyone gets up on the champs to knock them off their perch.

On another topic, it seems both Chicago and Cincinnati are imploding.
 
maflynn said:
I have to say, kudos to the Rams - The fake punt in the fourth quarter took some guts to do. The punt return was so comical I loved it.

I think Seattle is now seeing that everyone gets up on the champs to knock them off their perch.

On another topic, it seems both Chicago and Cincinnati are imploding.
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Chicago and Cincinnati are complete disasters this year. Chicago hasn't won at home yet this year.

Dallas on the other hand, is looking pretty legit so far. The running game has been outstanding which takes the pressure off of Romo.

Went to the Broncos game last night and was shocked at how easily they crushed the 49ers. The Broncos defense just dominated the 49ers offense. The 49ers were 3 of 13 on third downs and only had 62 yards rushing. The Broncos sacked Kaepernick 6 times and intercepted him once. While a lot of attention went to Peyton last night, deservedly so, the Broncos defense was the real star of the game in my humble opinion.
 
maflynn said:
On another topic, it seems both Chicago and Cincinnati are imploding.
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Cincinnati is really struggling without AJ Green. Sanu has played well, but he's not the presence Green is. Not sure what's going on in Chicago. They have all the weapons on offense, but there defense is certainly not playing well.
 
Moyank24 said:
I completely disagree.

A "trick-play" return does not equate to a fake punt within your own 20, up by 2. If it doesn't work, the Seahawks either get a chip-shot FG to take the lead or a TD to take a bigger lead.

You're right in saying they have nothing to lose, but we're getting to a point in the season where a few teams can say the same thing - and you still won't see a call like that under similar circumstances. Definitely a gutsy call and great execution by the Rams.
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Yes, I would agree if this was a team who had a legitimate shot at the playoffs/Super Bowl but these are the Rams (well, maybe Belichick would have done the same as well...:D) A trick play is a trick play especially considering this is Jeff Fisher who is known for these types of plays and I believe has done a few already this year and had done so the previous season as well.

Maybe it's because I follow the Rams a lot, but I saw a fake coming - given the situation at the time, Seattle was going to win if they got the ball back so there was no reason for the Rams NOT to try something.
 
Though it was at the expense of my team, I congratulate Peyton on breaking Favre's record. I didn't think this one was remotely possible in a sport that's famous for breaking the bodies of many a QB at an early age.

If only one SB win was keeping some from calling Manning the GOAT, this little record he added on makes a huge case for him. Now if he can only survive what may be another two more seasons and break the all time yards record, there's no doubt he owns the GOAT title.

After he retires and is kicking back with a baseball cap on which has a football logo on it, I wonder if he will be donning a Colts cap or a Broncos cap? I wonder if he will be equally be praised as a Broncos QB. My guess is that he will have to get a Broncos SB win, at least, for that. I still see him as that QB machine breaking 4,000 yards year after year with the Colts and being a postseason mainstay. He may only be remembered for being a Broncos QB just a little to late into his life to win the big one just like Joe Montana was seen as "putting in time" as the Chiefs QB.

If Peyton makes it all the way to the AFC Championship or Super Bowl again and chokes, I won't be surprised and will probably expect that. Same with Brady, too. A Bronco's-Colt's AFC Championship would be epic and one for the ages but with all the inconsistency this year on many teams, I won't hold my breath. As for Super Bowl, I have my doubts about the Niners this year with hobbled D, but the Broncos taking on the Cowboys (especially if they retain strong regular season records) would be a great one and perhaps take in the best ratings.

Also a total redemption for Peyton would be to have a rematch with Seattle and blow them out. It would put legs on his career TDs record and finally make Peyton a multiple SB winner like TB and Eli. But I doubt Seattle right now with already three losses this early in the season.
 
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I don't think the TD record is going to be broken. Peyton has been an exceptional QB for pretty much his entire career throwing an average of 30+ TD a year and then had the benefit of still playing in a league where it became a pass happy/QB-friendly league which definitely helped and supported his style of play. There are only a handful of QB's who can do that each season but eventually, the trend in the NFL is going to change like it always has which is why it will be hard for someone to break his record.
 
citizenzen said:
Every record gets broken eventually.

But I think this one should stand for a long time.
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Especially since Peyton could possibly throw for another 20-30 TDs in the regular season, the Broncos have 10 games left to play. Plus another few in the playoffs, though I'm not sure those count. In addition, what if Peyton comes back again to play next year?

citizenzen said:
I don't see anyone playing currently who can break it.
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Aaron Rogers is the only one currently playing I can see breaking it.

I was at the game last night and they put up an interesting chart on the scoreboard of the top 5 TD passers of all time

Manning 510
Favre 508
Marino 420
Brees 374
Brady 372

I was surprised to see how far down the list Tom Brady is. I thought he would have been higher than that.
 
iLog.Genius said:
I don't think the TD record is going to be broken. Peyton has been an exceptional QB for pretty much his entire career throwing an average of 30+ TD a year and then had the benefit of still playing in a league where it became a pass happy/QB-friendly league which definitely helped and supported his style of play. There are only a handful of QB's who can do that each season but eventually, the trend in the NFL is going to change like it always has which is why it will be hard for someone to break his record.
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wouldn't it be possible then for a young QB who has been playing in the pass happy/QB friendly NFL from the beginning of his career to have a good shot? Like an Andrew Luck for example.... Of course a lot of factors would have to fall in place, like a long consistent career, limited time lost due to injuries, good receivers around him all his career, etc....
 
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