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2014-15 NFL season thread

Moyank24 said:
I don't hate him. I just think he's an ass. Tickets were sold to the media event and the interviews aired all over the place, including the NFL network. Believe me, if nobody watched, they wouldn't make a big deal about it. NFL fans, especially the ones whose team is in a Super Bowl care what these guys have to say. He certainly isn't donating all of the millions he makes to play in the league as protest, is he? As I said before, the NFL has a lot of absolutely stupid rules, but at the end of the day the people who buy jerseys and pay to see him play actually watch these interviews. Answering a few stupid questions is certainly a small price to pay, don't you think?

That said, it certainly doesn't mean he isn't a good player, which is why people want to wear his jersey.

According to the NFL shop, Johnny Manziel has the #3 selling jersey behind Peyton and Rusell Wilson. I guess that means he's awesome and a completely square guy, right? ;)

Also, I don't think you'd ever survive being a Yankees fan. Or a Patriots fan. All of the "hate" might be a bit overwhelming! :D
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I would never survive being a "fan" as you think of a "fan" period.

Let me set a couple things straight.

I do not like the way any football,basketball,baseball. Any sports player gets paid millions of dollars. This includes the brash like Lynch and the glittering smile of Brady.

In my opinion EVERY high paid sports person should NOT be a role model for any child.

Why do people want their child to look up to a person that makes millions of dollars playing a "sport".

I don't buy jerseys,posters or memorabilia .
Watching a game is entertainment. Just like going to a movie. The movie is what attracts me. I couldn't care less about the personal life of the actor.

In essence that is what football players are. Actors.

The NFL Super Bowl Media day is a huge commercial. I see no reason why these players should be forced to go other than to make more money for more millionaires.

If a player doesn't want to go he shouldn't be faced with a $500,000 fine.
 
Moyank24 said:
Am I the only one who thinks Marshawn Lynch is an ass? He's an amazing football player, but still, an ass.

There are a lot of ridiculous rules in the NFL, but if you can't answer normal questions that everyone else in the NFL can answer, you're an ass.

I'm no fan of the Pats, but if Tom Brady pulled that crap, he'd be getting killed from coast to coast.
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Yeah it's getting old
 
Peace said:
I would never survive being a "fan" as you think of a "fan" period.



Let me set a couple things straight.



I do not like the way any football,basketball,baseball. Any sports player gets paid millions of dollars. This includes the brash like Lynch and the glittering smile of Brady.



In my opinion EVERY high paid sports person should NOT be a role model for any child.



Why do people want their child to look up to a person that makes millions of dollars playing a "sport".



I don't buy jerseys,posters or memorabilia .

Watching a game is entertainment. Just like going to a movie. The movie is what attracts me. I couldn't care less about the personal life of the actor.



In essence that is what football players are. Actors.



The NFL Super Bowl Media day is a huge commercial. I see no reason why these players should be forced to go other than to make more money for more millionaires.



If a player doesn't want to go he shouldn't be faced with a $500,000 fine.
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I agree not every athlete should be a role model but I do think they overall deserve to earn a high salary. Relative to the revenue owners pull in athletes deserve to get paid for essentially a hopeful 10-20 years. I think people forget the hard work it takes to really be successful in professional sports. Constant workouts, diets, training, etc all for a small shot of playing in the pros.

I agree about the fines though.
 
Peace said:
I would never survive being a "fan" as you think of a "fan" period.

Let me set a couple things straight.

I do not like the way any football,basketball,baseball. Any sports player gets paid millions of dollars. This includes the brash like Lynch and the glittering smile of Brady.

In my opinion EVERY high paid sports person should NOT be a role model for any child.

Why do people want their child to look up to a person that makes millions of dollars playing a "sport".

I don't buy jerseys,posters or memorabilia .
Watching a game is entertainment. Just like going to a movie. The movie is what attracts me. I couldn't care less about the personal life of the actor.

In essence that is what football players are. Actors.

The NFL Super Bowl Media day is a huge commercial. I see no reason why these players should be forced to go other than to make more money for more millionaires.

If a player doesn't want to go he shouldn't be faced with a $500,000 fine.
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I agree. I don't believe they should be role models either.

The money is a whole other story, though. The NFL is a billion dollar enterprise, so it stands to reason their employees get paid what they do.

I also agree that the Media "day" or week that it has turned into is a huge commercial. However, the NFL is supremely popular, and the more popular it gets the more money they all make, including the millionaire players. That popularity is why someone like Lynch is getting paid 6 million a year. They're not forcing the money on him. He signed that deal knowing full well what was expected.

You're right in that we probably aren't the same type of "fan". My kid is named after a Yankee, and Football sundays at my house are an event. But with the way you're defending some of these guys and getting almost offended when someone criticizes them, you may be more like me than you care to admit (although, frankly I have no problem calling out an ass, even if they're on my team). :D
 
Moyank24 said:
I agree. I don't believe they should be role models either.

The money is a whole other story, though. The NFL is a billion dollar enterprise, so it stands to reason their employees get paid what they do.

I also agree that the Media "day" or week that it has turned into is a huge commercial. However, the NFL is supremely popular, and the more popular it gets the more money they all make, including the millionaire players. That popularity is why someone like Lynch is getting paid 6 million a year. They're not forcing the money on him. He signed that deal knowing full well what was expected.

You're right in that we probably aren't the same type of "fan". My kid is named after a Yankee, and Football sundays at my house are an event. But with the way you're defending some of these guys and getting almost offended when someone criticizes them, you may be more like me than you care to admit (although, frankly I have no problem calling out an ass, even if they're on my team). :D
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Ok. I'll bite :D

Lynch,Sherman and Baldwin are asses in the sense that you phrased it.

The only difference is they are that way in public. They don't hide behind a false persona like Brady or Elway do.

They are themselves . They don't hide it.
I respect that but forcing someone to answer questions if they don't feel like it is wrong. Period.
 
Peace said:
Here's the real Marshawn :

YouTube: video
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I believe this clip is from the ESPN E:60 profile they did of Lynch. The fact that he's willing to do stories like this one show that he is not against all media attention. He does do some good charity work and activities that support youth in his community. I think his aversion to other media is just a way for him to rebel against the authority of the NFL and their media policies.
 
I can't wait for the game to start and even now I don't care who wins. My dislike of Seattle has been turned into the dislike of the media over the hype over the game.

Who the hell fines a player $100,000 for not talking to the media? Where is free speech and can't a player decide not to talk? Who are we, North Korea? Whether it's his fault or not, I think the NFL could do better by getting a new commissioner. What has started as a sport has turned into the most shameful commercialism and symbiotic relationship with the media. Yes, I know it's far bigger and more inflated with football (soccer), and maybe the NFL has taken a page from their book.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if these fines are levied because it is in their contract to talk to the press. Failure to do so, breaks the contract and then they are fined. I would also not be surprised if it is specifically states if the team makes it to the super bowl and your fail to answer questions on media day, there is a fine and a big one at that!
 
63dot said:
I can't wait for the game to start and even now I don't care who wins. My dislike of Seattle has been turned into the dislike of the media over the hype over the game.

Who the hell fines a player $100,000 for not talking to the media? Where is free speech and can't a player decide not to talk? Who are we, North Korea? Whether it's his fault or not, I think the NFL could do better by getting a new commissioner. What has started as a sport has turned into the most shameful commercialism and symbiotic relationship with the media. Yes, I know it's far bigger and more inflated with football (soccer), and maybe the NFL has taken a page from their book.
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Its part of the contract he signed with the NFL to talk to the media. If he's ok with the part of the contract that pays him millions of dollars he should be ok with the part that requires him to talk to the media. Imagine you took a job and part of the requirements were to attend client meetings but after you signed on you decide you don't want to go to the meetings.... What would your employer do? I think you would be on the unemployment line pretty quick

Unless this clown can prove that he has a medical condition which gives him anxiety or something along those lines the NFL should suspend him for being an idiot.
 
63dot said:
I can't wait for the game to start and even now I don't care who wins. My dislike of Seattle has been turned into the dislike of the media over the hype over the game.
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Just count yourself lucky that you are not exposed to newscasters constantly talking about "the twelves". It is getting beaten into dust, like they did to Freebird or Dream On or Stairway to Heaven on AORR.
 
bigjnyc said:
Unless this clown can prove that he has a medical condition which gives him anxiety or something along those lines the NFL should suspend him for being an idiot.
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I have no doubt that Lynch could get a doctor to diagnose him with an Anxiety Disorder and state that the requirement he interact with the media puts undue stress on him. That would actually be a very interesting development if it were to occur.

I think it's just a big "game of chicken". Neither of them is going to back down, in fact they each keep raising the stakes with their behavior. The NFL responds with ever increasing fines and threats while Lynch responds with sarcastic and immature behavior just to exercise his defiance. It's your classic power struggle.

In truth, I kind of see it from both sides. I unerstand the NFL's motive for increasing media hype and as some posters have said, the fans want more access to the players. But, on the other side, I understand the players side of it as well. They just want to play football. A single player isn't a spokesperson for the whole team and they certainly don't always say the best thing. That's why teams hire PR reps and players hire agents. Let the people who are payed to talk do the talking and let the people who are payed to play do the playing.

Another example of the ridiculous media access is the sideline interviews you see with coaches as they are going into and coming out of halftime. Seriously, those are some of the most ridiculous questions ever! "How did you feel when your kicker missed that last second field goal to give you the lead?"; "How did you feel about that call that didn't go your way?"; What do you need to do better in the next half?" You can see the frustration on the coaches faces. It looks like they hate it. To me it's like media trolling and truly how is any of it beneficial?

I know we have a lot of football fans in this thread. How many of you intently watch pre and post game interviews with players? I could care less about what the winning or losing players have to say when the game is over. I know the winners are happy and the losers are not. Is there anything else to know? It makes me wonder how much of the media attention is genuinely meeting fan demand vs. being a manufactured demand by the NFL and the media. Are people really interested and wanting it or is the media trying to make us want it by cramming more and more exposure down our throats. I don't know about you all, but I change the channel or turn the TV off when the game is over. I understand the increased coverage for the Superbowl, but guess what I haven't watched a single bit of it.
 
mscriv said:
I have no doubt that Lynch could get a doctor to diagnose him with an Anxiety Disorder and state that the requirement he interact with the media puts undue stress on him. That would actually be a very interesting development if it were to occur.

I think it's just a big "game of chicken". Neither of them is going to back down, in fact they each keep raising the stakes with their behavior. The NFL responds with ever increasing fines and threats while Lynch responds with sarcastic and immature behavior just to exercise his defiance. It's your classic power struggle.

In truth, I kind of see it from both sides. I unerstand the NFL's motive for increasing media hype and as some posters have said, the fans want more access to the players. But, on the other side, I understand the players side of it as well. They just want to play football. A single player isn't a spokesperson for the whole team and they certainly don't always say the best thing. That's why teams hire PR reps and players hire agents. Let the people who are payed to talk do the talking and let the people who are payed to play do the playing.

Another example of the ridiculous media access is the sideline interviews you see with coaches as they are going into and coming out of halftime. Seriously, those are some of the most ridiculous questions ever! "How did you feel when your kicker missed that last second field goal to give you the lead?"; "How did you feel about that call that didn't go your way?"; What do you need to do better in the next half?" You can see the frustration on the coaches faces. It looks like they hate it. To me it's like media trolling and truly how is any of it beneficial?

I know we have a lot of football fans in this thread. How many of you intently watch pre and post game interviews with players? I could care less about what the winning or losing players have to say when the game is over. I know the winners are happy and the losers are not. Is there anything else to know? It makes me wonder how much of the media attention is genuinely meeting fan demand vs. being a manufactured demand by the NFL and the media. Are people really interested and wanting it or is the media trying to make us want it by cramming more and more exposure down our throats. I don't know about you all, but I change the channel or turn the TV off when the game is over. I understand the increased coverage for the Superbowl, but guess what I haven't watched a single bit of it.
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I agree with you that's totally ridiculous, especially when you have coaches trying to get off the field at halftime and being asked dumb obvious questions by a sideline reporter. However it is in place and in the contract at the moment so he knew this was required when he signed on to be an NFL player...... Now maybe this is something that the players union can make optional in future negotiations, or perhaps the NFL can see how silly it is and make it optional on their own... But as it stands its mandatory and the player knew it before he signed so in that case I have to side with the NFL for now...
 
Moyank24 said:
2 weeks between the AFC / NFC championship games and the Superbowl is just way too long.
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Yes, that is unfortunate, but football must be played on Sunday, for religious reasons: just as some folks see divine images in their tortillas or tires, others see team logos in their pizza boards.

and no wonder I have been confused
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what year was that again?
 
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63dot said:
I can't wait for the game to start and even now I don't care who wins. My dislike of Seattle has been turned into the dislike of the media over the hype over the game.

Who the hell fines a player $100,000 for not talking to the media? Where is free speech and can't a player decide not to talk? Who are we, North Korea? Whether it's his fault or not, I think the NFL could do better by getting a new commissioner. What has started as a sport has turned into the most shameful commercialism and symbiotic relationship with the media. Yes, I know it's far bigger and more inflated with football (soccer), and maybe the NFL has taken a page from their book.
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It's a part of his job. He might be a great guy off the field but he's coming off as a spoiled brat here
 
ucfgrad93 said:
Agreed. If he can do the video that Peace linked to, then he can damn well show up and answer questions for 5 minutes a week.
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Why does your life revolve around one football player ?

Arn't there better things to get upset about ?

and I can guarantee you had this deflate gate thing with the patriots NOT happened Goodall would NOT have put off any potential fine for KLynch. He would already have a huge fine. But because the patriots are under investigation and nothing has happened yet he would look like a hypocrite if he fined him now.
 
Every year there's always some controversy surrounding who gets in the Hall of Fame but this year, I don't really agree with the selection. Of course all the finalists are qualified to be in the HOF but some are just more deserving than others. I don't see how Orlando Pace or Kurt Warner were not first ballot.
 
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