Now you're just being silly. For years, Kraft was besties with Goodell. Now all of a sudden he's a Jets fan?
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Now you're just being silly. For years, Kraft was besties with Goodell. Now all of a sudden he's a Jets fan?
It's not that at all. This whole thing is driven by the fact that Roger Goodell is an imbecile.
It's no secret that Goodell grew up a Jets fan. Nor is it any secret that Mike Kensil is a former Jets executive.
The only thing that's silly is everyone sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring all the evidence that exonerates the Patriots.
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He's a business man who has worked astronomically rich deals for the NFL and its owners..... he has no business ruling over disciplinary matters however I do agree there.... BUT I think he finally got one right, didn't give in to the pressures of Brady being one of the biggest stars in the league and nailed the lying, cheating sack of Sh**
Gotta love the haters. There's no proof of wrongdoing at all and the physical laws of the universe prove the footballs weren't manipulated at all.
But don't let that get in the way of your witch hunt.
Brady and Pats are likely innocent and there should be no suspension.
If somebody did cheat then strip team of win, but if innocent then no suspensions. If guilty of deflate gate don't punish Pats in upcoming year since alleged wrongdoing was in previous season thus stripping of last years Super Bowl is timely and correct punishment, not crippling and possibly wrecking Pats in 2015-16.
NFL has to put up or shut up. IMHO Pats are innocent based on all I have read and next season we should start with clean slate and full teams.
I don't believe in mixing up punishment between seasons and if NFL wants to be lenient then strip just Brady of 4th Super Bowl ring but don't hurt guys like Gronk who didn't have rings before and worked hard w/o cheating.
NFL has to lift upcoming suspension and if they have real evidence then punish based on that year for that year only. Being that this much time has passed and no new evidence other than circumstantial, then it's time to let go. Commissioner needs to go though and when he couldn't find anything it's looks like he hurt NE just to help Jets.
If somebody did cheat then strip team of win, but if innocent then no suspensions. If guilty of deflate gate don't punish Pats in upcoming year since alleged wrongdoing was in previous season thus stripping of last years Super Bowl is timely and correct punishment, not crippling and possibly wrecking Pats in 2015-16.
NFL has to put up or shut up. IMHO Pats are innocent based on all I have read and next season we should start with clean slate and full teams.
I don't believe in mixing up punishment between seasons and if NFL wants to be lenient then strip just Brady of 4th Super Bowl ring but don't hurt guys like Gronk who didn't have rings before and worked hard w/o cheating.
NFL has to lift upcoming suspension and if they have real evidence then punish based on that year for that year only. Being that this much time has passed and no new evidence other than circumstantial, then it's time to let go. Commissioner needs to go though and when he couldn't find anything it's looks like he hurt NE just to help Jets.
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Loyalty is a great attribute but should never cloud justice.
Goddell didn't find sh@@ so he thought he could help the team that gave him his start (as intern for NY Jets), and those who knew little re football still saw this.
On loyalty I fiercely defend my family but in law was chief atty on case that took down Barry Bonds and many others. But chief atty didn't hit team he was associated with nearly as much (as key man in Red Sox organization while prosecuting dopers mostly on other teams and negative focus on NY) and everybody saw this.
When pointed out I was personally ashamed almost as if I did sneaky move.
Yes I am a SF and Bonds fan but going overwhelmingly against him (by chief atty) was a witch hunt, same as against the qb who plays against Jets who happen to have connection with NFL head.
Folks the real cheater who has been proven to be rotten here is Goddell, not Brady.
Goddell didn't find sh@@ so he thought he could help the team that gave him his start (as intern for NY Jets), and those who knew little re football still saw this.
On loyalty I fiercely defend my family but in law was chief atty on case that took down Barry Bonds and many others. But chief atty didn't hit team he was associated with nearly as much (as key man in Red Sox organization while prosecuting dopers mostly on other teams and negative focus on NY) and everybody saw this.
When pointed out I was personally ashamed almost as if I did sneaky move.
Yes I am a SF and Bonds fan but going overwhelmingly against him (by chief atty) was a witch hunt, same as against the qb who plays against Jets who happen to have connection with NFL head.
Folks the real cheater who has been proven to be rotten here is Goddell, not Brady.
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Where are the ballboys and why are they still suspended by the Pats?
Now that's approaching conspiracy theory, don't you think. Let's think this one out.
Wouldn't that make them (ball handlers) mad enough to turn in Brady? How come they didn't speak out? If they have real evidence press would easily make ball handler millionaire and it would be biggest NFL story of that year.
Here's the hard fact that during last season the Pats bested NYJ even though there were years when Jets bested Pats but that's football.
Why is it that Jets fans think Brady cheated and nobody else? Just look all over threads.
You can say I am defending Pats because they took down the Seahawks but honestly I am only happy when my beloved Niners beat Seahawks and don't care with other games Seahawks play.
Yes SF was awash in Pats uniforms that day, and it helps that Brady is well known SF area boy with house here, but I root for Niners to win, not root against teams that bested us. I am not a sore loser. Seattle has some jerks but they were and are better than Niners.
And I will admit that not only are the Seahawks better than Niners and Pats but that they are current and next big NFL dynasty. I think NE got lucky at end but it's still a Pats win and there still no evidence so NFL should lift ban.
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I hope you are joking.
Look at the irony. How does it look when NY fans accuse people of getting whacked when it comes to Boston when NY wrote the book on making people disappear?
One of the testimonies during Hoffa disappearance puts his body as being buried at NY Giants stadium.
Look at the facts of what they are, not what you want them to be. I have no dog in this fight so it's easy for people not associated with Jets or Pats or Seahawks to see.
Goodell most likely went against Pats according to many because he got his first real job in NFL with NY Jets. NY Jets vs. Pats is one of the key rivalries in football and ranks up there with Dallas versus Washington.
It's not a stretch to see Goodell going against Pats, even without real damning evidence. Goodell feels some sort of loyalty of Jets intern position that got him into NFL. This pro-Jets loyalty is exactly why he should not be in top position. From now on future commissioners should not have any NFL team on their resume to keep things as fair as possible. NFL commissioner is a big job with a lot of power.
Also just because loudmouth Seahawk's star Richard Sherman says Kraft and Goodell are buddies is not evidence of anything and Sherman kept on this until punishment was sought and doled out taking the Patriots down a notch for 2015-16.
Goodell is friends with other team heads, too. The only realistic loyalty you can see here is Goodell being partial to Jets and if that means taking Pats down a notch, then so be it.
Goodell doesn't care about what is right and only wants to win this fight against Brady. Goodell is shamed because he couldn't find evidence on his accusations and instead of admitting he was wrong in this witch hunt against Brady, Goodell continues to shame league with his enormous ego:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/the...candal-is-about-anymore-is-roger-goodells-ego
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I have seen no pro-jets loyalty from Goodell.
And it's pretty ego-centric of Jets fans to think that Brady being suspended only helps them out.
And it's pretty ego-centric of Jets fans to think that Brady being suspended only helps them out.
LOL this is crazy ridiculous, especially when Goodell knew that Brady was going to take this to court. I have to imagine they feel like they have enough to present in court.
Goodell has shown that the only thing he is loyal to is $$$. And making $$$ for the league. It's hard to imagine that he would purposely manufacture a case against the face of the league, and one of the most popular teams in the league, just because he wants the Jets to have a chance. You can't actually believe that, can you? I mean, I think Goodell is a jackass, but this is just paranoid, tin foil hat, crazy talk.
Now that is just silly. Thats like saying Player X grew up rooting for the Jets all his life, but was drafted by the Patriots so he fumbled on purpose during a big game because he still felt loyal to the Jets.... I'm sure the minute Goodell became commisioner any loyalties went out the door.
What really happened here was that he had a few of the more influential owners in his ear telling him to uphold the suspension... That's where his loyalties lie since they write his checks.
What Jets fan has said that? It was a Patriots fan who brought the Jets into this.
The only thing that will help the Jets is a franchise QB, and I don't see Goodell handing us one anytime soon.
Sorry, were they a patriots fan? That's even worse. Why think that gives only the Jets a chance?
So now Goodell has something against the Jets? Now that is crazy ass tin foil hat stuff.
Like the link I posted, http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/07/the...candal-is-about-anymore-is-roger-goodells-ego , it's so evident Goodell has it in for Brady. Brady may be a spoiled prima donna or blame others when he flubs up and yell at others, and so on and so forth, but of all bad things he is, he's not a cheater.
Goodell's key job is to be impartial and this is (above article) seems more like having a vendetta against the Pats.
Goodell either needs to strip Brady and/or Pats of SB, or let them off. You are either guilty or innocent, not kind of guilty. It's because Goodell has nothing that he persists, but right move would be to say that there's not enough evidence so Brady and Pats are innocent. That's how it's supposed to work.
Let's say it's thought a certain unpopular neighborhood perp may have robbed a store but there's no evidence. It's like the judge/jury saying that since the alleged perp is a mean jerk of a guy though they don't have anything on him in the store robbery, they are still going to give perp community service. Either the perp did it and the evidence is there, or there is not enough evidence. Based on evidence perp either goes to jail or walks. Goodell needs to put up or shut up.
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Where did I say Goodell has something against the Jets?
Also, the Jets are playing the Pats in week 7 and 16. If Goodell really wanted to help them, he would have suspended him for the entire season....
Where did I say Goodell has something against the Jets?
Also, the Jets are playing the Pats in week 7 and 16. If Goodell really wanted to help them, he would have suspended him for the entire season....
Suspension of Brady for one or more games in next season doesn't make sense.
What he allegedly did was last season so take away his ring or fine him heavily for that if there's any real evidence found. If evidence shows up tomorrow, like a call or text on cloud/hard drive of his phone carrier (this can be done as it's all in cloud as shown in nude pix scandals recently) then I will be all for taking away Brady's ring and if more implicated then the whole team ala Black Sox type scandal and punishment. Take away rings/title and ban said players and/or coaches for life.
But since the ill placed suspension is probably on, my guess is that the Jets will be helped somewhat but enough to make the Patriots not make the playoffs. I don't see the Pats winning more than one in those first four games. And then after that, an old Tom Brady has to get into rhythm and take his team to the playoffs? Not likely, even for great QBs in their physical prime. Jets and others in AFC East got handed a gift not unlike Russell Wilson's bad pass in Super Bowl.
The Pats have been dealt a bad hand for coming season and they are entering this season with something akin to a hand being tied behind their back.
If Pats and/or Brady did cheat and solid evidence comes up, I will call for harsher penalties than anyone here and hopefully, or as soon as I hear it, be the first on this thread to mention that. I will admit I was fooled and believed Brady when I shouldn't have.
But until that evidence is put forth, I stand behind Brady and the Pats. I am going to look online and sign a petition to lift ban on 2015-16 Pats if such a petition exists.
But until that evidence is put forth, I stand behind Brady and the Pats. I am going to look online and sign a petition to lift ban on 2015-16 Pats if such a petition exists.
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