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A great result for Lewis. He was fastest all weekend and deserved the win.
Nico's moaning just shows how frustrated he is. There was no way Lewis was backing him up to Vettel. The team asked him to race to a time to save the tyres and he nailed it to a tenth. If Nico didn't like it he should just have raced harder. Last year he was the man when it came to qualifying, but this year he doesn't even have that.
Good to see the Ferraris keeping the Mercs in check. Not quite there, but the best of the rest by quite a margin.
Lots of overtaking throughout the field as well.
Sadly we were robbed of a grandstand finish after the marshals failed to negotiate a tight turn! Was quite humorous to watch.
Nico's moaning just shows how frustrated he is. There was no way Lewis was backing him up to Vettel. The team asked him to race to a time to save the tyres and he nailed it to a tenth. If Nico didn't like it he should just have raced harder. Last year he was the man when it came to qualifying, but this year he doesn't even have that.
Good to see the Ferraris keeping the Mercs in check. Not quite there, but the best of the rest by quite a margin.
Lots of overtaking throughout the field as well.
Sadly we were robbed of a grandstand finish after the marshals failed to negotiate a tight turn! Was quite humorous to watch.
New F1 site: Atrocious. Even worse than before if it's possible.
I thought it was pretty obvious he was pushed Nico back. As soon as they threatened him he pulled in 3 seconds per lap quicker? Yeah that's not intentional all... I know you're a Hamilton fan, but c'mon - that's dirty driving. Were the shoe on the other foot, you know? He is such a poor sport it sucks some of the fun out of watching.
I was also pleased to see the McLarens do as well as they did; They seem to be getting rid of gremlins and upping the power. That radio call from Raikonnen was funny too, esp given his usual lack of emotion.
I don't understand this reasoning, really. Alonso made a move based on personal reasons and previous history - Honda has experience in F1, and McLaren-Honda is perhaps the greatest combination in the sport. And for the troubles they've had, any F1 fan knows no team gets it together the first time out. Ever. Even Mercedes was lousy the first two or three years and look where they are now. You can't blame him for the choice he made; had McLaren blasted to the front on Day One the same people would be praising him for a brilliant move. It's silly to criticize him this early on.
I thought it was pretty obvious he was pushed Nico back. As soon as they threatened him he pulled in 3 seconds per lap quicker? Yeah that's not intentional all... I know you're a Hamilton fan, but c'mon - that's dirty driving. Were the shoe on the other foot, you know? He is such a poor sport it sucks some of the fun out of watching.
I was also pleased to see the McLarens do as well as they did; They seem to be getting rid of gremlins and upping the power. That radio call from Raikonnen was funny too, esp given his usual lack of emotion.
I don't understand this reasoning, really. Alonso made a move based on personal reasons and previous history - Honda has experience in F1, and McLaren-Honda is perhaps the greatest combination in the sport. And for the troubles they've had, any F1 fan knows no team gets it together the first time out. Ever. Even Mercedes was lousy the first two or three years and look where they are now. You can't blame him for the choice he made; had McLaren blasted to the front on Day One the same people would be praising him for a brilliant move. It's silly to criticize him this early on.
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No grandstand finish. When the cars are paired (2x Merc, 2 x Ferrari, 2 x any same team cars) cannot get close due to dirty air, so it was always going to be the running order is the finishing order
New F1 site: Atrocious. Even worse than before if it's possible.
I thought it was pretty obvious he was pushed Nico back. As soon as they threatened him he pulled in 3 seconds per lap quicker? Yeah that's not intentional all... I know you're a Hamilton fan, but c'mon - that's dirty driving. Yep Were the shoe on the other foot, you know? He is such a poor sport it sucks some of the fun out of watching.
I was also pleased to see the McLarens do as well as they did; They seem to be getting rid of gremlins and upping the power. That radio call from Raikonnen was funny too, esp given his usual lack of emotion.
I don't understand this reasoning, really. Alonso made a move based on personal reasons and previous history - Honda has experience in F1, and McLaren-Honda is perhaps the greatest combination in the sport. And for the troubles they've had, any F1 fan knows no team gets it together the first time out. Ever. Even Mercedes was lousy the first two or three years and look where they are now. You can't blame him for the choice he made; had McLaren blasted to the front on Day One the same people would be praising him for a brilliant move. It's silly to criticize him this early on.
So, is this a constructors championship? Its certainly not a drivers championship. Its a "got the right or wrong car championship" So, forget Mercs team, nothing to see there, Lewis gets favoured, thats another championship on a platter. Vettel/ Kimi with a watch, the other teams worth a watch, but this isnt a championship season, its mini races.
I'm not sure I understand the Lewis hate. They both have identicle cars, yet he was fastest in every session and ultimately won the race.
When he was in tyre saving mode (which given the last race, was a very sensible thing to do) he ran to a time that the team gave him. Now if Nico had been all over his tail racing him, then it would be a different story. He was 4 seconds back and that's an age in F1.
As for Alonso, he took a decision to move based on what he felt was right. Clearly he's not been happy at Ferrari for a while. Even if Vettel ultimately ends up second or third in the championship, he still hasn't really lost anything. He has stated he only wants to win another title. Obviously he won't do that this year at McLaren Honda, but next year? Who knows!
When he was in tyre saving mode (which given the last race, was a very sensible thing to do) he ran to a time that the team gave him. Now if Nico had been all over his tail racing him, then it would be a different story. He was 4 seconds back and that's an age in F1.
As for Alonso, he took a decision to move based on what he felt was right. Clearly he's not been happy at Ferrari for a while. Even if Vettel ultimately ends up second or third in the championship, he still hasn't really lost anything. He has stated he only wants to win another title. Obviously he won't do that this year at McLaren Honda, but next year? Who knows!
Last year Ferrari and McLaren were poor, either of them could have gone to another poor team, or one, or both went to team that made great progress. I don't blame either, Alonso just drew the short straw. In fact, a new car, from a past successful Honda was a likely better option to succeed then ferrari who could easily have just improved a bit, but not been at the pointy end
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Rosberg was about a few inches from pole, had he got pole, led, then backed up Lewis, using the same tactic, Lewis would have said "fair play"?
In any case the title is concluded, Mercedes will win, Lewis will win his title, again, a foregone conclusion that is known at seasons start. Ups to Mercedes, but a drivers title of a field if two, is hardly breaking news, especially as he is the favoured one. Ferrari's progress will be interesting, RBR progress will be interesting, same with McLaren Honda, and a few fights in the middle with Williams, RBR, etc. Not much to see up front though. And no, its not Lewis hate, its just the artificial way Mercedes is running. Now, I am an RBR fan, and you could say, what about when RBR won everything? Not the same. Their car was slow then, they made the best of a slow top end car, great chassis, etc and pulled it off. They weren't running on an 100 extra HP
Pretty sure Ferraris are as fast in a straight line these days depending on what drag they decide to run.
Also if it was just about the power house wouldn't Williams and Lotus be challenging for the lead?
Either way I think it's too early to say Lewis will win the championship. There's a lot of miles before then.
I don't hate him, and he is a good driver; But his behavior and the favoritism is painful to watch. He's a good driver, but he's a lousy sportsman.
By the same token, it's completely ridiculous to suggest that Mercedes - or any team - should be hobbled just because RBR, or any team, isn't doing well. They have a formula, and they work within the confines of that formula. Some teams do well, some don't. RBR buying Renault engines isn't anyone's fault but their own.
2015 Formula 1 Thread
A good drive by Lewis, totally controlled and never any doubt he was going to win. It's good to see him approaching this season by putting Nico in his place too. Reminds me so much of the greats of the past and Lewis handled Nico well in China I felt. I can understand why he's upset, but he needs to do his talking on track and beat Lewis rather than acting hard done by. He would look a better sportsman as a result.
Great to see Verstappen show potential, he is definitely one to watch! Come on McLaren too! Develop that car and give the awesome Alonso the machinery he deserves before he gets too old. As fans we need it! lol an enjoyable race
A good drive by Lewis, totally controlled and never any doubt he was going to win. It's good to see him approaching this season by putting Nico in his place too. Reminds me so much of the greats of the past and Lewis handled Nico well in China I felt. I can understand why he's upset, but he needs to do his talking on track and beat Lewis rather than acting hard done by. He would look a better sportsman as a result.
Great to see Verstappen show potential, he is definitely one to watch! Come on McLaren too! Develop that car and give the awesome Alonso the machinery he deserves before he gets too old. As fans we need it! lol an enjoyable race
Straight line speed isn't as important. the chassis is, RBR has a great chassis as does Mercedes.
Lewis will win as only him or Rosberg can. Lewis is favoured, and he is a marginally better driver. h'es great in front as is Rosberg, he fails under pressure though, that's why pole is crucial to Rosberg. I've just seen too many races where the strategy seperates them, and Rosberg always loses out in a big way
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Yep. RBR won 4 titles with Renault, and without an engine that is 100bhp better than most others. Like Ferrari last year as well, RBR are on a downside, no worries. They were poor alst year, slow, but still was the only non merc winner, and 2nd in Constructors, thats pretty darn good for a failure year.
You're not the only one to notice; I've caught it, and a couple other friends who follow F1 have mentioned it too. If one strategy does considerably better it almost always plays into Lewis' hands. Rosberg is too fair of a sportsman to just quit but I wouldn't blame for it. It's no surprise Lewis wins more; Mercedes isn't a team that pushes both drivers - they're a team that's 100% behind Lewis with Rosberg as a back up.
Not good enough for the arrogant SOB that is Mateschitz.
Speaking of slower teams... I'm surprised with how well the McLarens are doing in the twists and turns; they obviously lose out on the high powered tracks, but Alonso's one stint in China showed the potential of the car, too. Despite the naysayers they're doing pretty well with the car considering. Red Bull just seems like they've gone backwards this year... Even Ricciardo... he was so promising last year.
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i can only speak for myself on this, but, i expected mcclaren/honda to struggle, only not like they have so far! they are much worse off than i thought they'd be.
McLaren is artificially slow, their power pack is heavily turned down. Rumours of 50% in Melbourne. So, if they turned it to normal, it would probably be a bit competitive, or a lot competitive, who knows, but they want reliability first. They have stated that they will turn it up more in Bahrain. I'd say they have plenty of speed, its basically enforced sandbagging. Maybe they will just turn it to full before long, and endure penalties if they lose engines. I'd do that. If the money was there, show the pace and lose engines would allow a faster sort out of the issues that get exposed.
So had mixed results in practise, so hopefully that means we will have a closer race. Of course you never quite know what fuel people are running, or how much extra power was turned down.
Either way I'm expecting a Mercedes 1-2 today, then a closer race with the Ferraris tomorrow. Would love to see the Ice man on the podium!
Hopefully the McLaren's can continue to improve. I heard they had their engines turned way down due to reliability issues in the last race. Hopefully they get permission to go 100% this week!
Either way I'm expecting a Mercedes 1-2 today, then a closer race with the Ferraris tomorrow. Would love to see the Ice man on the podium!
Hopefully the McLaren's can continue to improve. I heard they had their engines turned way down due to reliability issues in the last race. Hopefully they get permission to go 100% this week!
Agreed. Let's all be honest with ourselves. McLaren is not actually racing at this point. I'm hoping they up the power by COTA.
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I think McLaren is putting on an outwardly disappointed face, but internally they are happy to finish.
this is gonna be another boring predictable year. nico doesn't know how to drive wheel to wheel nor does he know how to overtake lewis.
i find the situation in china funny since isn't his goal to past lewis? yet when he gets close to lewis hes telling the team to get lewis to go faster?
unless ferrari manage to get another 50hp and mercedes's margin managed to disappear. lewis is going to win again.
i find the situation in china funny since isn't his goal to past lewis? yet when he gets close to lewis hes telling the team to get lewis to go faster?
unless ferrari manage to get another 50hp and mercedes's margin managed to disappear. lewis is going to win again.
Well Vettel has split the Mercades in qualifying! Given they have better race pace than qualifying (normally) we could have a real race on tomorrow. Nico again had no answer, but I supose it will be because he didn't have the same car rather than he just isn't as good as Lewis!
Great to see Alonso in Q2, but poor old Jenson has only managed 17 laps all weekend so far. Come on McLaren, sort it out!
Great to see Alonso in Q2, but poor old Jenson has only managed 17 laps all weekend so far. Come on McLaren, sort it out!
I was amped to see Alonso make into Q2 too. Jenson - poor Jenson - could have been there if not for reliability. But out-qualifying a Red Bull? I mean it is Kvyat, but still.
By the same token, I was glad to see Ferrari pushing Mercedes, and really nice to see Raikonnen more on form this year. I'm not crazy about either team, but it is really, really super fun to see an actual competition this year, instead of another "ho-hum who's the best of the rest" 2014 repeat. The Willies need to get their act together and join them. With McLaren down for the count so far seeing Sir Frank's team up there is the next best thing. Or Lotus, but not much hope for that... :/
Nico didn't have a good answer because there's nothing to say; Lewis is the team favorite. F1 is a hugely psychological sport; he did notably better than Hamilton last year until the team publicly hobbled him, and with Lauda's very public criticisms I'm sure it doesn't do much to help him focus.
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Last season, there was little between Hamilton and Rosberg, plenty of time Hamilton cracked under pressure. Now, I reckon he has broken Nico, just as Vettel broke Webber. Nico has to just get on with it, but he may try too hard, often trying too hard means you run slower lap times, or he will race on the edge, and crash. But looks like a lively race, Ferrari will hopefully have race pace
What a thriller! Hamilton shows again why he is the man, even when Nico got the advantage of the undercut. Great to see Kimi on the podium too. Back where he belongs. Bottas did a great job of keeping Vettel at bay.
Unfortunately Alonso didn't quite make the points, but 11th was a great result. Shame to see Button not even start. Really hope he's had all his bad luck in the same weekend.
Glad to see two teams mixing it up each week. Just need Williams to get a few upgrades to, and we might get three teams capable of winning.
Unfortunately Alonso didn't quite make the points, but 11th was a great result. Shame to see Button not even start. Really hope he's had all his bad luck in the same weekend.
Glad to see two teams mixing it up each week. Just need Williams to get a few upgrades to, and we might get three teams capable of winning.
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Okay really pleased to see Alonso put in another great drive; two stops and dueling a bit with Williams... really would love to see reliability improve and Honda ramp up the power.
Despite McLaren Honda failing to get Button going, this partnership is improving and I expect good things from them going forward.
Okay really pleased to see Alonso put in another great drive; two stops and dueling a bit with Williams... really would love to see reliability improve and Honda ramp up the power.
i'd also like the new f1 site to be a little easier to navigate...
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