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2015 MLB Season Thread
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He's not exactly NEW. Sure, he doesn't have enough ABs to not be considered a rookie but he was up with the team last year. I know the organization likes him and he's showed some promise.
Oh, magic number? MOOKIE!
Giants are still alive for last spot in NL. If we don't get it nobody will say we couldn't string two good seasons together.
2011 after our 2010 WS run was awful and we finished 8 games behind first place Arizona.
2013 after our 2012 WS run was even worse and we finished 16 games back and didn't even do .500
So for 2015 we made at least .500 and if we beat LA and get division, it will also be because LA loses the last seven games of the season and Giants win six or seven of remaining seven games. If we don't get it but pick up a few more, we won't be 8 games back like in 2011 and thus not a post WS year disaster.
2011 after our 2010 WS run was awful and we finished 8 games behind first place Arizona.
2013 after our 2012 WS run was even worse and we finished 16 games back and didn't even do .500
So for 2015 we made at least .500 and if we beat LA and get division, it will also be because LA loses the last seven games of the season and Giants win six or seven of remaining seven games. If we don't get it but pick up a few more, we won't be 8 games back like in 2011 and thus not a post WS year disaster.
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Sadly, we have to complete a 4 game sweep against the Dodgers this week to stay alive, and to keep our hated rivals from clinching the division on our home field. The first two games will be pitched by Greinke and Kershaw, so I don't expect the sense of drama to linger too long.
This season reminds me of 2011. Good team, but far too many injuries to overcome.
I'll be rooting for the Pirates in the playoffs.
It's not easy to beat Dodgers but earlier in season we did them in. The Pirates are easy to root for especially with Ishikawa. The Cubs or Cardinals look strong as well as KC.
OK, nobody is going to mistaken us for the 90s Yankees dynasty, but if we are to get on same level of respect of best dynasty in recent times then we have to sweep Dodgers these next four games en route to another World Series title. Even then if we did it all again the total would be 4 in 6 years, not the phenomenal 4 in 5 years the Yankees did it. Due to so many great players team hopping, and the relatively short lifespan of most great pitchers if even on the same team, it's safe to say no team will ever go 4 for 5 again.
A win over Zack today will be a big boost for us and we need no less than six of next seven even to consider a postseason. That's also assuming Dodgers will have a slump this entire week.
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are you really that worried if we aren't recognized as a dynasty?
and what of scutaro*? where is he? the good news is we have had several rookies come in this season and really provide some punch.
*answered my own question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Scutaro
and what of scutaro*? where is he? the good news is we have had several rookies come in this season and really provide some punch.
*answered my own question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Scutaro
I think we are a great dynasty though not as dominant as local A's who pulled off a rare sports threepeat in 1972-74.
It would just be nice to string two strong years together even just WS followed by getting stopped in following postseason.
We don't have to repeat in a dynasty like 90's Yankees or football's 2001-2004 New England Patriots, but it would be nice.
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About last night at least we went over .500 and got past the best NL pitcher. It's still a huge battle just on our side having to sweep LA in next three games and winning next series with at least two out of three. This has to happen with LA also having to lose two out of last three after SF game so. We got a lot of help from our two Red Sox guys, pitcher Jake Peavy and outfielder Alejandro De Aza. Peavy dominated and De Aza hit a sac fly walk-off in the 12th.
Let's hope since LA has lost 8 out of the last 10, and lost 4 in a row, that this is a September slump for them. It can happen to anybody and this can give us a sliver of a hope for winning NL West.
These are the longest odds headed into postseason that this current dynasty has had to face. If we get in we will have the boost of knowing how to do it as a new mini season, clean slate and all, with a manager who can iron out the minute by minute details the postseason throws at us.
Just get in.
Statistically, last night's win got us from under 1/2 of 1% percent possibility to almost a full percent so Giants went to 1% and LAD is a 99% in postseason probabilities. We were at zero for some time now and if we can get past Kershaw tonight, I feel like there's some hope.
But when any team has lost 8 of 10 like the Dodgers, a team tends to right themselves from such a bad slump and all they need is a win in next three games to win division outright.
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i really really REALLY want to see the twins get the wildcard, what a turnaround theyve had after the last four years now that they have paul molitor at the helm. but damn, every single time they win, so does houston. its immensely frustrating, they cant get better than half a game out, no better than 1 game out more recently
Twins have long odds to go all the way, but at least they are on list. That would be a great run: (from a WS odds site)
Odds to Win 2015 World Series (11/1/15)
Team Odds
Toronto Blue Jays 4/1
Kansas City Royals 9/2
New York Mets 11/2
Los Angeles Dodgers 6/1
St. Louis Cardinals 6/1
Texas Rangers 8/1
Pittsburgh Pirates 10/1
Chicago Cubs 12/1
New York Yankees 17/1
Houston Astros 25/1
Los Angeles Angels 30/1
Minnesota Twins 60/1
Cleveland Indians 200/1
Odds to Win 2015 National League Pennant (11/1/15)
Team Odds
Los Angeles Dodgers 9/4
New York Mets 9/4
St. Louis Cardinals 9/4
Pittsburgh Pirates 5/1
Chicago Cubs 11/2
Odds to Win 2015 American League Pennant (11/1/15)
Team Odds
Toronto Blue Jays 9/5
Kansas City Royals 2/1
Texas Rangers 3/1
New York Yankees 8/1
Houston Astros 12/1
Los Angeles Angels 12/1
Minnesota Twins 25/1
Cleveland Indians 100/1
for sure, i dont think anyone is expecting them to get far in the playoffs, but id just like to have that excitement again. im sure they would lose the 1 game playoff to the yankees if they got the wildcard, lol.
a shame ervin santana is ineligible for postseason play due to the PED issues; considering that cost him the first half of the season, who knows where we would be right now if he had been able to play all year, finally a starting pitcher worth watching.
a shame ervin santana is ineligible for postseason play due to the PED issues; considering that cost him the first half of the season, who knows where we would be right now if he had been able to play all year, finally a starting pitcher worth watching.
Giants were at 60/1 last year and had to travel for wildcard to the Pirates. Somehow Giants won but then tore through entire postseason when all eyes were on LA (who won the NL West division that year). Anything can happen, and while it usually doesn't, those few times where odds are damned makes this a fun sport. I think other 60/1 teams late in season have also gone all the way. Here are the weakest teams to win it all:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...lb-teams-ever-to-win-the-world-series/page/11
but if we win it all it will still look like we squeked through to most people. so i'm not worried about anyone calling it a dynasty. my team would simply be champs... AGAIN!!
I guess only 2012 with our 94 wins, and 8 beyond 2nd place Dodgers in NL West, and sweep of Detroit in WS was our only dominant showing. 2010 was a disaster for our hitters overall, and 2014, other than Bumgarner, wasn't SF pitching at their best. Why can't we have both at the same time, but if that were the case we would be the New York Yankees.
The Yankees have a slim shot at the division but I don't see them catching Toronto. They will most likely play Houston in the play in game.
It's hard, I know but I still respect LA.
It makes the 3 World Series that much sweeter that we had to battle against their insane rotation so much yet still made postseason those three years and then took it all the way. Actually I also like that we have to go against teams like St. Louis, too.
Twins have a reported 1 in 100 chance just to make postseason, and much less of a chance to win it all, and that's if they win both games remaining giving them 85. But at the same time Houston has to lose both remaining leaving them at 85, and if the Angels win one and lose one, they will be at 85. Three teams will be at 85 in this scenario.
But if Houston wins then the Twins are out. If the Angels win two, then Minnesota is out.
Today, and maybe tomorrow could be very interesting for fans in Minnesota.
This could possibly be the most gruesome path for the Twins to get into the ALDS. If things go right but there's a three way tie then,
1) Wild Card Twins visit Wild Card Team A (Houston) for first tiebreaker game
2) Twins, if they win, hosts Wild Card Team B (Angels) for second tiebreaker game
3) Twins play New York at Yankees Stadium if then win second tiebreaker game
4) Twins then have to travel, if they win, to Kansas City or Toronto for Game 1 of ALDS
This is four games at four different stadiums in four straight days, Monday through Thursday!
The least likely team this late in season to win the World Series I can think of were last year's SF Giants who were at 1 in 60 for going all the way and they finished at 88-74. But for Twins, their best record possible is only 85-77 but it would be the most unlikely run I have ever heard of, especially if they had to undo a first time three way tie for a mere 2nd wildcard spot.
The math and the rules:
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/...innesota-twins-wild-card-tiebreaker-al-100215
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