Well can you blame him? Mercedes got the 1-2 so what was their problem? As much as they were trying to talk it up at the end, it was obvious that even if Vettel was to get past Nico, Max's tyres were shot.
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2016 Formula 1 Season Thread
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Can you blame whom? The team asked Louis to speed up because Vettel was getting close and they could loose second place. He didn't very obvious for his own reasons. Not a team player.
The constructors was won many races ago so this was very much about the individual. Lewis did what he needed to do to try and win a championship that lets face it, he was very worthy of it. He's been consistently the better driver of the two all year and a hungry world champion like him will never concede until the chequered flag.
Considering on two occasions this year Nico has been perfectly happy to take himself and Lewis out of a race, I don't think Lewis can be scolded too much for not playing the team game lol. Puts that little myth into perspective.
Lewis ends the season on top too so despite running the championship I think Nico needs to assess why he's walked away with the prize but perceived as the inferior. Plenty to consider in the off season.
Was Schumacher?
Is Vettel?
Alonso?
Name a World champion who is a team player. I think Lewis was perfectly justified in his strategy. What else was he to do? Race off into the distance knowing he couldn't hope for anybody to catch Nico?
No World Champion has taken as many races to win their first championship. And he's had the best car for a number of years.
The only reason he has won this year is down to reliability. True Lewis had some poor starts and an off day at Baku, but he lost by 5 points. He was easily winning in Malaysia when yet another engine decided to give up.
10 wins verses Nico's 9 tells it's own story.
I've never been a fan of Hamilton, so I'm really happy to see Rosberg take the title!
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Yes, I will concede that Hamilton is better than Rosberg, but I don't think the talent gap is as wide as some make it seem.
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Rosberg has only been in the best car since 2014. The title fight that year was pretty close, and both had reliability issues as I remember. In 2015, yes Lewis dominated, can't argue that. And this year they have both had stretches of dominance. Yes, Lewis has had reliability issues, but there were times where Nico was ahead anyways. Also, had Nico not foolishly tried to take out Lewis in Austria, he would have had 6 more points (2nd vs 4th) and won the title last week.
Yes, I will concede that Hamilton is better than Rosberg, but I don't think the talent gap is as wide as some make it seem.
I can agree Lewis is better.
I can also agree it's not that big a gap.
But we can all agree that next year we would like to see the top teams closer!
I think it's been pretty obvious this season more than any that Hamilton is a tier higher in the talent pool. He's had DNF's where he too would have won the title this year a lot sooner than Nico. It's been refreshing to see the second placed driver actually be talked about on the programming like he's been the best despite not being champion.
The only thing Lewis did wrong was to slow things down too late. Would have been much more interesting to see 10 laps of Rosberg fending off Vetel and then Verstapen, rather than 2 or 3.
Fair play to Rosberg, he has the most points so is rightfully champion. How anyone can argue that he's the best driver on the grid is beyond me though, as there are several drivers who, given the same car, would be faster than him. Not sure there are many who would be faster than Lewis.
Roll on 2017 and hopefully a much closer grid, constructor and driver championship.
Fair play to Rosberg, he has the most points so is rightfully champion. How anyone can argue that he's the best driver on the grid is beyond me though, as there are several drivers who, given the same car, would be faster than him. Not sure there are many who would be faster than Lewis.
Roll on 2017 and hopefully a much closer grid, constructor and driver championship.
Faster then Lewis - not a lot but on the same level I see Vettel for sure and how about Alonso?
Alonso for sure. Give him a competitive car and he will pull everything out of it.
Sadly I don't think McLaren Honda will deliver that before he's had enough.
Me think you missed the plot what he was saying is that there are many drivers that are better than Rosberg. I am a big fan of Lewis and think he is the best around at the moment. Vestephen is pretty good and what he did in the previous race in the wet was epic. Vetel is a good driver but has annoyed me this season because he is always complaining about other drivers. I think he is just frustrated with his car but he needs to take it on the chin a bit more and stop moaning.
I think Lewis vs Fernando vs Seb is very difficult to call. All have achieved amazing wins in cars that have not been the outright best and all have won championships in cars that are. Lewis has beaten Fernando in the same car and now both are a lot more experienced than they were back then. Lewis has also beaten Seb in a lower category in cars of identical performance, but again both are vastly more experienced than back then. Fernando is also getting to the top end of his peak now and is doing great things in an appalling McLaren but he may be out of touch with having to fight at the thick end of the grid.
It's very difficult to separate any of these guys and say which one is the best. They are all greats of F1 due to what they have achieved in the past.
It's very difficult to separate any of these guys and say which one is the best. They are all greats of F1 due to what they have achieved in the past.
Roll on March, and roll on F1 2017...
If you think about it, when Lewis got the DNF (a few races back, Malaysia I believe), that was the championship right there. A shame really; albeit, he fought hard to the end of the season.
Lastly, I think Lewis was right. If Nico was faster than him, Nico should have passed him. Why should Lewis 'give' Nico the win in Abu Dhabi?
If you think about it, when Lewis got the DNF (a few races back, Malaysia I believe), that was the championship right there. A shame really; albeit, he fought hard to the end of the season.
Lastly, I think Lewis was right. If Nico was faster than him, Nico should have passed him. Why should Lewis 'give' Nico the win in Abu Dhabi?
Nico's complaint was BS, he had no incentive to do anything other than what he did: drive a safe, easy race and follow Lewis to the end.
No one asked Lewis to give nico the win they asked to speed up to secure 1-2
I doubt it. He'd have just passed him for the win!
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Which they got anyway so what's the problem? Also the race win was never in doubt. Securing the 1-2 when the constructors was already in the bag (was it ever in doubt?) was not that important.
I don't think so mate, Lewis has more class than that. Rosberg is more fond of crashing into teammates.
If it had been the other way round Lewis would have risked everything to overtake. That's the type of racer he is, all or nothing. It's why he's so exciting to watch.
That's why he has his Senna fantasies. What better way to emulate his hero. Like you said all or nothing.
I think you're fantasising yourself there. As a fellow triple WDC he makes his own history and put up a good clean fight on Sunday. If you don't like him that's your prerogative, but he's an excellent driver that doesn't need to punt rivals off the racetrack like his teammate does in desperate situations.
F1 is a mess. Boring races between teammates. The only people who don't see it as a mess are mercedes/hamilton/rosberg fans. Parade after parade. I watch in hopes of freak results, DNF's for the big 2, or a stunning run from someone with a point to prove. All to often I am disappointed.
Well from your perspective not. The team is allowed to have a different view?
There are plenty on Mercedes/Hamilton/Rosberg fans around the internet like myself who want to see the other teams catch up and save us from the boring one team domination. I may support Hamilton but I'm a racing fan first and foremost and we need closer competition in F1.
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