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I just got an invoice from Apple in my mail. It was for my dongles and AppleCare. My heart sank a little..
 
Wait I can download boot camp on an external ssd? Will it run the same as if it was partitioned on my mbp ssd?

Yes/No....

You can run bootcamp off an external drive, but bootcamp requires (as far as I know) that you install to an internal one so you have to install onto your internal, clone it to an external and then remove the bootcamp from the internal drive.

Windows To Go is a Microsoft feature for running Windows off a USB stick/drive. As long as you have a working windows installation somewhere, you can use it to install windows to an external drive and then boot that on the Mac and use the bootcamp drivers (which you can download) to install the drives for the mac peripherals.
 
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Finally charged sometime late last night. Canadian BTO 2.9, 1TB, 460. Confirmation email at 11:42PDT on the 27th.
Still Processing, still can add Free gift message.

Don't think that gift message is accurate of anything. I was charged 48 hours ago and that still hasn't changed. I can also still cancel the order.
 
Okay I have called BB several times and they keep saying that they cannot do price matches over the phone and the only way to do them is if I go in store. I think I'm going to just wait out the apple one as my delivery date is 15-22

You could also just go ahead and order it from BB and when it comes go in store and have them do a price match b.c you could simply return it and repurchase it at that point.
 
You could also just go ahead and order it from BB and when it comes go in store and have them do a price match b.c you could simply return it and repurchase it at that point.

I asked to speak with a superviser and they said that they do not match apples education discounts. They only match what apple lists as the normal sale price
 
I'm excited at the possibility that I may be getting this baby next week.

You and me both ... and probably everyone else lol. I'm currently in fear running my current MBP. If it kicks on the dGPU for any reason it comes to a complete stop and hangs. I have gfxCardStatus to keep it on integrated graphics, but for some reason it can't stop all applications from forcing dGPU on.
 
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GUYS,

Im going to be using bootcamp frequently. Should I go with 512 or 1tb?
I'm leaning towards 1tb but it's so damn expensive.

Also, I wonder why people are burning 300 bucks for a 1.2Ghz increase in processor. Seems it is simply not worth it. Better to invest 400 doubling the SSD than to get a few higher benchmark score with the 2.9 cpu.

Amazon Workspaces
 
Don't think that gift message is accurate of anything. I was charged 48 hours ago and that still hasn't changed. I can also still cancel the order.

Im not sure....maybe it was just a line of unrelated circumstances.

Just strange that i was charged Monday 12pm (HKT), then 12 hours later the gift card message was removed and has never returned.
Something triggered that change of circumstance.

Im wondering if it means that the Macbook was made and boxed up ready to go out as a big batch, and is now sitting in a warehouse, then when they finally do go out they will do a final check to ensure you haven't cancelled in the last couple of days before they dispatch it.
Maybe Apple isnt too happy to put somebody on P2S for longer than 24 hours, hence why they are doing that.

Something tells me that Apple has an internal release date (14th maybe), and are not dispatching prior to that.....hence why our orders may now be stacking up in a warehouse now prior to dispatch to get them out to us.
 
Wait I can download boot camp on an external ssd? Will it run the same as if it was partitioned on my mbp ssd?

If it's a USB 3.1 Gen 2 or Thunderbolt enclosure for the SSD, yes, it'll perform the same. USB 3.0 or USB 3.1 Gen 1 will run plenty fast but won't be able to saturate some SSD's.

Note that your new MBP comes with a PCI-Express SSD that is insanely, blazing fast. The only external drive that's going to even come close to it in speed would be a PCI-Express enclosure and a PCI-Express SSD, to connect to a Thunderbolt 3 port. Which will be very expensive.

However, an external SSD will certainly be just as fast as an mSATA or SATA SSD used in almost every other computer, including iMac's and previous MacBook Pro's.

Here's something that may be a good option. The Samsung T3 drives are small and compact (fit in a pocket), require no assembly. Just plug them in and go. Very fast drives, you can easily install and boot Windows to it and it'll perform very well. You can get them up to 2TB if you need.

Worth noting that the PCI-E SSD, though proprietary, is not soldered on. We may see aftermarket internal SSD upgrades in the future.
 
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i definitely thought about changing my order to receive it sooner (right now i am in the dec. 14-20 boat with a 15in BTO), but then i realized... i spent literally years dreaming up my ideal mbp configuration. what screen size, SSD, what sort of BTO options i would want, even before they announced the specifics... so why would i reject all my excitement of having the most future-proofed machine i could possibly get for myself just to get it a month sooner?

obviously everyone's situation is different, but i was glad to sort of get that clarity today. doesn't mean i haven't read all the pages in this thread (134, gosh) or that i wont read it everyday until i get my shipment information! just wanted to contribute a little bit :)

good luck everyone! this is so exciting
 
At first I didn't care too much about it but seeing everyone and their mother get charged starts to worry me. Apple hasn't let me down in regards to shipping yet so I highly doubt they'll start now.

I know it's just a laptop but it I think my reaction is warranted. However, you're absolutely right I'm just gonna go do other things for a few days lol.

None of us in Europe has had their card charged. I remember from the iPhone 7 order in september that charging occured the same day I received the shipped notification from Apple. On sept. 30. Phone arrived 6 days later and I could track it all the way from the factory in China to my local postoffice.
 
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I ordered a 13" Macbook Pro with touchbar (16GB RAM) on 10/27, later in the day when they were in that 3-4 week window. However, I chose the ship to store option because I likely won't be home for delivery and don't want a $2K computer sitting on my porch all afternoon, and they gave a specific delivery pick-up date of Dec. 2. The online store seem pretty consistent with ship to store order times being a week behind ship to home ranges.

Having explained all that background, my question is Apple is usually slower to deliver ship to store orders or if that later date is just a precaution to keep people from bugging their retail employees with calls checking on an order? I'd love to be able to get this thing by the Thanksgiving weekend. That seems possible given the rumors of imminent shipping of the first orders unless Dec. 2 ship to store really is a hard date.
 
They must just be stockpiling all these BTO machines for the first mass shipment. When that shipment is going to occur is anyones guess. I believe the earliest delivery window for BTO in the US was 17-25. Therefore they still have lots of time.

Has anyone with a Stock order had a CC be charged yet? If not, probably Apple is just stockpiling those but they don't need to lock down your order with a CC charge yet as they can always redistribute that stock MBP somewhere else. Then again, even those of us with charges still have the option to Cancel our orders...that seems strange to me....

But I can understand why Apple didn't change people to P4S 2-3 days ago or people would be really antsy waiting for all this stock to build before the first shipment. My guess is everyone in the first shipment will get the P4S around the same time and then shipment will happen within 24 hrs of that. But I guess the P4S change might roll out to people over a day or so also....
 
They must just be stockpiling all these BTO machines for the first mass shipment. When that shipment is going to occur is anyones guess. I believe the earliest delivery window for BTO in the US was 17-25. Therefore they still have lots of time.

Has anyone with a Stock order had a CC be charged yet? If not, probably Apple is just stockpiling those but they don't need to lock down your order with a CC charge yet as they can always redistribute that stock MBP somewhere else. Then again, even those of us with charges still have the option to Cancel our orders...that seems strange to me....

But I can understand why Apple didn't change people to P4S 2-3 days ago or people would be really antsy waiting for all this stock to build before the first shipment. My guess is everyone in the first shipment will get the P4S around the same time and then shipment will happen within 24 hrs of that. But I guess the P4S change might roll out to people over a day or so also....

There is fairly limited options though, im sure any BTO Apple build now wont have trouble selling or finding someone else in the queue with a same spec request.

And i think its because i believe people would be more impatient with their order sitting at P2S like that for 2-4 days, than just keep it at processing. I believe the P2S will be very quick, and quickly move to Shipping once they have verified the customer hasn't hit the cancel button.

I think there will be a mass change to P2S within 24 hours now, and everybodys who has been charged will change at the same of very similar time.
 
GUYS,

Im going to be using bootcamp frequently. Should I go with 512 or 1tb?
I'm leaning towards 1tb but it's so damn expensive.

Also, I wonder why people are burning 300 bucks for a 1.2Ghz increase in processor. Seems it is simply not worth it. Better to invest 400 doubling the SSD than to get a few higher benchmark score with the 2.9 cpu.

I went with the maxed out 13 inch because quite simply, I'm one of those that gets irritated anytime I'm sitting there staring at a computer waiting for something to happen. I'm already spending a boatload of money, and I plan on keeping this computer for a very long time. I've been wanting a Macbook for years, and my windows desktop crashed (again! I seem to only get 2 to 3 years out of each Windows computer before I have to wipe the hard drive and go through a week of setting it up again, -screw windows) a couple months ago and I decided to make the switch to Mac, the new macOS is actually quite nice. Looking forward to a more stable machine. I use a few programs that require windows, so I plan to use boot camp as well so I went with the one terabyte. I'm sure both the processor upgrade and hard drive were a bit unnecessary realistically, I just didn't want to have any regrets. I kept with the 13 inch because I wanted portability for work, and plan on docking at home.
 
Check your bank accounts folks. Apple just removed the charge on my bank account. Looks like we're in for the long wait
 
The 2-3 week ship window starts today for those of us who ordered immediately after the event. I'm hoping for Preparing for Shipment soon.
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Check your bank accounts folks. Apple just removed the charge on my bank account. Looks like we're in for the long wait
Mine still shows a pending charge.
 
The 2-3 week ship window starts today for those of us who ordered immediately after the event. I'm hoping for Preparing for Shipment soon.
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Mine still shows a pending charge.

I know I'm not the only one it's happened to. I only checked bc someone made a post on Reddit. This doesn't look good
 
Check your bank accounts folks. Apple just removed the charge on my bank account. Looks like we're in for the long wait

Apple didn't necessarily remove anything. Before was a pre-auth. Some banks automatically drop pre-auths off that don't "post". Apple has yet to "post" the charges. It's simply the behavior of the bank. For one, companies can't "remove" a charge anyway. They can refund your money, sure. If you get a refund from Apple, you might be worried. But it was simply a pre-authorization that, for lack of a better term, "timed out". And every bank handles that a little differently. If it hadn't timed out, eventually, when the product ships, the charge would "post". If it fell off, then you'll get a new (but identical) charge later. That one will be a "hard charge" that may show up as a pre-auth or pending charge at first, but will post right away.

My theory about why there's a disparity between those who have and have no been "charged", and those reporting the pre-auth dropping off, is that Apple fired off pre-authorizations to all of the BTO orders. Just to ensure that the money was 'there' before they built the machines. We'll get a posted charge when these actually ship.

I went with the maxed out 13 inch because quite simply, I'm one of those that gets irritated anytime I'm sitting there staring at a computer waiting for something to happen. I'm already spending a boatload of money, and I plan on keeping this computer for a very long time. I've been wanting a Macbook for years, and my windows desktop crashed (again! I seem to only get 2 to 3 years out of each Windows computer before I have to wipe the hard drive and go through a week of setting it up again, -screw windows) a couple months ago and I decided to make the switch to Mac, the new macOS is actually quite nice. Looking forward to a more stable machine. I use a few programs that require windows, so I plan to use boot camp as well so I went with the one terabyte. I'm sure both the processor upgrade and hard drive were a bit unnecessary realistically, I just didn't want to have any regrets. I kept with the 13 inch because I wanted portability for work, and plan on docking at home.

Isn't that the truth. My MBP and my homebuilt desktop PC are the same age; and yet the Desktop PC has had Windows re-installed twice. At least we can FINALLY upgrade versions of Windows without too much fuss. That had ALWAYS been something great about Macs, even back in the way old days of OS 8/9. You upgrade to the new OS, and all of your 'stuff' is just there. Upgrade from Windows 98 to Windows XP (same era?), your "stuff" is in a a special folder, nothing looks the same and half of your hardware doesn't work. That's gotten better, but Windows in general still doesn't have great reliability.

I've never had to do anything to my 2012 MBP nor have I ever had any sort of kernel panics or anything like that. It's just worked. And when I did upgrade the SSD from 256GB to a 480GB drive, it was a piece of cake to mirror the drive and then swap. Apple even includes the utilities, no need for complicated third party software.
 
Check your bank accounts folks. Apple just removed the charge on my bank account. Looks like we're in for the long wait

Well my charge only went on in the last 8hrs so I don't think it's about to disappear. Was yours a very early charge? Maybe Apple waited to long to finalize it?
 
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Amazon Workspaces

How many VMs do you use? I only have use for one running Windows 10, and it looks like an Amazon Workspaces account is 25$ a month for a pretty limited virtualized computer (1 vCPU, 2GB ram, 10GB storage). I'm sure i'm missing something as Amazon usually prices their products / services competitively, can you quickly explain the benefits?
 
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