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Apple placed an authorization on your card already? That usually doesn't happen until a product ships....also if they did authorize your card, they only could have lowered the amount. Can you think of what might have happened?

what model did you get?

I got the 15inch MacBook Pro with 1Tb HHD, 460 GPU and the 2.9 CPU.

I understand that Apple doesn't charge you until your item is to ship. Originally I was charged 3800 on Thursday and today it was adjusted to 3491. I did apply for the education discount, maybe that's why the adjusted?
 
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MBP15G


15" MacBook Pro - Space Grey
  • 2.7GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
  • 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
  • Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB VRAM
  • 512GB PCIe-based SSD
  • AppleCare
Delivers 28 Nov - 6 Dec


It will be quite the upgrade from my 2011 13" base MBA I was using up until about a month or so ago when my husband let me use his 2014 13" MBP until the new MBP comes out. I'm stoked!!!


I had originally ordered the base model 15" with the 512GB SSD upgrade, but cancelled it and changed to the non-base + GPU upgrade; doing so pushed my Delivery window back a week, but I feel I'm getting more for my money with the 33% boost in cache on the processor and 2x the teraflops/ram on the GPU.
 
As much as it pained me to do it, and my excitement for buying it after waiting and saving up for nearly a year had been extremely diminished after seeing the price...I ordered one.

I wasn't going to let a few hundred pounds get in the way of me having one but by god am I annoyed. I shouldn't feel resentment in buying something I know I'll get a lot of use out of and is really high quality.

However I had thought the prices would stay the same and I was going to be spending c amount to get the highest BTO model. Now I'm paying that same amount for a base storage and middle processor. Oh well. I was really hoping for black colour so st least there's that!

13" Space Grey MacBook Pro
3.1Ghz Core i5
16GB RAM
256GB SSD

Comes 17th to 24th apparently.
 
Pro is a pretty relative term in market demographics..

you are trying to correlate income to computer specs now? So someone who makes 300k/yr needs a better spec computer than someone who makes 100k/yr?
I'm saying buy the computer that fits your needs. If I had to do serious graphics work and the macbook wasn't gonna cut it, I'd get something else. Apple is a corporation, they don't care about you and you don't have a relationship with them. I use them because their laptops fit my needs and i prefer MacOS. That said, I'd be ok not using them also, not that I don't sympathize with people - especially if they've invested a lot into the apple ecosystem and now have to switch.
 
Any news on whether we can use eGPUs?

Thus far Apple hasn't really supported it. Apple doesn't write drivers for hardware they don't ship; and the actual chip manufacturers don't write drivers for Mac's. They used to way back in the day; when almost every desktop Mac had some sort of expandability and could have an off-the-shelf nVidia or ATi (the predecessor to AMD) Card installed. Not so today.

However, it probably will work for booting into Windows. The thing is, all of the eGPU solutions I've seen, are so expensive you might be better off building your own PC. These enclosures are $500+ (that I've been able to find). $500 easily gets you a case, power supply, motherboard, a fast CPU and a decent SSD. Add your GPU (that you'd have to add to the eGPU box anyway) and you've got yourself a whole gaming PC!

Hmm.. if you think the dual core processor in the 13" is enough to run Photoshop, you must be doing facebook photo touch ups and believe you are doing actual CPU taxing work?

Also 16GB of RAM can be used up very quickly in photoshop when dealing with multiple, multiple layers on a high-res image.

There is a difference between actual pro level work, and a college students version of "pro-level work" which I believe the M-powered MacBook can handle..

"Can run" and "runs well" are two different things. I do moderate level Photoshop, Lightroom, and FCPX stuff on my 13" MacBook Pro now. I do most of my PS/LR stuff on a windows PC that's far more powerful; but of course, FCPX is only available on my Mac. They don't run well. They don't run fast. But they do WORK.

But I would agree that to do the work seriously; you need the 15". I went to the Apple store yesterday and unfortunately, it doesn't seem the machines have the myriad of software for demoing that they once did. But it used to be you could fire up Photoshop side by side and really see the difference in performance; even something as simple as rotating a photo (smooth vs. choppy) on the 15" vs the 13". But it certainly can run.

I'm hearing a lot of "These macs should be exclusively for Pro's" in this thread; as if Prosumers like myself are "unwelcome". And, maybe we are part of the problem; because we happily buy these machines as powerful tools for our hobbies rather than our work. But my friends and family who are creative professionals seem to use them too and are quite happy with them. I do know of one, though, who will be shifting to the new Surface Book.
 
I think I might get one after all, 15" base.. I can't decide whether the 460/4gb vram upgrade is worth it or not.. Will need it for all adobe cs software including photoshop, lightroom, some after effects, some premiere, but not gaming. Any thoughts? And anyone know when they'll be in-store?

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So before I ordered I double-checked which one I ordered because I didn't see that it said "Space Gray 15" MacBook Pro before I clicked Buy now. But I remember the color Space gray is selected by default when you begin. So..that's good! But I was a bit worried first.
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I ordered this

  • 2.9GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
  • 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
  • Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB VRAM
  • 2TB PCIe-based SSD
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports
Oh my! The first 2 TB SSD I have seen being ordered. Not bad! :D
 
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I think I might get one after all, 15" base.. I can't decide whether the 460/4gb vram upgrade is worth it or not.. Will need it for all adobe cs software including photoshop, lightroom, some after effects, some premiere, but not gaming. Any thoughts? And anyone know when they'll be in-store?

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Edit 2: I just realized I could post this elsewhere but can't find the delete button anywhere. Any mod around?

The 460 is almost twice as fast as the 450, and the additional VRAM is a big big deal for working with large images and high resolution video, as well as for driving high resolution external displays.

You'll take a bit of a hit with battery life presumably; but IMHO, the 460 is a no brainer.
 
The 460 is almost twice as fast as the 450, and the additional VRAM is a big big deal for working with large images and high resolution video, as well as for driving high resolution external displays.

You'll take a bit of a hit with battery life presumably; but IMHO, the 460 is a no brainer.

Well there you go, that's all I need, thank you!
 
On Thursday I ordered a silver 13" w/ touch bar and 16 GB RAM and 512 GB SDD upgrades. Roughly $2225 after tax.

Then I started having second thoughts... I cancelled my initial order today and ordered a base silver 15" with 512GB SSD upgrade. $2600 after tax.

An extra $375 for a 34% larger screen and quad core CPU seemed worth it as I plan to keep it for a long time. I think programming will be easier with a larger screen. And the CPU should help with running multiple VMs.

The shipping estimate is 29 Nov-6 Dec. :( I can barely wait, as I'm upgrading from a late 2007 MacBook.
 
The 460 is almost twice as fast as the 450, and the additional VRAM is a big big deal for working with large images and high resolution video, as well as for driving high resolution external displays.

You'll take a bit of a hit with battery life presumably; but IMHO, the 460 is a no brainer.
460 lyfe
 
I ordered this

  • 2.9GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
  • 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
  • Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB VRAM
  • 2TB PCIe-based SSD
  • Four Thunderbolt 3 ports

Nice--maxed out to the max :D

I was originally considering that one, but I just couldn't justify $800 more if I didn't think I was actually going to use 2 TB of space. Hope I don't regret it and want that space too soon down the road...
 
I'm saying buy the computer that fits your needs. If I had to do serious graphics work and the macbook wasn't gonna cut it, I'd get something else. Apple is a corporation, they don't care about you and you don't have a relationship with them. I use them because their laptops fit my needs and i prefer MacOS. That said, I'd be ok not using them also, not that I don't sympathize with people - especially if they've invested a lot into the apple ecosystem and now have to switch.

Sure, for casual users it doesn't matter jumping ship..

An example tho.. if you are a web developer windows is a much harder environment to work in, many if not all will be using Linux or a Linux VM to develop or test when on a pc.

There is a reason why macs dominate in the professional realm, it's based on a unix shell and makes life easy for developers and everyone else. Unix command line.

Now when you need to simulate your host environment you can run multiple VM's on a mac, Linux/windows.

Just keep in mind that most if not all basic setups are built on macs or Linux which is then ported to windows.
 
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Just had to go with the base 15 inch model. The price was pushing it to begin with. First time making the purchase with paypal because I didn't have my card with me. Hopefully nothing screwy happens to me.
 
I went for the base 13" touch model but upgraded the RAM. I'm coming from a MBA with 8GB of RAM and a 128GB HDD so it's a big upgrade for me. I was tempted by the 15", but I like having a small portable machine and don't do any pro audio or video work.

Delivery is in 2-3 weeks, but it's a bit strange and frustrating that after waiting so long for these laptops to be accnnounced that they aren't available in stores and to ship the day of the announcement.
 
Thus far Apple hasn't really supported it. Apple doesn't write drivers for hardware they don't ship; and the actual chip manufacturers don't write drivers for Mac's. They used to way back in the day; when almost every desktop Mac had some sort of expandability and could have an off-the-shelf nVidia or ATi (the predecessor to AMD) Card installed. Not so today.
This isn't quite true. AMD, Intel and Nvidia all write their own drivers. It is just that Apple controls the distribution and the process for the standard stock driver.
 
So I haven't posted before but felt compelled to add this. I ordered the first rMBP in 2012 and it cost £2458.99 for 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7 and 16gb ram with 1600 MHz DDR3 and 512gb SSD. I now ordered the 2.7 GHz and 16gb with 2133 MHz and 512 Gb(with significantly faster specs) version in Space Grey with 460 GPU and it ended up being £2789.00 this is a difference of £330.01 in the UK that is an increase of 13.4%. If you simply have a look at the exchange rate change since Brexit this doesn't even cover that. So I don't think the increase was really significant IMHO.

I'm really looking forward to the upgraded specs and TouchBar with TouchID. I have been waiting for TouchID to come to the mac for ever. Personally this will make a difference to me. I hate inefficient processes and not needing to type a password is high up there when you use a password manager.

macOs to me has been amazing compared to Windows and personally I still think it is. I do sympathise with people who need higher spec for video editing or graphic intensive task but don't think this update is very different from the previous version I have owned.

It is definitely not a massive upgrade for people owning a 2015 version but historically that is always the case when new version is released. Macs for my company has been amazing without any issues. We have 15 macs running in our company and in 4 years we have had no issues. For me that is worth the 'Apple tax' as some people call it. I manage all the tech and this means I have really benefited from this. If I compare it to all the previous companies I have worked for where Microsoft was the standard this has been an absolute pleasure.

Just my opinion but obviously everyone is entitled to their own ;-)


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Hmm.. if you think the dual core processor in the 13" is enough to run Photoshop, you must be doing facebook photo touch ups and believe you are doing actual CPU taxing work?

Also 16GB of RAM can be used up very quickly in photoshop when dealing with multiple, multiple layers on a high-res image.

There is a difference between actual pro level work, and a college students version of "pro-level work" which I believe the M-powered MacBook can handle..

This is hilarious. Have you ever used Photoshop before? A base model with 8gb can handle it, I know because it did in 2012, it did in 2013 as well, also in 2015 as I had a new base model every single one of those years and it handled it at ease.

If you want to do "actual pro level work" get a high end iMac, maxed out Mac Mini, or Mac Pro. Or a 15in MBP with literally everything maxed, but even then most real pros (as you apparently know about) work at a desk workstation with a high end desktop system.
 
This is hilarious. Have you ever used Photoshop before? A base model with 8gb can handle it, I know because it did in 2012, it did in 2013 as well, also in 2015 as I had a new base model every single one of those years and it handled it at ease.

If you want to do "actual pro level work" get a high end iMac, maxed out Mac Mini, or Mac Pro. Or a 15in MBP with literally everything maxed, but even then most real pros (as you apparently know about) work at a desk workstation with a high end desktop system.

Yes, and the m3 powered MacBook can run photoshop as well. FYI...
 
Hi all - apologies in advance for my newbie question but hoping someone can help. I am very much ready for new Macbook Pro. I've been using a 13" Macbook mid 2010 2.4 ghz Intel Core Due, 4 GB ram, 256 storage since May 2011. It's definitely gotten tired over the past year and though it's been slow lately, I've used it for Photoshop and InDesign projects faithfully.

I plan to use the new computer for the same things but I'm looking forward to a faster machine that will let me run more programs simultaneously, which has been a struggle lately on my 2010 MB. As much as I covet the bigger 15" screen, it's a bit out of my price range and I know I can hook up to an external monitor. I also have no problem using external hard drives for storage.

So I'm thinking I will be more than pleased with the performance of the new base MBP 13" with Touchbar. I'm curious about the $90 upgrade to the 3.1GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz from the standard. What difference would that make? Thanks
 
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