Of course I'm aware I've lived here for 25 years
. I didn't quote £1,300, it's just the number which showed up on the screenshot, so I was explaining how it wasn't indicative.
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2016 Macbook Pro, Order/Shipping Thread
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Of course I'm aware I've lived here for 25 years
. I didn't quote £1,300, it's just the number which showed up on the screenshot, so I was explaining how it wasn't indicative.
Funny how people interpret
"Education pricing is available to university students, students accepted into university, parents buying for university students, and teachers and staff at all levels."
As "for anyone who doesn't fancy paying the correct price."
It's fraud, and it's a middle finger to Apple who are doing this as a goodwill to university students. The discount and the free warranty have already been reduced this year. If this abuse is widespread, don't be surprised to see the discount go entirely. Annoying.
Bet you're well fun at parties
So guys, since I'm unable to get the new mbp shipped because I don't know where I'll be at the end of November/beg. Dec., but instead have 3 Apple Stores 45 minutes away, do you have any idea when they're going to be available for pick-up? Is the end of November even plausible or am I daydreaming? Thanks!!
So after a long weekend of costing and thinking i have reordered a new Macbookpro and even spent more.
I had time to think and configure various alternatives (Dell, Razor, Thinkpads etc) and I still kept coming back to Apple. The prices of the others were not wildly cheaper (sure some had stronger component elements such as graphics etc.) and in my mind there is no denying that the Mac would last me longer. My current 2012 model is going well and has a surprisingly high resale value (never even checked before).
So now I have ordered a Space Grey 15”; 2.7GHZ, 16GB RAM, 1TB SDD, 460-4GB.
And I can’t wait…beans and toast from now on, but can’t wait.
In 6 months time I will add AppleCare as well (need to save a bit first)…
I had time to think and configure various alternatives (Dell, Razor, Thinkpads etc) and I still kept coming back to Apple. The prices of the others were not wildly cheaper (sure some had stronger component elements such as graphics etc.) and in my mind there is no denying that the Mac would last me longer. My current 2012 model is going well and has a surprisingly high resale value (never even checked before).
So now I have ordered a Space Grey 15”; 2.7GHZ, 16GB RAM, 1TB SDD, 460-4GB.
And I can’t wait…beans and toast from now on, but can’t wait.
In 6 months time I will add AppleCare as well (need to save a bit first)…
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I have ordered mine today, with wait of 4-5 weeks, if i want to get it deliverd, it would be available at local apple store for pick up at 8th Dec. So i think beginning or middle of Dec is possible.
I know so many people who've abused the education discount over the years (as its so easily done) so it might be a bit of a spoilsport-type post but he's probably right.
He is right to be fair, the reply was immature on my part. Having said that, how many of us can genuinely say we've never taken advantage of a friends' offer, used a family members staff discount at a shop, etc? I dare say these are an extreme minority, and that 90% of people would (and do) do what I've done given the chance. Doesn't make it morally correct, but it's hardly stealing.
Had work put in the order for be. 15inch, 512gb, radeon pro 455 I'm pretty sure.
Plus 50 dongles since i need hdmi, vga, ethernet and usb3 ports lol. can't wait till there's usbc cables and keyboards.
Super glad I'm getting it through work rather than buying it myself as i originally planned. not thrilled with the ddr3 16gb ram and the price!
Plus 50 dongles since i need hdmi, vga, ethernet and usb3 ports lol. can't wait till there's usbc cables and keyboards.
Super glad I'm getting it through work rather than buying it myself as i originally planned. not thrilled with the ddr3 16gb ram and the price!
So the dongle thing, I'm a bit confused. In the use-case scenario where somebody needs lots of dongles at their home/office location because they might have a big monitor, some USB-A things to connect etc, is the simple solution to have a USB dock (of whatever variety) and then just a single cable (and adapter) to your shiny new laptop?
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Hi guys ,
I am about to order my second macbook pro 13" ( first one was stolen). I" ll probably go with the following configuration.
Space gray
16 gb Ram
i5 3,1 gHz
What do you think? Does the upgrade to the i7 worth the extra 240 €?
Thanks
I am about to order my second macbook pro 13" ( first one was stolen). I" ll probably go with the following configuration.
Space gray
16 gb Ram
i5 3,1 gHz
What do you think? Does the upgrade to the i7 worth the extra 240 €?
Thanks
after you order it, don't forget to put your order here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WLB7Tqsyvettq9VYCBR-S5D7AzcCMPEZpMhaGa2cFsM/edit#gid=0
Quick question - if the order is at 'processing' but still listing a 3-4 week shipping estimate, can you place a second order to amend some detail and cancel the first (or abort if the shipping estimate changes too much)?
Reason is, I'm going for the base touch-bar 13" MBP but I have a little voice eating away saying I should have upgraded to 16Gb RAM. It's still stupidly expensive to do that, but I am considering it, but if it's going to blow my delivery dates out of the water then I won't bother changing it.
Thats the reason I want to add a 2nd order then cancel the first. If thats not possible at 'processing' stage, then again - I won't bother.
Reason is, I'm going for the base touch-bar 13" MBP but I have a little voice eating away saying I should have upgraded to 16Gb RAM. It's still stupidly expensive to do that, but I am considering it, but if it's going to blow my delivery dates out of the water then I won't bother changing it.
Thats the reason I want to add a 2nd order then cancel the first. If thats not possible at 'processing' stage, then again - I won't bother.
You may be better off calling and seeing if they can make that change to your order without having to place a new one. I honestly will be shocked if these do not start shipping well before the estimated ship times. I could see them start shipping by the end of this week or early next week. Apple seems to always over estimate shipping dates and come through early. They have done this for years with pretty much all of their products.
15-inch MacBook Pro - Space Gray
Ordered Oct 27
Delivers 16 Nov, 2016 - 23 Nov, 2016
Processing
I ordered this to replace my nMP 6-core, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, D700
It is a pricey laptop and so many people are whining about it, yet no benchmarks are known. I hope that the components will play nicely together. The processor is the latest 4-core mobile processor available at the moment. No one speaks about the impressively fast SSD, about 2 times faster than previous models... Wow! New speakers with apparently much better audio on so on.
No problems with the connections - times change. Connections change. Will get an adapter for my TB drives.
But worried about the 16GB RAM as I am a Pro video editor working on huge libraries.
But as I am most of the time editing on location, it just makes more sense to have a mobile computer. Was never impressed with the performance of the Mac Pro to be honest, especially the slooow H264 export drives me crazy compared to the fast exports on a Macbook Pro due to the hardware acceleration encoding on Intel's i7.
I hope that I am making the right decision.
Ah - and one more thing: I am a pro editor on FCPX (I have been working on Avid and FCP7 for more than a decade) and have edited now about 20 feature documentaries for major European broadcast stations on FCPX. Never had any issue. But my editing workflow is waaay faster. Audio postproduction houses prefer my AAF Files over those from Avid because there are less bugs and if you get the roles right, nicely organised. Well, with 10.3 even better.
Just my two cents for those people thinking that no pro users use FCPX. Get real.
- 2.7GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7
- 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
- Radeon Pro 460 with 4GB VRAM
- 1TB PCIe-based SSD
Ordered Oct 27
Delivers 16 Nov, 2016 - 23 Nov, 2016
Processing
I ordered this to replace my nMP 6-core, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, D700
It is a pricey laptop and so many people are whining about it, yet no benchmarks are known. I hope that the components will play nicely together. The processor is the latest 4-core mobile processor available at the moment. No one speaks about the impressively fast SSD, about 2 times faster than previous models... Wow! New speakers with apparently much better audio on so on.
No problems with the connections - times change. Connections change. Will get an adapter for my TB drives.
But worried about the 16GB RAM as I am a Pro video editor working on huge libraries.
But as I am most of the time editing on location, it just makes more sense to have a mobile computer. Was never impressed with the performance of the Mac Pro to be honest, especially the slooow H264 export drives me crazy compared to the fast exports on a Macbook Pro due to the hardware acceleration encoding on Intel's i7.
I hope that I am making the right decision.
Ah - and one more thing: I am a pro editor on FCPX (I have been working on Avid and FCP7 for more than a decade) and have edited now about 20 feature documentaries for major European broadcast stations on FCPX. Never had any issue. But my editing workflow is waaay faster. Audio postproduction houses prefer my AAF Files over those from Avid because there are less bugs and if you get the roles right, nicely organised. Well, with 10.3 even better.
Just my two cents for those people thinking that no pro users use FCPX. Get real.
Since the only upgrade is only for clock speed since cache is the same, I would probably save it for the many dongles we need.
Some hardware I'm using I keep in my bag and like to have available. For example, USB 3 portable hard drives, charging my iPad and iPhone (I ordered USB-C Lightning cables to solve that issue). I'll now need a media reader since it doesn't include an SD card reader, and I do own a USB 3.0 model. It's not practical to use a hub for stuff I bring with me on the go, because I don't use it all at once.
Some things I could replace with USB-C 'items' but it's cheaper just to have a USB-C to USB-A adapter for now, and begin replacing some of those things one by one. I'll eventually get a pair of USB-C (USB 3.0) enclosure for the two portable hard drives I take with me (I take them with me on trips and dump my photos, videos, etc. on them, each containing the same content so I have two copies of everything should something fail.) When I get home, I dump those onto my NAS and then empty them, so I'm ready to go again. While thunderbolt performance would be nice; I'm usually just offloading from SD cards so I'm bottlenecked anyway there.
Some of the more expensive hardware is just always going to need a dongle because it doesn't make sense to replace just for USB-C. Some is used at a desk and a hub works, some will need a dongle. One nice thing is that the dongles aren't unreasonably expensive. Even the ones from Apple; but of course Amazon.com is full of them. I could conceivably just buy a handful of USB-A to USB-C dongles and stick them on those devices I lug with me and just leave them on there, so in effect they all become USB-C.
I'm curious about this as well. I'm going to start iOS development after I finish software engineering this year, and I'm curious as to whether the i7 will have any benefit over the i5, even just the 2.9GHz configuration.
EDIT: I mis-read your post; you're looking at the 13" model. So disregard the comments about the quad-core CPU (although if you can swing it, the 15" model is going to be much faster). The rest is all true though. The faster i7 is going to accomplish tasks faster. But the base i5 will still accomplish tasks.
The two extra cores is the big deal here. A quad-core CPU is going to perform a lot of tasks quicker; tasks like compiling your applications. It's up to you whether that's actually worth the money or not. There was a time when getting the slower CPU meant there were applications you simply could not run. Today? Not so much. Even the base i5 in the non-touchbar 13" MacBook Pro; the slowest of this line, will essentially run every application that WILL run on macOS Sierra. Some won't run smoothly, but it'll run them all. And certainly all of the i5's on the 15" model are more than capable of even the most intense applications. The big difference is going to be time to complete intense tasks, like rendering and compiling.
I do some light duty video editing for my own YouTube channel, NOTHING serious or even remotely "pro". While I did decide to invest in the faster quad-core 15" and the dedicated GPU in part to improve performance there; I didn't actually need to. I only ever do one video at a time, so leaving it for a few hours (which is what it could take sometimes on my 2012 MacBook Pro, dual core core i5) was not the end of the world. But if I were producing several videos a day, that would be unacceptable. Of course, FCPX can add tasks to the list and I can keep working while it background renders, with a dual-core 2012 MacBook Pro I could conceivably backlog it so much that I'd have to leave it running overnight to finish my work.
I don't do any iOS development; I used to do some coding (just as a hobby) years ago; and things have surely changed. But I would assume for bigger and more advanced applications, you're going to shave a lot of time running the faster CPU. The 2.9GHz chip also has a lot more cache which probably won't make a huge difference in Xcode, but in other applications, that's a difference you can "feel". Applications have more cache to load up which speeds things up. There's a few places data an application needs can reside. The hard-drive (SSD), which is the slowest and farthest away. The RAM, which is significantly faster, and the cache; which is the fastest and is one clock cycle away from being executed, it's instantly available. Apple used to make a HUGE deal about the cache in PowerPC chips and how much faster that made Mac versions of applications vs. the Windows versions (they used to do side-by-side demos of the fastest Windows PC's money could buy, often twice the price of a Mac, running something like Photoshop, and the same app running on a mid-grade iMac or PowerMac with a PowerPC CPU; and the PowerPC machine would get the job done a lot faster. And then usually a maxed-out top of the line PPC Mac just for the wow factor).
So tl;dr- the slower CPU and the faster CPU will do the same work and run the same applications. You are not going to run into a situation where "I can't run this application / use this software / perform this task because my CPU isn't fast enough" on any 2016 MacBook Pro. However, the faster CPU will accomplish the same tasks in a lot less time.
Wow, thanks for the lengthy reply! I would certainly go the 15" if I could, but I need the extra portability of the 13" as I'm going away on a year long trip around America/Europe in March. I currently have the 2016 12" m7 MacBook which I'm using to finish off my degree. It can handle all undergrad software engineering assignments fine, but I'd like a little extra processing/graphics power. The 12" MacBook would have been ideal at 0.92kg if it was slightly more powerful, but the 13" is 1.37k; which is alright to travel with (same weight as the 13" air). The 15" on the other hand, weight-wise (1.83kg) and size-wise is just a little too big to carry around. Thanks again for your help!
For the Spreadsheet, shouldn't we have a different tab for no-touchbar, 13" w/ touchbar, and a tab for 15" w/ touchbar?
That way we can quickly glance at the data and be able to compare it to our own model easier?
I look forward to joining this thread soon; however, I'm waiting for some reviews that go over the video options as I'm not sure which one to get. I'm planning to go with the 15", 2.7 GHz, 1TB of storage and then not sure on the video option. Granted $100 is negligible at this price, but I guess I'm worried there might be some negative to it? Really tempted to jump to 2TB too, but not really needed for me and that $800 jump is a bit too hard to swallow at the moment.
Later today, I'll split the data into 6 tabs: 13" and 15" in each of USA/Canada, Europe, Asia (2 x 3). Would that be okay for everyone?
