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I look forward to joining this thread soon; however, I'm waiting for some reviews that go over the video options as I'm not sure which one to get. I'm planning to go with the 15", 2.7 GHz, 1TB of storage and then not sure on the video option. Granted $100 is negligible at this price, but I guess I'm worried there might be some negative to it? Really tempted to jump to 2TB too, but not really needed for me and that $800 jump is a bit too hard to swallow at the moment.

The 460 has almost twice the computing power of the 450. Until they are out and benchmarked we can't really know what that translates to in real world performance; but that's worth noting. Something really interesting is that the Radeon Pro 460 has almost identical raw graphics power as the GPU in the Playstation 4. (The Radeon 460 Pro has 1.85 TFlops and the PS4's custom GPU has 1.86 TFlops). That does NOT mean you'll get PS4 level gaming graphics at all; there's a LOT more to a GPU than simply the Teraflop value. But it does mean it's quite a stout mobile GPU. Because it's part of AMD's Pro line, it's going to be optimized more for applications like Photoshop, Maya or Final Cut Pro; rather than it is for gaming.

It also uses more power so you'll get reduced battery life when doing stuff that requires the GPU. Battery life will be the same for web browsing / basic productivity / streaming video / etc., because the integrated GPU which handles those tasks is the same.

For storage, I'd just look at your existing storage usage. How much do you use now? How much do you need? With USB-C and thunderbolt 3; you have a ton of options on storage. From big fast RAID arrays to still very fast AND very affordable USB-C (USB 3.0/3.1) external drives that can fit in your pocket and are bus powered. That $800 could easily go to external storage that can be used for large files like photos, videos, etc. IMHO, most folks purchasing a 15" MacBook Pro would only use the maxed out storage to store files like that. Unlike, say, a gaming laptop which would be chock full of software (games), that you really want stored on the internal SSD. That said; if you're willing to spend a little more than a USB-C drive, a thunderbolt SSD can be just as fast as the internal SSD, and could still save you a couple hundred bucks. I'd expect to spend around $500 on the fastest 512GB Thunderbolt 2 or 3 external SSD's. 512+512=1TB of course, and you're $300 ahead. That same $500 or so could also get you a couple terabytes worth of spinning disc external storage which is still suitable for working with most stuff.

Of course, if your pockets are super deep; there's no such thing as too much internal storage. Other than the price, there is no downside.

Wow, thanks for the lengthy reply! I would certainly go the 15" if I could, but I need the extra portability of the 13" as I'm going away on a year long trip around America/Europe in March. I currently have the 2016 12" m7 MacBook which I'm using to finish off my degree. It can handle all undergrad software engineering assignments fine, but I'd like a little extra processing/graphics power. The 12" MacBook would have been ideal at 0.92kg if it was slightly more powerful, but the 13" is 1.37k; which is alright to travel with (same weight as the 13" air). The 15" on the other hand, weight-wise (1.83kg) and size-wise is just a little too big to carry around. Thanks again for your help!

Of course! I'm with you 100% on the portability. Though I'm not backpacking across two continents with mine (too cool! Enjoy that trip!). But I do travel a bit for work and lug it around; I want my back as light as possible and my laptop to be light and portable too. Given that the 15" is about the same weight as the 13" I'm replacing, I'm sort of figuring I can fool myself into getting the power of a 15" that feels just as portable as my 13", even though I know the 13 would be more portable.
 
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So excited!
The price is with student discount in The Netherlands.
 
I saw The Verge just posted that they won't have a review of the touchbar for awhile since they haven't gotten a review copy yet. We could be in for a pretty long wait.
 
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I saw The Verge just posted that they won't have a review of the touchbar for awhile since they haven't gotten a review copy yet. We could be in for a pretty long wait.
I doubt it's anything to be alarmed about. Probably finishing touches to software. They will arrive in the estimated window.
 
When does everyone think we will see some movement on the 15" MBP? Optimistically, I'm hoping we will see some "Preparing to Ship" on the first wave at the end of this week. Somewhat pessimistically, we will some preparing next week.
 
I saw The Verge just posted that they won't have a review of the touchbar for awhile since they haven't gotten a review copy yet. We could be in for a pretty long wait.

I was listening to their podcast and It seemed by the way they were talking, that they had a working model with the touch bar. We shall see.
 
When does everyone think we will see some movement on the 15" MBP? Optimistically, I'm hoping we will see some "Preparing to Ship" on the first wave at the end of this week. Somewhat pessimistically, we will some preparing next week.

I am think first wave preparing to ships wont be until the week of November 7th, I am thinking first deliveries could be as soon as the end of next week (optimistic) but more likely most will have them delivered the week of November 14th.
 
If everything is on schedule we should get them early. We really don't know if there any existing manufacturing issues or ones that could arise when production ramps up to higher capacities. Apple has always been good at delivering by the expected date though.
 
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don't forget to place your order here based on your country/model/colour etc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...BR-S5D7AzcCMPEZpMhaGa2cFsM/edit#gid=146953825

It looks like people are not quite understanding the difference between "Estimated Shipping" and "Estimated Delivery", as a lot of folks are putting "Estimated Delivery" dates under the "Estimated Shipping" column.

Also, the Title says "15" ". If the goal is for the spreadsheet to be only for those ordering 15" models, why include a "13"/15" Column?"
 
Later today, I'll split the data into 6 tabs: 13" and 15" in each of USA/Canada, Europe, Asia (2 x 3). Would that be okay for everyone?
It's your project, but are you sure that's necessary? I mean, that data can be easily filtered and if you make 6 tabs, I severely doubt people will enter their data in the correct tab.
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I'm curious about this as well. I'm going to start iOS development after I finish software engineering this year, and I'm curious as to whether the i7 will have any benefit over the i5, even just the 2.9GHz configuration.
If you are going to work in big teams, where the code base is easily several 100K lines of code, yes the CPU is important. However for most projects where you work with 1, maybe 2 people on a project, the CPU is _not_ important. I've worked with the base model 2013 MacBook Air this whole year!

Source: I'm an iOS dev.
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So excited!
The price is with student discount in The Netherlands.
Hey another Dutchie!

Vette bak, ouwe! (Translation: nice machine, you're really going to enjoy it :) )
 
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I ordered mine to the infinite loop Apple Store for pickup. It claims November 25th pickup but let's hope it's before then!
 
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Also, the Title says "15" ". If the goal is for the spreadsheet to be only for those ordering 15" models, why include a "13"/15" Column?"

I thought about removing this column but decided to keep it as a failsafe - it forces people to check that they are adding their data to the right sheet.
 
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