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Can you post a screenshot of your tracking?

Here's mine. From reading yours, I would guess it's en-route.

12:13 am At local FedEx facility SHANGHAI CN
10:30 pm At local FedEx facility SHANGHAI CN
9:54 pm International shipment release - Import SHANGHAI CN
 
I ordered a maxed out CPU-GPU 15" with 256 GB SSD on 29th oct and it showed 7-15 DEC delivery date on Apple.com but suddenly I got a mssg yesterday that it will be delivered on 15th Nov
I'm confused why my laptop went from Shanghai China to Osaka Japan ?
Delivery destination is Piscataway NJ anyone else with the same thing
 

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Me three :-(.

My last update is: Shanghai, China 11/14/2016 9:07 P.M. Export Scan
Export Scan without a Departure Scan means it never left?

Hey Arbitrage, any idea what UPS plane we'll be on? Looks like we are stuck in Shanghai.

Seems like each day there will be UPS105 and UPS81. Both get to the US 11mins apart. 105 leaves a bit earlier but stops in Osaka for sushi..LOL Search those flight numbers in FlightAware to see the history. I don't think tomorrows are posted yet but the schedule is the same every day looking at the history.

Mine did get its Departure scan at 9:01PM but didn't show on my UPS tracking till about 45mins after UPS81 left. I will await my scan in Anchorage to confirm I'm on that flight.
 
I think you could easily argue that it is somewhat insensitive to compare the fulfilment of our MacBooks with horrendous historic injustice, and I think it likely @el-John-o is currently prepping a response thusly. However a parallel argument along these lines still stands, if only from an image or customer service standpoint rather than a justice one.

This is new and unexpected from Apple.

My issue is more that I think you're giving, for lack of a better phrase, "undue credit" to Apple for this. This is the result of their logistical partners. There's no evidence Apple did any sort of active work to ensure Americans get their stuff faster; nor is there evidence that at the time of the keynote, Phil Schiller or anyone else knew that they'd be arriving at different timeframes. Their uncertain "two or three weeks" timeframe instead of a specific launch date tells me they were still ironing those things out.

And so every couple of pages or so you remind us that you want to cancel your order because you feel slighted; and I get it. (The other posters comparison to racial injustice was absurd). I just don't think you're blaming the right people, that's all I'm saying. I don't think Apple knew, on the keynote stage, that some countries would get it less quickly; because I don't think they had finalized the logistics at all.

I totally get the launch day buzz. But what Apple does with iPhones is hold everyones back until they are ready for the 'big launch'. What they did this time was ship them out as soon as they possibly could using the fastest methods. And regulatory and just flat out differences in distance meant that some people got them sooner.

I'm with you 100% on the launch day buzz. Because I missed out on literally every other pre-order. I just am not so sure it actually is the best thing for Apple to hold everyones back so we all get them at the same time.
 
Mine says it will deliver 15.-22. but it's not even P4S...
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There's no evidence Apple did any sort of active work to ensure Americans get their stuff faster;
Wrong. The EU orders are not even preparing for shipping.
 

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Maybe, but the thing is, they can only make as many as they can make at a time. Would it make sense for them to make all of them, for those that preordered within a certain time frame and stock pile them, then calculate when to send each of them out, so that everyone got them at the same time?
That is literally what they do with every other product launch.

If so, when should the order time cut off be? What if I ordered 2 minutes after, but someone else ordered an hour after, should we get it at the same time?
The 'cut-off time' system is already in operation. There was a cut-off time between people who had 2-3 week and 3-4 week and 4-5 week estimates.

What if some get delayed in transit? Should the rest of us have ours held until the delays are cleared up? It just doesn't make sense.
Reductio ad absurdum. Apple didn't even try to have these arrive on the same day, it was just haphazard. They manage it with iPhones, why not with Macs?

Why taint your own new product purchase with negative thoughts, before Apple has dropped the ball and given you a reason to do so? Why choose to be negative? Be excited and if you are unlucky enough to have yours arrive after the date promised, as I am sure a few of us will, let Apple deal with that exception and complain to your hearts content.
Because for me and most people the launch day buzz is part of it.

I'm still grateful, I still have perspective, I still appreciate the insignificance of it all, but I can still express discontent.
 
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My issue is more that I think you're giving, for lack of a better phrase, "undue credit" to Apple for this. This is the result of their logistical partners. There's no evidence Apple did any sort of active work to ensure Americans get their stuff faster; nor is there evidence that at the time of the keynote, Phil Schiller or anyone else knew that they'd be arriving at different timeframes. Their uncertain "two or three weeks" timeframe instead of a specific launch date tells me they were still ironing those things out.
I think it really comes down to the lack of first come first served. If it really was the case that there was some logistics nightmare (for a task that Apple has done countless times before), I would have expected at least some in Europe to have either received them today or for at least a number of people to have received the PFS notification.

As it is, to have a whole continent excluded can't be anything other than a plan to not process those shipments as a whole yet. I don't expect my MBP to be on my doorstep this instant, just to be dealt with fairly as a person in the queue of orders
 
Someone here posted the adapter plugged into the outlet. I see how it works with the US adapters, however, outlets in Germany aren't flat. Is this part of the adapter going to look like the top of an iPhone charger then, being non-retractable?
 
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If my current status is:
Shanghai, China 11/14/2016 9:07 P.M. Export Scan
but no departure scan, there's no way my mbp can be on that flight, right?

Odd... I don't see any upcoming UPS flights on this list from Shanghai to Anchorage
http://flightaware.com/live/airport/ZSPD/scheduled

My departure scan was 9:01PM and export was many hours before that. So unlikely you are on that flight. Maybe there is another flight that we don't know about later today, otherwise....

They don't seem to show the next flights till much closer to when it is scheduled. But expect the same two flights 105 and 81 to go tomorrow and every day this week except Sunday. The only difference is 81 will go to Japan on Sat and no 105 on Sat. Maybe there will be another random UPS85 but that one is only every so often. Maybe some other airline tracking sites have more of the scheduled flight listed.
 
My issue is more that I think you're giving, for lack of a better phrase, "undue credit" to Apple for this. This is the result of their logistical partners. There's no evidence Apple did any sort of active work to ensure Americans get their stuff faster; nor is there evidence that at the time of the keynote, Phil Schiller or anyone else knew that they'd be arriving at different timeframes. Their uncertain "two or three weeks" timeframe instead of a specific launch date tells me they were still ironing those things out.

And so every couple of pages or so you remind us that you want to cancel your order because you feel slighted; and I get it. (The other posters comparison to racial injustice was absurd). I just don't think you're blaming the right people, that's all I'm saying. I don't think Apple knew, on the keynote stage, that some countries would get it less quickly; because I don't think they had finalized the logistics at all.
I see.

But if I can't blame Apple for not finalising the logistics of it, who can I blame? The ball is in their court.

They have massive distribution hubs. Macs are low volume compared to, for example, iPhones. Stockpiling and having an en masse launch would have been totally possible.

And there is evidence that they prioritised Americans, because American customers were charged first, PFSed first, and shipped first.

We're still 'processing'.
 
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Its strange that this is the first major product I've purchased on the Apple Store....ive usually just gone to the main stores and purchased from there.

With so much chatter about how usually Apple beat their estimate, i psyched myself up to receive it on Day 1 of the estimate or before. Now i'm in Day 2 of my estimated delivery, and i'm still at processing.

But yeh, i'm not disappointed at all.....i'm still in the time-frame Apple said it would be here and i trust it, irregardless of whether other people have received theirs or not.
As long as i have it on or before the 21st....end of my date slot....then i am happy, and literally no reason to be upset or disappointed...Apple have delivered what they told me they were going to.

However.....if it gets to the 22nd and i don't have, then major disappointment sets in......but until then, i'm chill.
 
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Mine says it will deliver 15.-22. but it's not even P4S...
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Wrong. The EU orders are not even preparing for shipping.

Evidence that the European Customers are not getting them as quickly.

NOT evidence that Apple has done something specifically to ensure that Europeans get them less quickly. If you guys get tracking numbers FROM China in the next couple of days; then that's utter and pure BS and I'll be right there with the rallying cry with you. That's favoritism.

But if it's as many suspect; and these are indeed shipped; but not yet to a warehouse/distribution center? And that, like all previous orders, European customers don't get any updates to P4S or Shipped until they are AT the distribution center? Then chances are you'll see them in a couple of days, and they were still shipped as quickly as possible. The issue, then, is a lack of information. And I'm not sure why THAT is, but that seems to be the trend.
 
Evidence that the European Customers are not getting them as quickly.

NOT evidence that Apple has done something specifically to ensure that Europeans get them less quickly. If you guys get tracking numbers FROM China in the next couple of days; then that's utter and pure BS and I'll be right there with the rallying cry with you. That's favoritism.

But if it's as many suspect; and these are indeed shipped; but not yet to a warehouse/distribution center? And that, like all previous orders, European customers don't get any updates to P4S or Shipped until they are AT the distribution center? Then chances are you'll see them in a couple of days, and they were still shipped as quickly as possible. The issue, then, is a lack of information. And I'm not sure why THAT is, but that seems to be the trend.
IF we get information in the next day or two, I will happily take back my words however that still doesn't give us that launch day feeling that many of us were hoping for, who ordered literally minutes after the store opened. But I can live with that if we DO get something soon.
 
If you guys get tracking numbers FROM China in the next couple of days; then that's utter and pure BS and I'll be right there with the rallying cry with you. That's favoritism.
Then prepare to rally, because BTO MacBooks have never shipped from within Europe in modern Apple history. :p

Unless they have started making them in Ireland like I supposed yesterday. Wouldn't that be nice!
 
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