2016 Macbook Pro, Order/Shipping Thread

[el-John-o]

Apple'a guidelines state that the TouchBar should not be the only place for options/settings (it should only duplicate on-screen options). So, at least with Apple's own applications, you can continue to work without access to the TouchBar. My inclination is that they pop up when you move the trackpad to the top of the screen (like how apps show the menu in full screen mode now).

That makes sense. I saw those guidelines but in the demo it appeared to my eyes that in photos for example, the touchbar was the only place where the photos were. You scrubbed through on the touchbar and they appeared, but there wasn't a corresponding flow of photos underneath. Makes sense that the UI would re-appear when the cursor moves near.

Not working with an external keyboard setup would be really short sighted and although Apple has had their failures; they are usually good about thinking of that kind of stuff. (Though the hockey puck mouse got through somehow...)

 

[JMac1996]

Hello guys,

can someone please help me out with some questions? I ordered mine (15" late 2016) on Saturday.
So when does a customer regulary charge for the purchased macbook? Instantaneously after purchase or when the product get's shipped?
I'm just wondering.

 

[Rubenfer]

I create a Telegram group for talk about new MacBook Pro orders. If any want to join is: https://telegram.me/MacBookProOrders/

 

[Foss]

Hello guys,

can someone please help me out with some questions? I ordered mine (15" late 2016) on Saturday.
So when does a customer regulary charge for the purchased macbook? Instantaneously after purchase or when the product get's shipped?
I'm just wondering.

It gets charged once the order changes to "Preparing to Ship" status. Then normally, it moves to "Shipped" status within the same 24 hours or in the outlier case (some iPhone 7's for example) up to a couple days afterwards.

 

[shareef777]

Hello guys,

can someone please help me out with some questions? I ordered mine (15" late 2016) on Saturday.
So when does a customer regulary charge for the purchased macbook? Instantaneously after purchase or when the product get's shipped?
I'm just wondering.

When it's shipped.

 

[el-John-o]

Hello guys,

can someone please help me out with some questions? I ordered mine (15" late 2016) on Saturday.
So when does a customer regulary charge for the purchased macbook? Instantaneously after purchase or when the product get's shipped?
I'm just wondering.

When the product ships. Your order status will change to "preparing for shipment" and shortly after, your card will be charged and you'll get an e-mail saying "Your order has shipped", provided the charge goes through.

 

[JMac1996]

It gets charged once the order changes to "Preparing to Ship" status. Then normally, it moves to "Shipped" status within the same 24 hours or in the outlier case (some iPhone 7's for example) up to a couple days afterwards.

When it's shipped.

Thank you guys.
I can't sleep anymore. This machine is getting me way to exited.

 

[el-John-o]

The 455 seems kind of redundant to me, because I reckon at the same $2,799 price, 2.6GHz/512GB/460 is the better option for most use cases than 2.7GHz/512GB/455. I personally went for 2.6GHz/512GB/460, the GPU in my 2012 gets a right beating, but I've never done much to stretch the CPU.

Part of it is the weird way the configurator is setup. You can order the "base model" 15" with touchbar which runs $2,400 (USD). Which some folks are going to do; they just want the cheapest 15" model. That model can be upgraded to the 460. So for some, that's a great value. 256GB of Storage and the "slower" (still plenty fast) CPU, but upgraded graphics.

The next tier comes with the 455, and bumped up base storage and CPU, and folks buying that model are already paying a few hundred dollars more for better specs. So what's another $100 for the 460?

The 460 upgrade on the "base" model is an 8% price increase. On the "bumped up" model (the second option when you start BTO configuration) it's only a 3% increase. Frankly, anyone spending $2800 on a laptop probably isn't going to flinch at $100 to increase all-important GPU performance.

So it makes a lot of sense that folks either want the $2400 base model vanilla as configured, perhaps with a storage bump, or want more performance and would be silly to skip out on the 460 just to save 3%.

 

[shareef777]

Part of it is the weird way the configurator is setup. You can order the "base model" 15" with touchbar which runs $2,400 (USD). Which some folks are going to do; they just want the cheapest 15" model. That model can be upgraded to the 460. So for some, that's a great value. 256GB of Storage and the "slower" (still plenty fast) CPU, but upgraded graphics.

The next tier comes with the 455, and bumped up base storage and CPU, and folks buying that model are already paying a few hundred dollars more for better specs. So what's another $100 for the 460?

The 460 upgrade on the "base" model is an 8% price increase. On the "bumped up" model (the second option when you start BTO configuration) it's only a 3% increase. Frankly, anyone spending $2800 on a laptop probably isn't going to flinch at $100 to increase all-important GPU performance.

So it makes a lot of sense that folks either want the $2400 base model vanilla as configured, perhaps with a storage bump, or want more performance and would be silly to skip out on the 460 just to save 3%.

Simply put the 455 is just an excuse to get another $100 from their customers for the 460.

 

[GZR]

Out for delivery (stock non-touch)- Now waiting for the doorbell to ring

 

[iphone joe]

I finally made the purchase. The configuration I bought says it will be available at my apple store on December 14 . Do you think it may be ready sooner???

 

[The Martian]

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/10/31/macbooks-2017-price-cuts-32gb-ram/

I wonder how many are going to cancel their orders and wait for the update in 2017

I'm not

Is anyone even sure there will be another update in 2017 or is it just rumors and speculation? I'll stick with my tangible product not some rumor or pipe dream!

 

[unashamedgeek]

Is anyone even sure there will be another update in 2017 or is it just rumors and speculation? I'll stick with my tangible product not some rumor or pipe dream!

It is all rumors. However, there will be another update at some time. If you always wait for the latest, greatest change, you'll never buy anything. Within seconds of next MBP release (or before even), there will be a thread about waiting for whatever people wished they had gotten.

 

[shareef777]

It is all rumors. However, there will be another update at some time. If you always wait for the latest, greatest change, you'll never buy anything. Within seconds of next MBP release (or before even), there will be a thread about waiting for whatever people wished they had gotten.

Just like the 'Steve wouldn't let this happen' threads, 'Apple is doomed' threads, and on, and on, and on.

 

[Nate.]

Just like the 'Steve wouldn't let this happen' threads, 'Apple is doomed' threads, and on, and on, and on.

The funny thing is the only difference between Apple now and Apple under Steve, is Tim Cook just releases products and gets onto making the next.. Steve released products, laughed at people that thought they weren't good enough, and then got onto making the next..

Apple has never been a company that cares what people think, that's why I love them so much.

 

[JMac1996]

The funny thing is the only difference between Apple now and Apple under Steve, is Tim Cook just releases products and gets onto making the next.. Steve released products, laughed at people that thought they weren't good enough, and then got onto making the next..

Apple has never been a company that cares what people think, that's why I love them so much.

I like the strategy of Tim Cook better
But that's personal preference.
This company releases good tech.

 

[el-John-o]

The funny thing is the only difference between Apple now and Apple under Steve, is Tim Cook just releases products and gets onto making the next.. Steve released products, laughed at people that thought they weren't good enough, and then got onto making the next..

Apple has never been a company that cares what people think, that's why I love them so much.

Steve Jobs is the reason for this direction people hate so much. Prior to the second coming (er.. maybe I should come up with a better way of referring to that..), Apple made all kinds of cool stuff for Pro customers. Powerful Power Macintosh computers, some of the best flatbed scanners money could buy (digital imaging was in it's infancy! REAL pro photographers were using film and scanning their images!), some of the best printers. They had PDA's (well, those weren't great; but they had them!). Apple was a pro company and almost nothing but. Steve Jobs came back and axed all of it. ALL OF IT. He torched Apple's entire line of "pro" stuff in favor of a slightly refreshed Power Macintosh while he commissioned Jony Ive to produce the iMac and the iPod. Sure, pro desktop computers and fast notebooks would still come; but they've been an afterthought ever since.

This is NOT new. I still remember hearing on forums just like these "Apple is an iPod company now, that's all they care about". Somehow, it worked. Somehow, it got even better for pro-consumers without the flatbed scanners and beige Power Macintosh computers. (The whole "design over power" when the trash can Mac Pro's came out was also said about the translucent plastic PowerMac's that replaced the former beige models.) But every year, an announcement, "This is the end! I'm buying Windows! Never again! Apple hates pro's!". But they buy it anyway. Then suddenly it's the holy grail, "Never again! They should go back to last years that I forgot I hated! This is the end! Apple hate's pros!" and again... and again... and again...

"Apple: Hating pro consumers and secretly plotting to completely unravel the content creation business since 1998. But somehow only since xxxx" Replace "xxxx" with whatever year you're reading this in.

 

[Ma2k5]

People who have used dGPU versions of the rMBP, how often does the dGPU gets used when you'd rather it just work on the iGPU to save battery/less noise & heat?

Does it regularly just start turning on when you're streaming, browsing, doing light activities which the iGPU could handle quite easily?

I am guessing some people have resorted to using apps to disable the dGPU, but I'd rather not have to do this.

 

[Nate.]

Steve Jobs is the reason for this direction people hate so much. Prior to the second coming (er.. maybe I should come up with a better way of referring to that..), Apple made all kinds of cool stuff for Pro customers. Powerful Power Macintosh computers, some of the best flatbed scanners money could buy (digital imaging was in it's infancy! REAL pro photographers were using film and scanning their images!), some of the best printers. They had PDA's (well, those weren't great; but they had them!). Apple was a pro company and almost nothing but. Steve Jobs came back and axed all of it. ALL OF IT. He torched Apple's entire line of "pro" stuff in favor of a slightly refreshed Power Macintosh while he commissioned Jony Ive to produce the iMac and the iPod. Sure, pro desktop computers and fast notebooks would still come; but they've been an afterthought ever since.

This is NOT new. I still remember hearing on forums just like these "Apple is an iPod company now, that's all they care about". Somehow, it worked. Somehow, it got even better for pro-consumers without the flatbed scanners and beige Power Macintosh computers. (The whole "design over power" when the trash can Mac Pro's came out was also said about the translucent plastic PowerMac's that replaced the former beige models.) But every year, an announcement, "This is the end! I'm buying Windows! Never again! Apple hates pro's!". But they buy it anyway. Then suddenly it's the holy grail, "Never again! They should go back to last years that I forgot I hated! This is the end! Apple hate's pros!" and again... and again... and again...

"Apple: Hating pro consumers and secretly plotting to completely unravel the content creation business since 1998. But somehow only since xxxx" Replace "xxxx" with whatever year you're reading this in.

Yup. Not only do they hate the pros, but the consumer.. but eventually the consumers come around.. and then the pros right? Sometimes vice-versa I guess.

The iPod was destined to flop.

Most new additions or revisions to any of the Mac lines were destined to flop.

The iPad? A flop, who even needs one right?

The iPhone and it's renditions were all the "end of Apple" and destined to flop.

But at the end of the day all of these products are among the most successful in the world and needless to say masters of their class. Every year I too hear people threatening to switch to *insert better product here*, and most of them end up coming back or admitting in the end that the Apple counterpart is better. Let's be honest, if you're using Apple products odds are you didn't want the alternative in the first place. I've tried things like the Surface (had the original and the SP4), yeah they're cool, but they have more bugs than any product I've ever used. Not only that, but the touchscreen is poor for artists and creatives (the main people who threaten to flee Apple at every product launch they don't like), the specs are even worse than MacBooks for most of them and longevity is laughable, and maybe worst of all.. it's running Windows. At the end of the day, it's a nice concept, but there's a reason most people I see haven't switched from their trusty MacBook to them.

People make fun of the "courage" thing, but we can't forget that Apple's past courageous acts against the industry and the mainstream are what brought them to where they are now and contributed to the sense of "magic" that many see in their products.

At the end of the day simply nothing compares, Apple does "being different" best.. they are the "think different" company after all.

 

[el-John-o]

People who have used dGPU versions of the rMBP, how often does the dGPU gets used when you'd rather it just work on the iGPU to save battery/less noise & heat?

Does it regularly just start turning on when you're streaming, browsing, doing light activities which the iGPU could handle quite easily?

I am guessing some people have resorted to using apps to disable the dGPU, but I'd rather not have to do this.

The dedicated GPU is not needed for streaming video, user interface elements, et al. It does not come on for those sorts of activities. There are apps that let you see whether or not it's on and even disable it. Just to be safe, if I were you, I'd go that route anyway. If you're on a long haul flight without power, for example, or in some other situation where charging isn't practical; it's probably best to just disable that. However, Apple does a pretty good job here. The dedicated GPU comes on when it needs to. But in a lot of ways it's at the mercy of the developer. Light duty but poorly coded applications could trigger the dGPU. And some people are surprised to find that applications like Photoshop can trigger it as well; but indeed those applications take advantage of it. The dedicated GPU is not a "last resort option" for when the "integrated GPU just can't handle it". It's used whenever it can provide any sort of advantage to the user. But the iGPU is plenty fast enough to handle a lot of mundane tasks (Streaming, browsing, etc.) without breaking a sweat. Since usage on the iGPU or the dGPU wouldn't change the users experience, the dGPU remains in it's slumber.

 

[JamboJames]

Purchased on Friday - Delivery 3-4 weeks...25 Nov - 2 Dec
Silver 13" MacBook Pro w/ Touch Bar
256GB Flash
16GB SDRAM


Upgrading from
11" Mid-2012 Macbook Air
1.7GHz i5
8GB

 

[unashamedgeek]

But the iGPU is plenty fast enough to handle a lot of mundane tasks (Streaming, browsing, etc.) without breaking a sweat.

I've read some people say that Chrome triggers it, maybe due to some bad coding with that application. Have you seen this? I'm coming back to Mac after being away for a couple of years so I'm not sure and back then I was using an Air so my experience wouldn't matter anyways.

 

[csrini1]

I think we will start seeing shipments next week

 

[el-John-o]

I've read some people say that Chrome triggers it, maybe due to some bad coding with that application. Have you seen this? I'm coming back to Mac after being away for a couple of years so I'm not sure and back then I was using an Air so my experience wouldn't matter anyways.

Chrome can be a resource hog; but it'll work just fine with the iGPU. Chrome might be a situation where you're best to use an application to disable the dedicated GPU in order to save battery life.

 

[CodeSpyder]

There's been a lot of negative threads about the new MacBook Pro and it seems that every thread has been countered by additional data that supports upgrading if the user feels it's in their best interest. This thread seems to be a haven for positive thoughts, so I'm going to hang out here more often. I almost cancelled my order based on the first-blush negative threads. I'm glad that I didn't. Now, I'm thinking about that LG 5K display. I hope it's in Apple stores this December, at least to check out. Of course, I'm also thinking about the MBP delivery. I hope that we start seeing folks with touch bars saying that it's going into delivery.