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2018 MacBook Pro Models Now Available for In-Store Pickup in the United States

theheadguy said:
Amazing to spend that much on a laptop and then have the plethora of dongles hanging it out just to make connections to other cords...
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heh.. it's not the word dongles that makes your description sound like a letdown of a situation..

Amazing to spend that much on a laptop and then have the plethora of connections to other cords...
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you see? ;)

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idk, call me spoiled but i get bummed when i just have to plug the power in..
wireless ftw
 
jacklivehere said:
Good, just got bestbuy to price match with Apple edu price and $150 student offer . Didn’t get beats instead got $150 off
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I'm headed to BestBuy to do the exact same thing tomorrow. Hopefully I'm as successful.
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TimmeyCook said:
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This is better, right? One cable that works basically with one computer, because it's not USB-C.
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To be fair, it also has a legit HDMI port that can connect to pretty much anything out there (Monitor/TV/Projector). Losing that, the Magsafe and the built in SD are things that I DO NOT look forward to in my new purchase.
 
tekboi said:
Good specs. But I still don't feel like spending hundreds on adapters to be able to work on this thing...
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The spending doesn't matter really. It's peanuts compared to the cost of the machine.

But yeah - it's the pain in the aXX of losing these stupid dongles all the time an having to buy them over and over, and forgetting to put them away or take them with you - that's the real thing I don't like.
 
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Dave245 said:
These machines are not aimed at the “regular Joe” they are Pro machines, it would be a complete waste for anyone to buy one just to use for surfing the web.
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That doesn’t answer the question.

Certainly a machine of this caliber isn’t for people who just checks mail or watch youtube.

Let me rephrase..

When a “pro” is not working on something heavily resource demanding - does he see the system to be snappier and more responsive? Everything just a few milliseconds faster than last gen?
 
Sovon Halder said:
That doesn’t answer the question.

Certainly a machine of this caliber isn’t for people who just checks mail or watch youtube.

Let me rephrase..

When a “pro” is not working on something heavily resource demanding - does he see the system to be snappier and more responsive? Everything just a few milliseconds faster than last gen?
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Now that you have rephrased it makes more sense :) i think it would really depend on what the person is doing? for example there may be a benefit when having a lot of Safari tabs open (example being around 10 or more) but just surfing the web no, my MacBook Pro can surface the web just as fast as my 2012 iMac can BUT when it comes to things like Final Cut Pro X editing and having multiple apps open my 2012 iMac is a lot better.

These new MacBook Pro's will certainly benefit people who are pushing them with tasks such as editing multiple streams of 4K footage or when working with heavy loads in Photo shop, but during any down time i don't see them being any snappier unless go course you are playing games.
 
Just priced mine up in NZ - almost $8,000 NZD. Quite a lot more than my 2012 MBP - but, I always buy the top configuration (2TB though not 4). I always keep machine for about 4 years. As a business too (FCP/CC etc) - That works out at less than $2k a year. Our studio day rate here is about $1k a day - so it's a no brainer for creative professionals. Cheap to be honest for what it does :)
 
Dave245 said:
Now that you have rephrased it makes more sense :) i think it would really depend on what the person is doing? for example there may be a benefit when having a lot of Safari tabs open (example being around 10 or more) but just surfing the web no, my MacBook Pro can surface the web just as fast as my 2012 iMac can BUT when it comes to things like Final Cut Pro X editing and having multiple apps open my 2012 iMac is a lot better.

These new MacBook Pro's will certainly benefit people who are pushing them with tasks such as editing multiple streams of 4K footage or when working with heavy loads in Photo shop, but during any down time i don't see them being any snappier unless go course you are playing games.
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I am in doubt and sort of irritated.

I love new technology coming out cause it’s good for everyone in grander scheme but my MBP TB 13” which I bought just 6 months ago, has become a generation old now.

Coming from an old Asus laptop I love using my laptop. But the beta Mojave has slowed it down a little bit; hope it gets fixed in the final release.

I’m a UI Designer / Web developer by profession. I assume the new generation would be faster in Photoshop and Illustrator.

What I was curious about is how much the quad core helps, in terms of the syatem being overall fast (snappier) compared to my 2017 13” TB MBP.
 
Rogifan said:
All you have to do is look at Apple’s gross margins which have remained consistent even considering a larger percentage of their revenue is higher margin stuff like services. If Apple really was price gouging people wouldn’t their margins be a lot higher?
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TimmeyCook said:
1. (as said) Inflation, and Apple keeps adding more things.

2. Apple choose to go for faster SSD's than for larger SSD's, and it's a good choice considering Microsoft Excel files are not getting bigger, and with HEVC and HEIF actual files are actually smaller. Also, nowadays everyone has everything on the cloud, or if you are one of "those guys", your local NAS storage.
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csurfr said:
The prices have barely changed, while the performance has increased at a minimum of 10x. I’d say it’s a hell of a value for a fantastic machine.
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C’mon man. I have Adobe CC, all of my coding apps, macOS (obviously) among other things and still have over 220gb available on my 2017 15”.
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You guys seem totally unaware of Moore’s law, that says price/performance in the IT industry typically doubles every 9 months.
Instead we have Cook’s law, where relative price nearly doubles every year (with y.o.y performance increase only ≈ 10% and lots of functionality just being abandoned)
More significant for Apple is the TouchBar economy: selling the emoji generation of Pro’s an outrageously expensive gimmick to keep them calm with a perceivedly free stream of emojis (and to keep Phil on board of course..)
Happy dongling !
LOL
 
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buddhahacker said:
I don't know about everyone out there but these prices are outrageous. I purchased my first iBook in 2002 and purchased several MBP over the years. They were always pricey but worth it. The last purchase was an entry level MBP in 2015 for $1,200. Now the entry level is over $1,700. Beyond my "worth it" barrier. Can't justify these prices for these specs. I guess I'm heading to the used market or Win10. For those purchasing, enjoy them!
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No, the entry-level MBP is $1,300, not $1,700.
 
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Tech198 said:
Everything else if maxed out and here you have a 720p camera only ... This piece never fits with Apple... Particularly when Apple does care about the front facing camera on iPhone.

They probably feel, more people would use the camera on iPhone as a way not to update it on the Mac.

"Technology not available" is not an answer anymore, as i's basically the same sensor in iPhone.
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It absolutely is an answer, as the iPhone is far thicker than the MacBook screen. That's why Huawei went with the absurd approach of putting the camera inside the keyboard, and Dell with the equally bad approach of putting it at the bottom of the screen.

Turns out both are horrible angles (who could have known?).
 
BuddyTronic said:
The spending doesn't matter really. It's peanuts compared to the cost of the machine.

But yeah - it's the pain in the aXX of losing these stupid dongles all the time an having to buy them over and over, and forgetting to put them away or take them with you - that's the real thing I don't like.
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Serious question. How do people lose dongles/cords/etc all of the time? I have a colleague that consistently loses her charging cords and earbuds.

I am not saying that I don’t lose items; I lost a pocket square once on a business trip...it was my favorite. I just don’t understand how people can lose items so frequently that they have to purchase three, six or three hundred of the same item.

Tminus until I lose my wireless charger. Thanks.
 
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MauiPa said:
and you have obviously enlightened us with your in-depth comparison of similarly equipped laptops from other vendors? I did, for the latest 8th generation Intel chips and high quality builds, pricing is within 20% and that doesn't discount for quality of components on some vendors, like slower RAM, slower SSD, inferior screens, inferior builds, and who knows what else. Sounds like you just don't dig a premium build product by anyone, not just Apple

And you can upgrade the SSD, but why? You need super fast access to that much data? I prefer to keep working data on my laptop, and to archive and backup all the stuff I'm not working on. Each to their own I guess. Some people prefer a slower and bigger SSD, some people still use HDDs.
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First of all 20% is a huge margin, and second of all I doubt you'll find even one other 2400 dollar laptop with only a 256GB SSD. You're also assuming all different parts must be inferior, when actually some of them are superior.
 
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chucker23n1 said:
It says nothing like that.
It says the amount of transistors on a chip doubles every 24 months. It says nothing about performance, nor about price, nor about 9 months.
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You’re right (it indeed is rather 18....24 months) and wrong (density has always helped price/performance) and Moore’s effect is supposed to slow down by physical limitations (in chip layer nanometers, yet to be reached)
However in practice, ambient technologies (think of SSD and LDRAM density/price) still gain far more than Apple offers, effectively meaning that increasing margins goes before offering the best for its customers.
That was my point.
 
geromi912 said:
Thing is nobody asked for true tone or touch bar, but you have no option but to get them if you want 45w cpu and dGPU in a macbook. The touchbar is still hilariously under-utilised 2 years after introduction and even Apple themselves never mentioned it since 2016. There is little 3rd party support. The faster components and TB 3 should be accounted for in the natural technological improvements and not considered a "new feature". It also ships with a 3 year old graphics card that at the point of release was already low end.
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You're buying a mac mini desktop with state-of-the-art dual core HASWELL ultra low power mobile components? Smart choice.
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I said new Mac Mini, why would I buy the current one? I wouldn't buy it in 2014, let alone now.
 
SteveJUAE said:
Good news is it's not necessary to buy AC just for KB issues if the 2018 has similar problems to 2015-2017 rMB/MBP we know that Apple will introduce a Exchange and Repair Extension Program

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Enjoy :)
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God for a laptop this expensive I’d get it regardless. I can’t imagine spending $2k-$6k on a machine and now getting AppleCare. Never know what will happen, manufacturing or accident wise.
 
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geromi912 said:
Thing is nobody asked for true tone or touch bar, but you have no option but to get them if you want 45w cpu and dGPU in a macbook. The touchbar is still hilariously under-utilised 2 years after introduction and even Apple themselves never mentioned it since 2016. There is little 3rd party support. The faster components and TB 3 should be accounted for in the natural technological improvements and not considered a "new feature". It also ships with a 3 year old graphics card that at the point of release was already low end.
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You're buying a mac mini desktop with state-of-the-art dual core HASWELL ultra low power mobile components? Smart choice.
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I have a feeling that Apple will quietly ditch touch bar just like 3D touch on iPhone after a few years because of underutilization and meaninglessly increasing the production difficulties of smartphone screen.
 
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