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The original 15" Retina started at $2199 with 256GB flash storage, GeForce GT 650M and world's highest-resolution notebook display at that time. And now, here we are, 6 years later with the same amount of base storage and the same resolution display, but $200 more expensive? Pure greed if you ask me.

1. (as said) Inflation, and Apple keeps adding more things.

2. Apple choose to go for faster SSD's than for larger SSD's, and it's a good choice considering Microsoft Excel files are not getting bigger, and with HEVC and HEIF actual files are actually smaller. Also, nowadays everyone has everything on the cloud, or if you are one of "those guys", your local NAS storage.
 
I am kind of surprised that the new models still only come with 720p FaceTime camera.

Everything else if maxed out and here you have a 720p camera only ... This piece never fits with Apple... Particularly when Apple does care about the front facing camera on iPhone.

They probably feel, more people would use the camera on iPhone as a way not to update it on the Mac.

"Technology not available" is not an answer anymore, as i's basically the same sensor in iPhone.
 
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Amazing to spend that much on a laptop and then have the plethora of dongles hanging it out just to make connections to other cords...

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I agree. Truly an abomination!!!
 
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I agree. Truly an abomination!!!

I guess I should post a picture of my desk where I have a single wire to my ElGato dock that has GBe, audio, several USB devices, AND two monitors, one 4K and one 3440x1440. Even charges he laptop.

Of course this is not unique to the MBP, my X1Carbon connects to the same stuff via a single TB3 cable as well. I love TB3. In fact my X1C has a full complement of ports but the only ones that ever see a cable is the TB3.
 
Good specs. But I still don't feel like spending hundreds on adapters to be able to work on this thing...

I keep seeing these ridiculous posts almost two years in. Unless you’re getting some kind of TB3 hub (which also acts as a charger and can usually feed two monitors—and the one from Pluggable is like 225) the adapters are nowhere near in that range. Can we just drop this nonsense, please.
 
I’m still using a 2012 MacBook Pro with Retina display. I don’t need a new machine yet but I’m curious if the 2018 models are better in terms of battery life and the keyboard compared to last year’s model.
I also have a 2012 Retina MBP (15”) and it works perfectly. It is slightly slower since the many security updates and software upgrades the last 2 years, but overall extremely capable. The only ‘shortcoming’* is that I elected to purchase only 8 GB memory, which is just barely enough if I open more than one or two resource-intensive applications, ie Photoshop and InDesign or Chrome. So I’m a little shocked to see that A) Apple is offering ANY base MBP with only 8GB of RAM!, and at $1800 at that, and B) still no REAL Video Card in the 13” MBP, just the built in Intel (SAD!).
*I don’t hold Apple responsible for my choice. Though I was disappointed when 4 months after I purchased my MBP they began to include 16GB RAM in the model I had purchased. I did get a real video card, which I thought would be a good choice over just the internal Intel VRAM.

What I would REALLY LIKE TO KNOW — from anyone who purchases one of these new MBP’s is have the new processors addressed the very real slowdowns we all have had to suffer through thanks to Intel’s security disasters uncovered last year? Both my iMac—which is from 2015—and laptop now stutter when browsing web pages.

SO...I also don’t need a new MBP, but I really want to purchase one!
 
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$6,700 and still no SD card slot or HDMI... Yeah, it's totally a "pro" product...

Oh yeah. HDMI is “pro.” I wish they’d drop one of those pesky 40Gbps connectors that can be used for... like... everything for HDMI or an SD card.

Connecting and saturating striped SSDs in an external RAID configuration is pro. Running multiple 5K monitors is pro. 10G Ethernet is pro. Using an eGPU is pro. (Also, finally having an interface that doesn’t suck for docking stations is nice.)

Hooking up your laptop to the TV or your TN panel monitor? Not so much. (And FFS, USB-C to HDMI can be had for like $5 which is nothing if you’re legitimately dealing with pro gear.)

The best part about TB3 is that I can completely customize the port configuration on my laptop rather and be stuck with... whatever.
 
The keyboard is somewhat quieter, but still feels awful to me - not enough travel - like typing on glass. Yech. And the trackpad is still too big, and USB-C only is still a nuisance.

On the other hand, it's significantly faster than the 2017 - 6 cores vs 4 helps with multi-core aware apps. It does run hot under load - the fans are whirring away more than they did on the 2017.
 
Plethora of dongles (aka adapters in the adult world) to make connections other cords? Read again. Two USB-C to USB-A 3.1 **CABLES**. Not adapters. Did you ever have to purchase basic cables for your computers?

If you can't afford basic I/O cables at $9 each, you're not going to be able to afford an Apple laptop.

With respect to RJ45 ethernet, how long has it been since Apple offered a female RJ45 ethernet port on a laptop? Certainly not on a 2015 MBP that everyone seems to covet now.

Same whiners who held on to the non-retina MBPs in 2012. I imagine it was the same group that was raging over the death of the floppy and the move to all USB-A input at the expense of legacy ports. I had my MacBook Air hooked up to an Elgato TB hub at the time and loved it. At home I had everything and on the road I had an ultraportable. I just wished I didn’t need another connector for power.

Now, I go to the office and plug in one cable for a 5K display, input devices, Ethernet, and power. Same thing at home. On the road I carry a power adapter. That’s it. On the rare occasion I’m on the road and need anything else I bring an appropriate device (almost always Ethernet and for certain specialist network I can connect multiple Ethernet adapters).

I have literally used my TB3 to TB to FireWire setup more times than HDMI or an SD card. The point isn’t that my use case is more common or more “pro” but rather that I have a laptop that is incredibly adaptable. (Hell, I still have to use serial ports from time to time in the course of professional networking. Should a “pro” laptop need serial ports? Lol.)

TB3 is awesome. 4x is especially awesome. I really hope the next bump on the 12” MacBook updates the single port to TB3.
 
The original 15" Retina started at $2199 with 256GB flash storage, GeForce GT 650M and world's highest-resolution notebook display at that time. And now, here we are, 6 years later with the same amount of base storage and the same resolution display, but $200 more expensive? Pure greed if you ask me.
While I agree that base unit pricing should include 512GB storage at the $2400 price —just because of how pricing has dropped for SSD storage in 6 years(!), inflation from 2012 to 2018 actually means that $2200 in 2012 is equivalent to $2400 in 2018! SAD but true! Even if you invested those $2200 in 2012, you would have needed well over a 3% return to keep pace with inflation. And, sadly, inflation is RISING. Since Trump took office in 2016 inflation jumped from 1% to 3%. And it is still rising!

Here’s a screen shot from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
 

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In the past Apple sold base configs and usually a single predetermined higher end config in store. They need to stock some 16GB 13” units and even 32GB 15” units as well as stocking some various storage options. Many people will opt for the 512 and terabyte options and it would be nice to have some of those in store.

They sell 3 versions of the 15 pre built in store. Top one was i9, 32 Ram, 1 TB.
 
I wish they’d drop one of those pesky 40Gbps connectors that can be used for... like... everything for HDMI or an SD card.

This logic is sound for systems that are NOT supposed to be portable all-in-one machines. But it doesn't make sense to eliminate helpful ports from portable machines. It results in you having to carry multiple adapters, and that interferes with the simplicity and ease that's supposed to come with a portable computer.

Stop defending nonsensical design decisions. There's room for an SD card slot. There's room for HDMI. No, the laptop doesn't need to keep getting thinner. Theres no reason to eliminate helpful ports. There's no reason for a computer to keep losing features after each design iteration. It's objectively moronic.
 
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I’ll be picking up my 15” tomorrow. I called one of the stores somewhat close to me and asked if they wouldn’t mind holding one for me as I’m currently about 2 hours away. They said they’d be happy to hold it until close of business tomorrow.
 
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I don't know about everyone out there but these prices are outrageous. I purchased my first iBook in 2002 and purchased several MBP over the years. They were always pricey but worth it. The last purchase was an entry level MBP in 2015 for $1,200. Now the entry level is over $1,700. Beyond my "worth it" barrier. Can't justify these prices for these specs. I guess I'm heading to the used market or Win10. For those purchasing, enjoy them!
 
and you have obviously enlightened us with your in-depth comparison of similarly equipped laptops from other vendors? I did, for the latest 8th generation Intel chips and high quality builds, pricing is within 20% and that doesn't discount for quality of components on some vendors, like slower RAM, slower SSD, inferior screens, inferior builds, and who knows what else. Sounds like you just don't dig a premium build product by anyone, not just Apple

And you can upgrade the SSD, but why? You need super fast access to that much data? I prefer to keep working data on my laptop, and to archive and backup all the stuff I'm not working on. Each to their own I guess. Some people prefer a slower and bigger SSD, some people still use HDDs.

That is correct. I’m impartial. I wouldn’t recommend a $2,400 laptop to anyone with only 256 of SSD storage. That’s barely enough space for an OS, Adobe creative suite, and a few temp files.

I look up machines on a weekly basis. I own an IT Consulting company, and I used to work for Apple ;)

That’s just insane for that little local storage.
 
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