2019 iPhones Could Feature Smaller Notch as Apple Supplier Announces Under-Display Light and Proximity Sensors

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The ambient light and proximity sensor are just a small portion of the array in the notch.

For the notch to be substantially removed, they’d have to replace the flood illuminate, the infra red dot projector and its IR camera with something entirely different. This would still leave the camera and speaker.

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There are Camera that combines Infra Red together, whether that works well enough for Apple is a different questions though. Speaker can be done via on Screen OLED sound, although I have yet to see a decent implementation on this for phone.

No idea about Mic, Dot Projector. But at least it is quite possible to shrink it by half. ( Which brings hope to a small X like SE design, since the notch size matter a lot for small phones. )

 

[ipedro]

There are Camera that combines Infra Red together, whether that works well enough for Apple is a different questions though. Speaker can be done via on Screen OLED sound, although I have yet to see a decent implementation on this for phone.

No idea about Mic, Dot Projector. But at least it is quite possible to shrink it by half. ( Which brings hope to a small X like SE design, since the notch size matter a lot for small phones. )

TrueDepth requires 2 separate cameras at a certain distance from each other to perceive depth, like our eyes do.

 

[ZipZilla]

the notch is the reason for slow sales. Eliminate it and everybody upgrades

 

[Tech198]

ya i guess your right. notch and sensors under the display would be much easier to do than Touch/FaceID.

Start small first, then work up

the notch is the reason for slow sales. Eliminate it and everybody upgrades

haha..i didn't realize people hated the notch THAT much.

 

[GuruZac]

Some bezel is good. I don't want my phone to think I'm constantly touching the edges of the screen when I'm just trying to hold it in my hand.

I've actually noticed this using my XR. I find myself making a lot more accidental gestures than I did on my 7 Plus. A natural consequence of gesture based operation vs home button.

 

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TrueDepth requires 2 separate cameras at a certain distance from each other to perceive depth, like our eyes do.

Arh...... that makes shrinking it by half a lot more difficult......

 

[davester]

A step closer to the sheet of glass iPhone that Ive wants so badly

 

[manu chao]

There are Camera that combines Infra Red together, whether that works well enough for Apple is a different questions though.

Basically all 'normal' digital cameras need an IR cut-off filter in front of the actual imaging sensor since the silicon that actually detects the light is also sensitive to IR. Without it you tend to get some weird colour shifts in the reds as the colour filters in front of the blue and green pixels tend to filter out IR already reasonably well (these colours shifts will be a function of how much IR light your scene has).

There are a handful of first-party cameras without an IR filter (or one that leaves at least most of it through), Canon 60Da and Nikon D810a (from 2012 and 2015, respectively) are the most recent ones. The 'a' stands for astro as enabling these cameras to register IR light allows documenting a number of otherwise invisible features of the universe. While the software in these cameras tries to account for the colour shifts in the reds due to IR light, it cannot really fully get rid of them as they vary as a function of the IR light coming from your subject. It is also possible to remove the IR filter from a range of standard cameras (difficulty depends on the specific models) but this might also remove other things you might want to have kept (like AA filter).

Apart from astrophotography, these cameras are also used to record rather surreal images by adding a black filter that cuts out the visible light but lets the IR light pass, though for that you'd probably want the CFA filters removed as well (the red, green, and blue filters in front of the respective pixels) as you would want equal IR filtration in front of all pixels. This is what dedicated IR cameras look like, essentially B&W sensors with no colour filtration but a black filter to block all the the non-IR light. Though depending on specific use, you might want to block varying amounts of the visible light.

 

[iPhonefreak79]

sounds EXCITING!

 

[The Game 161]

the notch is the reason for slow sales. Eliminate it and everybody upgrades

Completely false