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In order words, they going to keep rumoring fast charging until it actually happens. And then whoever was the first to said it "right" for that year gets "credited"?
 
Probably not. But in all seriousness, that's great that you can move entirely to wireless. I personally can't afford that. I'm actually using a Pixel 2 XL and have a 2017 mbp, so I am now even more tied into the USB-C life. And it's great. When Apple decides to finally ditch lightning, that'll be even better.

I have so many USB c fast charging bricks laying around I don’t need anymore, simple as that. The last time I used a power brick that came in a phone box was with the iPhone 3g, enough e-waste apple.

Well if you have a pixel 2 xl it shouldn’t matter if iPhones have lighting or usb c.

I hope apple keeps the lightening cable, I like it.
 
All sorts of disgraceful that these weren’t included as standard. Post-Jobs you cannot but they greatest tech from Apple anymore even if you buy the top end device in the line. Greedy is as greedy does.
 
And previous models would have to buy a dongle.
Everybody will have to buy a dongle. If something happens to my cable, or I lose it, or forget to pack it and have to buy a new one, I'll have to find not only a a USB-C cable, but one that goes to a Lightning port. Or, a USB-A to USB-C dongle that will adapt the most common iPhone cord available worldwide.
 
Ohh it’s going to be so much fun trying to stick the USB-c end into the phone and the lightning end into the charger. Cannot wait for the confusion and destroyed ports. You go Tim.
 
Please please please just have USB-C on the phone.
Why? so the 6 dorks on the internet who care about it can have it, while the rest of hundreds of millions of iPhone customers who prefer the cable just not change can be thoroughly inconvenienced?

Yeah. Not happening.
[doublepost=1556568922][/doublepost]Yeah this makes. All those USB-C cables you see built into infrastructure everywhere are totally ready for it! Oh wait...
 
This, like any time over the last 12 years, would be a great time for Apple to up its game on its fragile totally **** self destructing cables.

Apple's cables are brittle because they're not made of plastic. They're made of a non-toxic gummy substance that is environmentally friendly.

It's not that Apple is incapable of making long lasting cables, it's that they choose to follow strict environmental guidelines. These cables can last long if taken care of. Stretching or twisting them will cause them to tear. Knotting them up in your pockets or pulling at them from the cable side will guarantee a short life. On the other hand, wrapping them in wide loops and pulling from the plug, will keep them around for long. I still have cables from most of my iPhones.
 
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Why? so the 6 dorks on the internet who care about it can have it, while the rest of hundreds of millions of iPhone customers who prefer the cable just not change can be thoroughly inconvenienced?

Yeah. Not happening.
[doublepost=1556568922][/doublepost]Yeah this makes. All those USB-C cables you see built into infrastructure everywhere are totally ready for it! Oh wait...

Yeah, I have seen a single USB-C plug outside of the power bricks I buy myself. Qi, on the other hand is showing up everywhere.
 
OK moving in the right direction. Now how about shipping iPad Pros with the 29W USB-C charger.
You mean the “new” 29W charger that was replaced with a 30W charger? Or the “new” 29W charger that has been superseded with an 18W charger?
 
The 6S doesn't support fast charging. That's why it's the same result to 94-95 percent.

Didn't know that! I'll have to try the same test with my IP Xs and my iPad Pro 10.5.
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Wondering why you chose to use an iPhone 6S instead of your iPhone XS in your signature. Did you also use the iPad Air in your signature? I don't think either one of those devices supports fast charging in the sense of actual PD.
Didn't realize the 6S didn't support fast charging. I may try the same test with my IP XS or my iPad Pro.

The main reason I didn't do either of those with my test was I wasn't sure if the 29W might toast my XS.
 
Didn't know that! I'll have to try the same test with my IP Xs and my iPad Pro 10.5.
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Didn't realize the 6S didn't support fast charging. I may try the same test with my IP XS or my iPad Pro.

The main reason I didn't do either of those with my test was I wasn't sure if the 29W might toast my XS.
Nope, it's all regulated anyway.
 
Consumers in Australia have always had cables and power adaptors included in every purchase of an Apple product, you lot in the US be being ripped off, or have very poor consumer laws.

They’re getting the same low-power versions just like everybody else. The article is about Apple switching to the more powerful 18 W adapter with fast charging capability by default for the phones.
 
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wow, what a creative and original comment.
Maybe not creative or original, but it is truthful. Anyone who buys a new-design Apple notebook is not going to automatically have the necessary cable to connect an iPhone. At the time Apple used the 30-pin connector and the Lightning connector, there were good reasons to use a proprietary connector. Now, there aren't so much, anymore, and Apple has even recognized this by ditching the Lightning connector for USB-C on its flagship iPad Pro. It's time to do the same on the rest of its mobile devices.

This is not to say it's time to abandon USB-A entirely, but I expect a newer device that contains only a single USB connector to be using the latest standard. I, for one, am thrilled that when I buy a new MacBook in the next year or so, I'll be able to travel with it and any of my other devices and *not* have to carry a separate charger for the notebook, as it will charge (albeit slowly) from a 12 watt USB-A charger.
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And previous models would have to buy a dongle.
They did that when they abandoned the headphone jack, as well.
 
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I wish USB-C was as satisfying physically as Lightning, but it’s not. It doesn’t have the same click, or really any click, when attaching or detaching a cable.

I still have a pretty low opinion of a consortium that released the atrocious micro-USB: the worst port in the history of all ports! Though USB-C clearly isn’t that bad, it still could’ve been better if it had more of a click.
 
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Apple is really jumping over USB-C for the iPhone, straight to wireless charging. I think that when they drop Lightning, it'll be for a completely sealed phone, with no physical ports at all.
Won't happen for a very long time. What do you do when your completely sealed iPhone 15 is bricked? Do the Geniuses at the Apple Store have some sort of super secret wireless resetter device?

The latest iPhones appear to charge at up to 18 watts via USB-C. I think the fastest Qi chargers charge at maybe half that rate, and also generate a lot of heat (which is wasted energy and leads to battery degradation).
 
Won't happen for a very long time. What do you do when your completely sealed iPhone 15 is bricked? Do the Geniuses at the Apple Store have some sort of super secret wireless resetter device?

There are ways around that. You can have a factory reset chip on the iPhone’s SOC that when triggered, either through a combination of button presses or more creatively, through a pattern of wireless charge pulses, will override everything and wipe the phone.

The latest iPhones appear to charge at up to 18 watts via USB-C. I think the fastest Qi chargers charge at maybe half that rate, and also generate a lot of heat (which is wasted energy and leads to battery degradation).

I get the impression that this was the problem AirPower was meant to solve. Beam forming power delivery can theoretically be more efficient than even wired power. I don’t think Apple has given up on AirPower. Wireless power is too important to the future of Apple’s focus on wearable technology. AirPower was most likely completely reset and they’ll be looking at the problem differently, without the pressure of a public release schedule.
 
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