Sales are down because iPhone users are holding on to their devices longer. Your previous post claiming iOS market share is down because iPhone users are switching to Android and that iOS is “hemorrhaging users” are both lies.
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Sales are down because iPhone users are holding on to their devices longer. Your previous post claiming iOS market share is down because iPhone users are switching to Android and that iOS is “hemorrhaging users” are both lies.
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So this means the GIGANTIC notch will still be there for another design cycle. As a potential switcher, that thing is jarring as hell.
Then again, iOS users are used to it by now, and updates are always welcome additions (in the instances where Apple chooses to NOT remove something useful).
Then again, iOS users are used to it by now, and updates are always welcome additions (in the instances where Apple chooses to NOT remove something useful).
And all my original post that you quoted was saying is that I disagree with that statement. I do not think the new design will prompt the people holding onto their devices longer to drop $900-$1,000 on the new models. I think they will be seeking other alternatives and I think there will be a lot of them doing it. The 6 line remains the best-selling of all the iPhone history and I think the gamble of playing it safe here on the assumption that they have these users for life is a mistake on Apple’s part.
I think this all plays Apple into cards if all will think that new iPhone will be boring and it will blow people mind in many ways. That is what Apple loves. But do not praise day before night. our saying.
That would be a feature I would get excited for. An iPhone that is scratch, shatter, dust resistant and waterproof. The ad pitch would be some dude doing juggling type tricks with his brand new caseless iPhone, all the while Galaxy users with cased phones stand by mouths agape. When pigs fly, I know. But one can dream.
Multi-angle Face ID for all those lazy people who refuse to lean over to have their face recognized. Unbelievable. Life must really tough for those people.
Gating the low light modes behind the pro models won’t make me want to buy the $1149 phones, it’s only going to make me feel bad for buying the $799 one.
The money isn’t going to turn up magically.
A September iPhone preview event coming soon to a theatre near you:
wooo-woooo-woooooo obnoxious crowd screaming when lights dim and some cheesy U2 song is playing in the background.
- Tim Cook appears. Slow starting speech. Announces how successful iOS is yet again for the millionth time. Praising App Store success, apps being downloaded more than McDonald's being served. Compares to competitors and how iOS still dominates everything (but in reality, it is just not true). Begins to compliment how successful Apple Music is and how it enables listening to music in new ways (ooooh aaaah). Talks about how great apple stores are and opening another one in Vietnam. Blah blah blah, more slow un-titillating speeches about how great Apple is. Trying to distort reality but his abilities are really not at the Jedi master level yet.
- Then, of course, Phil comes on stage. Bam, talks about improving iPhone Xs. How great the iPhone Xs Max is (and it is a nice phone). Then talks about how crappy passwords are and how millions don't lock their devices and the need to improve FaceID. Introduces iPhone 11 - new enhanced LCD screen design talks on and on about how it's so great. How others failed and how Apple succeeded. Goes on to introduce iPhone 11 Pro itself and the new processors, updated camera, and the same old shhhhh as the iPhone Xs. How great the new screen is and how the new 11 Pro camera can shoot dazzling video.
- More features are shown on the iPhone 11 Pro camera, comparisons to other cameras, knocking on Samsung faux 40+ MP camera. Then the biggest surprise, new matte finish on select iPhone 11. Crowd goes bezerk.
- Tons of the same old same old same old presentation with the same product but trickled improvements from previous because who will buy an iPhone when they do everything now, they will milk everything slowly so they can call it an iPhone 12 next year.
So there you have it, sums up everything - you have seen the real deal already and unless there is an AMOLED 3D screen, some kind of super processor, or a huge battery pack, it's already all seen and done before.
You people who are doubting how boring this release is, come September, you will just clap away like a clown and smile then wait a week to order the SAME iPhone Xs with an 11 instead and an extra camera.
(In case you couldn't tell, this was a parody and I think Apple (and all of you Apple fans) are great. Just poking some fun at the yearly spectacle we call the iPhone fall preview event).
wooo-woooo-woooooo obnoxious crowd screaming when lights dim and some cheesy U2 song is playing in the background.
- Tim Cook appears. Slow starting speech. Announces how successful iOS is yet again for the millionth time. Praising App Store success, apps being downloaded more than McDonald's being served. Compares to competitors and how iOS still dominates everything (but in reality, it is just not true). Begins to compliment how successful Apple Music is and how it enables listening to music in new ways (ooooh aaaah). Talks about how great apple stores are and opening another one in Vietnam. Blah blah blah, more slow un-titillating speeches about how great Apple is. Trying to distort reality but his abilities are really not at the Jedi master level yet.
- Then, of course, Phil comes on stage. Bam, talks about improving iPhone Xs. How great the iPhone Xs Max is (and it is a nice phone). Then talks about how crappy passwords are and how millions don't lock their devices and the need to improve FaceID. Introduces iPhone 11 - new enhanced LCD screen design talks on and on about how it's so great. How others failed and how Apple succeeded. Goes on to introduce iPhone 11 Pro itself and the new processors, updated camera, and the same old shhhhh as the iPhone Xs. How great the new screen is and how the new 11 Pro camera can shoot dazzling video.
- More features are shown on the iPhone 11 Pro camera, comparisons to other cameras, knocking on Samsung faux 40+ MP camera. Then the biggest surprise, new matte finish on select iPhone 11. Crowd goes bezerk.
- Tons of the same old same old same old presentation with the same product but trickled improvements from previous because who will buy an iPhone when they do everything now, they will milk everything slowly so they can call it an iPhone 12 next year.
So there you have it, sums up everything - you have seen the real deal already and unless there is an AMOLED 3D screen, some kind of super processor, or a huge battery pack, it's already all seen and done before.
You people who are doubting how boring this release is, come September, you will just clap away like a clown and smile then wait a week to order the SAME iPhone Xs with an 11 instead and an extra camera.
(In case you couldn't tell, this was a parody and I think Apple (and all of you Apple fans) are great. Just poking some fun at the yearly spectacle we call the iPhone fall preview event).
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“Yet iOS marketshare fell 2.2% in the United States and over 5% in some parts of Europe.“
Market share is only a reflection of NEW iPhone sales. It doesn’t represent the size of the overall iPhone market / user base, which has been growing EVERY year is approximately one billion unique users. And this is despite the fact that new iPhone sales have stagnant or declined over the last couple of years. This is proof, to me, that there’s a strong grey market demand for used / refurbished iPhones & iPhone users are holding onto their devices for a longer period of time.
If there was hemorrhaging in the iPhone market, not only would sales of new iPhones be shrinking but the iPhone user base would be shrinking as well but that hasn’t happened. If, or when, that does then it’s time to worry.
Not true. Last month, I had my (launch day) Xs Max in my board shorts pocket and after about 15 minutes in the swimming pool, I realized I hadn’t taken it out. My sister said the look on my face when I realized it was still in my pocket was priceless.
I took it out of the case to let it dry out. Of course the 110° desert heat caused it to shut off, but it worked fine once it cooled off.
I'm running a 16GB 6S with 10GB taken by 'System' and apps that offload themselves daily to make space for other random stuff and I'm still not excited about this phone! That MBP however...
I don't care how slick Apple's marketing team is, the new iPhone unveil this fall is going to be a snooze-fest (as another put it here already). I'll save you the time and give you a sneek preview:
"wooo-woooo-woooooo obnoxious crowd screaming when lights dim and some cheesy U2 song is playing in background"
- Tim Cook appears. Slow starting speech. Announces how successful iOS is yet again for the millionth time. Praising App Store success, apps being downloaded more than McDonald's being served. Compares to competitors and how iOS still dominates everything (but in reality, it is just not true). Begins to compliment how successful Apple Music is and how it enables listening to music in new ways (ooooh aaaah). Talks about how great apple stores are and opening another one in vietnam. Blah blah blah, more slow un-titalating speeches about how great apple is. Trying to distort reality but his abilities are really not at the jedi master level yet.
- Then of course Phil comes on stage. Bam, talks about improving iPhone Xs. How great the iPhone XS Max is (and it is a nice phone). Then talks about how crappy passwords are and how millions don't lock their devices and the need to improve FaceID. Introduces iPhone 11 - new enhanced LCD screen design, talks on and on about how it's so great. How others failed and how Apple succeeded. Goes on to introduce iPhone 11 Pro itself and the new processors, updated camera, and the same old shhhhh as the iPhone Xs. How great the new screen is and how the new 11 Pro camera can shoot dazzling video.
- More features shown on iphone 11 Pro camera, comparisons to other cameras, knocking on Samsung faux 40+ MP camera. Then the biggest surprise, new matte finish on select iPhone 11. Crowd goes bezerk.
- Tons of the same old same old same old presentation with the same product but trickled improvements from previous because who will buy an iPhone when they do everything now, they will milk everything slowly so they can call it an iPhone 12 next year.
So there you have it, sums up everything - you have seen the real deal already and unless there is an AMOLED 3D screen, some kind of super processor, or a huge battery pack, it's already all seen and done before.
You people who are doubting how boring this release is, come this tuesday, you will just clap away like a clown and smile then wait a week to order the SAME iPHONE Xs with an 11 instead and an extra camera.
(In case you couldn't tell, this was parody and I think Apple (and all of you Apple fans) are great. Just poking some fun at the yearly spectacle we call the iPhone fall preview event).
Even though I don’t necessarily agree with what you say and look forward to this release, your depiction of Apple events is just hilarious and spot on! Well done, made my day
No you can’t. Everyone knows that move, and when you try to hide it we just assume you’re playing on Facebook. If you were checking email, you would do it in plain view
Sorry. Basically the tech will allow face readings from very low angles and has the capability to read a face upside down and sideways, but if it will be implemented yet is unknown since they’ll probably save it for gen 2 as a “new” feature.
Well that’s just not true. I got my iPhone X on launch day and have used it everyday for almost two years. Two days ago I accidentally got in the pool with my phone in my pocket and didn’t realize it for several minutes. I quickly took it out of my pocket and dried it off and it was totally fine. It may not have amazing water resistance but it absolutely has more than “zero”.
I guess it is the luck of the draw. I was doing the dishes a couple of months ago and my phone was sitting on the counter. Someone pushed a bowl towards the sink and it pushed my phone into a sink full of water. I grabbed it out and dried it off. It could not have been in the water for more than 2 or 3 seconds but now my Face ID camera isn't working. It didn't bang anything on the way in, just kind of plopped into the water. I was going to skip this iteration of phone as it is not a big update but not now!
Still waiting for a "bezel-less" 14" MacBook Air that supports 32 GB RAM (16 GB is OK now, but will it be in 5+ years?). I have a 2011 MacBook Air that is still going strong. Only real issues are that Apple dropped support so I can't install 10.14+, and it only has 4 GB RAM, which fills up pretty fast with a modern OS.
But that 2011 Air has among the longest useful lifetimes of any computer hardware I've ever bought.
But that 2011 Air has among the longest useful lifetimes of any computer hardware I've ever bought.
What is the new technology that makes it so that the FID can read your face from a flat sittin position? - I'm wondering if that could have been added to X/Xr/Xs [Max] phones but Apple just chose not to?
I’ll upgrade from XS Max just for the FaceID improvement. I’ve got the 2018 iPad Pro and the FaceID is phenomenal.
Love this time of year haha!!
Love this time of year haha!!
Works perfectly already.
[doublepost=1566522242][/doublepost]FaceID already works while laying flat on a table. I only need to have my face looking down at it from about a 30º angle (approx how the original marketing image shows) before I see it unlock. Of course any steeper angle would be welcome.
Keep apologizing and soon you'll have to correct nerd neck from 1st gen Face ID.
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With "increased shatter resistance", I hope this also means increase hardness/resistance to scratches! Man, my iPhone X is torn up with micro-scratches if I look under a hard-light when the display is off. It doesn't really affect day-to-day usage when the display is on, but still...yikes! Compared to earlier models it is a lot worse - something with their oleophobic coating I think...