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2019 OLED iPhone Case Renders Mirror Leaked Design
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I7guy
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I don’t care how it looks. The best phone is what you have with you.
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You are entitled to a misinformed opinion, but there is a reason Apple made 11b profit in one quarter, while Samsung revenues are down 60%.
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jamdex
macrumors 6502
If this is what they are finishing on then Jony Ive needs escorting to the exit. For me as an Apple user, design has been one of the main reasons for loyalty. I thought the Vertical array was odd initially but got used to it. Cant see me getting used to this one.
I think we are just not used to seeing 3 lens I know it seems ugly but once we hold it in our hands I think it would become acceptable. I’m still holding on to to my iPhone X until 2020 editions come out with 5G for now I will let apple keep adding new features until they perfect it. I still refuse to switch android phone so these people hanging on just like me keep going. We are pretty much stuck like chuck for now until the 2020 line up
Third-party case renders for Apple's 2019 OLED iPhone lineup appeared on Slashleaks this morning. The images match previous alleged leaks suggesting the successor devices to the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max will feature rear triple-lens cameras in a triangular array and housed within a square bump.
Case manufacturers often create renders of iPhones ahead of their debut in order to be the first to come out with accessories for the newly launched devices. These kinds of leaks are often accurate because there's a lot of money at stake, but that's not to say there can sometimes be costly errors.
These case images come with no accompanying information, so there's no way to know for sure whether or not the design accurately portrays what Apple's 2019 OLED iPhones will look like. However, The Wall Street Journal has confirmed that Apple is planning on introducing a triple-lens camera system in at least one of the new iPhones coming this year. In addition, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has said both the 5.8 and 6.5-inch OLED iPhones will feature triple-lens rear camera setups with a 12-megapixel telephoto lens, a 12-megapixel wide-angle lens, and a 12-megapixel super wide-angle lens.
We don't yet know what Apple will call the new iPhones, but "iPhone XI" or "iPhone 11" are possibilities for the iPhone XS successors.
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And that’s why the next few line ups are worth the wait
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Personally I like the somewhat odd design. Not boring like on the other manufacturers’ phones.
Besides, if Apple had just put them in a straight line across the case (as many on MR have called for), then posters would have called out Apple for just copying the competition.
Either way Apple can’t win, people need something to complain about.
That said, I wonder how a case would be able to be designed to accommodate screw-in secondary lenses. I just bought a case with threads and lenses for my Max and would hate to give that up at some future date. Will certainly be keeping Max for a couple of more years, at minimum ‘till Apple has 5G.
LovingTeddy
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Consider iPhone sales were dropped 19% in North America, yeah, everything is fine with Apple. There is a reason why iPhone sales were dropped and Apple’s revenue also dropped.
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This design is still carbon copy of Huawei’s Mate 20 Pro... Apple just happened to moved the square from center to top corner
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AnthonyHarris
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Why are you so upset about Face ID? They aren't going to bring back Touch ID so enjoy your Chinese brand. 😀
Because that is essentially all it is right now. It is literally a mockup of what the phones cameras might look like. Until I see the real deal, I'm going to reserve judgement.
We all know most of the 'That's FUGLY' crowd are normally first in line after the official announcement. 🙄
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What. Like Huawei’s Matebook X is a carbon copy of the MacBook design? We are all allowed to take a little inspiration, but sometimes it's a case of, "Call the police, they've stolen my entire design concept!"... You should know that Huawei is king of carbon copying!
MultiMan
macrumors regular
It looks that way because Apple is playing catch up. Apple used to be the leaders and constantly innovating, before they became cautious and complacent, together with a fixation on profit first, technology second.
I was on the Apple side for decades, but the last couple of years have been rough.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
Apple still made 11b profit in a quarter, while ine if apple’s competitors revenue dropped 60%. So yeah, Apple is fine. We each have our own interpretation on the numbers.
In my opinion there are times when Apple swings towards a dangerous stubbornness, and this is one of those times. Even if Apple has a good track record of solid products and an undeniable commercial success, in ten years it can happen that the competition does something better.
Another thing that bugs me is the fact that on some product lines (mainly computers) they're seemingly unwilling to compromise form over function, but for others (iPhone, iPad) they are, in my opinion, clearly choosing function over form. Neither is wrong (albeit it becomes a problem when brought to the extremes, like every thing on Earth), but this idiosyncrasy is really starting to show.
I'll provide an example to explain why I think so.
I always hated the micro-USB port with all my heart. I don't know how they thought it was a good idea to design a port like this and spread it on, well, like every phone except the iPhone. In the meantime Apple designed the Lightning connector, which works remarkably better. Aside from the more premium feeling, Lightning has been, for me, a real improvement over that micro-USB crap. But then USB-C came along and competitors started fitting it on their products. Even Apple went full USB-C with their MacBooks, implementing Thunderbolt 3 over it, which is a very nice feature for media professionals. But the iPhone stays Lightning. I don't know about the technical or market reasons, but guys, really... what does it cost to switch the iPhone over to USB-C now in a world where everything is becoming USB-C or already is? It's a fact that an ecosystem of Lightning accessories exists, but for that matter an ecosystem of (far costlier stuff) existed with USB-A and SD cards and they didn't hesitate to screw it. [Edit: "screwing" an ecosystem is a relative concept, for me having to get adapters for nearly everything is tedious but I embraced the new USB-C way on the MacBook] And the time will inevitably come when Lightning will be dropped and all those accessories will have to be adapted... better sooner than later, no?
Same idea applies with design, in my opinion. It seems like Apple is thinking: "we've always had top right corner lenses, so we're going to have top right corner lenses no matter what, even if centering them would look less weird we won't do this because we don't want our device to look like a Samsung". I really can picture Tim Cook and Jony Ive quietly discussing this, and when I remember that in the end it's just a phone, I have a good laugh about the "corporate stubbornness" of a company which to me, sometimes seems a bit of an oxymoron.
On one hand Apple is super conservative about design and features, but I must admit that feature-wise when they actually do it they do it really well, in the more streamlined and convenient way possible. On the design it's less so, in my opinion... when they announced the 6 I distinctly remember being underwhelmed, like: "we waited all this time for... this?". Same thing for the X and Xs... not ugly phones by any means, but from the company that makes the iMac and the MacBooks, for which they clearly showed they weren't up to any compromise of form over function, I honestly expected something with less compromises and with a more precise design (it really bugs me the fact that the top corners' informations on the screen don't align with the bottom of the notch, but I admit that I'm OCD as hell).
On the other hand, they seem all-out on innovation but their push for innovation, their "courage" sometimes is just too much. I understand getting rid of USB-A ports on the MacBook, but the SD card reader? Was it really necessary to dump it? The same for the headphone jack: Samsung kept it, and they even had a better IP rating at the time of the iPhone 7 vs Galaxy S8. We can tell ourselves how innovation is important and courage is the future and Bluetooth is better than cables, but hey, for most of us, I think, a phone is a tool. A luxurious tool, which costs a lot and has to look the part, and for some maybe even a fashion accessory. But for me it's not a mean to make philosophical statements about progress, and if I can choose between Bluetooth and the headphone jack, choose between USB-C and USB-A, choose between an ultra-thin port-less laptop and a bulkier, professional one, I'll be an happier customer in the end.
And dear Apple, I really like you guys. Your stance on privacy is unrivaled, your computers are wonderful for my work, you have the best software, we know it and you know it. But it's not a bad thing to admit it when you're wrong. And it's not a bad thing to give users choice. You'll maybe have a little less profits, but happier customers in the end...
That said, not that any of you gives a crap about it, but I have a full Apple ecosystem which I entirely overhauled last year by catching some deals, and all my stuff is happily chugging along and will probably continue to do so for many years to come. An ugly lens configuration is not the end of the world, and aside from the fact that I don't need to upgrade in 2019 nor in 2020 for that matter (except unrepairable damages to my current iPhone), I can always wait it out until a full redesign is presented. Antenna lines on the 6, which I had, were pretty horrible too, and after some time they eventually got rid of them. I think that the same will happen with these ugly cameras we're seeing today and the weird notch, unhinged from the fact that competition copies it or not. In two or three years maybe we'll be raving about cutting-edge iPhone design again. But this doesn't mean we don't notice how the compromise philosophy and the design choices of Apple are probably not in their best shape at the moment.
Another thing that bugs me is the fact that on some product lines (mainly computers) they're seemingly unwilling to compromise form over function, but for others (iPhone, iPad) they are, in my opinion, clearly choosing function over form. Neither is wrong (albeit it becomes a problem when brought to the extremes, like every thing on Earth), but this idiosyncrasy is really starting to show.
I'll provide an example to explain why I think so.
I always hated the micro-USB port with all my heart. I don't know how they thought it was a good idea to design a port like this and spread it on, well, like every phone except the iPhone. In the meantime Apple designed the Lightning connector, which works remarkably better. Aside from the more premium feeling, Lightning has been, for me, a real improvement over that micro-USB crap. But then USB-C came along and competitors started fitting it on their products. Even Apple went full USB-C with their MacBooks, implementing Thunderbolt 3 over it, which is a very nice feature for media professionals. But the iPhone stays Lightning. I don't know about the technical or market reasons, but guys, really... what does it cost to switch the iPhone over to USB-C now in a world where everything is becoming USB-C or already is? It's a fact that an ecosystem of Lightning accessories exists, but for that matter an ecosystem of (far costlier stuff) existed with USB-A and SD cards and they didn't hesitate to screw it. [Edit: "screwing" an ecosystem is a relative concept, for me having to get adapters for nearly everything is tedious but I embraced the new USB-C way on the MacBook] And the time will inevitably come when Lightning will be dropped and all those accessories will have to be adapted... better sooner than later, no?
Same idea applies with design, in my opinion. It seems like Apple is thinking: "we've always had top right corner lenses, so we're going to have top right corner lenses no matter what, even if centering them would look less weird we won't do this because we don't want our device to look like a Samsung". I really can picture Tim Cook and Jony Ive quietly discussing this, and when I remember that in the end it's just a phone, I have a good laugh about the "corporate stubbornness" of a company which to me, sometimes seems a bit of an oxymoron.
On one hand Apple is super conservative about design and features, but I must admit that feature-wise when they actually do it they do it really well, in the more streamlined and convenient way possible. On the design it's less so, in my opinion... when they announced the 6 I distinctly remember being underwhelmed, like: "we waited all this time for... this?". Same thing for the X and Xs... not ugly phones by any means, but from the company that makes the iMac and the MacBooks, for which they clearly showed they weren't up to any compromise of form over function, I honestly expected something with less compromises and with a more precise design (it really bugs me the fact that the top corners' informations on the screen don't align with the bottom of the notch, but I admit that I'm OCD as hell).
On the other hand, they seem all-out on innovation but their push for innovation, their "courage" sometimes is just too much. I understand getting rid of USB-A ports on the MacBook, but the SD card reader? Was it really necessary to dump it? The same for the headphone jack: Samsung kept it, and they even had a better IP rating at the time of the iPhone 7 vs Galaxy S8. We can tell ourselves how innovation is important and courage is the future and Bluetooth is better than cables, but hey, for most of us, I think, a phone is a tool. A luxurious tool, which costs a lot and has to look the part, and for some maybe even a fashion accessory. But for me it's not a mean to make philosophical statements about progress, and if I can choose between Bluetooth and the headphone jack, choose between USB-C and USB-A, choose between an ultra-thin port-less laptop and a bulkier, professional one, I'll be an happier customer in the end.
And dear Apple, I really like you guys. Your stance on privacy is unrivaled, your computers are wonderful for my work, you have the best software, we know it and you know it. But it's not a bad thing to admit it when you're wrong. And it's not a bad thing to give users choice. You'll maybe have a little less profits, but happier customers in the end...
That said, not that any of you gives a crap about it, but I have a full Apple ecosystem which I entirely overhauled last year by catching some deals, and all my stuff is happily chugging along and will probably continue to do so for many years to come. An ugly lens configuration is not the end of the world, and aside from the fact that I don't need to upgrade in 2019 nor in 2020 for that matter (except unrepairable damages to my current iPhone), I can always wait it out until a full redesign is presented. Antenna lines on the 6, which I had, were pretty horrible too, and after some time they eventually got rid of them. I think that the same will happen with these ugly cameras we're seeing today and the weird notch, unhinged from the fact that competition copies it or not. In two or three years maybe we'll be raving about cutting-edge iPhone design again. But this doesn't mean we don't notice how the compromise philosophy and the design choices of Apple are probably not in their best shape at the moment.
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LovingTeddy
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None the less, Apple’s revenue still dropped. You can’t deny that. Although it is not has big as other, it is still a drop. You are talking about 61.6B vs 58B. And iPhone’s sale is still dropping and I really don’t see how this will be reversed. It is not all that sunny like you think.
I still remember hard when BlackBerry was at its heyday, where everybody rocked with BlackBerry and its BBM. They are so stubborn, they said they would never do toys like iPhone. Of course, overtime BlackBerry tanked and it is completely out of phone market. Corporations come and go, Apple is no exception. And if Apple start failing, it will be fast.
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I liked the TouchID and I hate FaceID. Over 2 weeks I had with iPhone XR, FaceID fails every time I lays down or not at right angle. I ended up downgrade to iPhone 8 Plus and still carrying with my P20 Pro along with iPhone 8 Plus.
And I am going to get the Mate 20 Pro when I travel back to China at end of the year. Under screen fingerprint sensor is sweet.
How much better does the camera need to be? Each improvement is only marginal, noticeable by the trained eye but marginal. To me the camera race is over and the winner was the consumer. All cameras take great pictures.
There are only two ways for phones to go now:
Folding - Personally I want the SE/5 size that folds out. I'm sure there are people with Maxs that would love a that to fold out, too. I just want the original size back.
Cheaper - Can we stop forcing customers to $1000 and higher for a phone that is simply current gen? iPhone Gen 1 was $700 unsubsidized and that was considered expensive. The first foldables should not be $1500 and higher. Just no. I hope the Pixel 3A is REALLY successful and tells Samsung and Apple they are missing the point.
There are only two ways for phones to go now:
Folding - Personally I want the SE/5 size that folds out. I'm sure there are people with Maxs that would love a that to fold out, too. I just want the original size back.
Cheaper - Can we stop forcing customers to $1000 and higher for a phone that is simply current gen? iPhone Gen 1 was $700 unsubsidized and that was considered expensive. The first foldables should not be $1500 and higher. Just no. I hope the Pixel 3A is REALLY successful and tells Samsung and Apple they are missing the point.
LovingTeddy
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No. Lots of phone maker put third lens as wide angle lens, where you can take photo for larger areas. Huawei just made its P30 Pro ability to take 50X zoom and it is impressive. So the camera race is not over at all.
AnthonyHarris
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While I'm feeling pretty certain that this is how the cameras will be laid out due to the leaked steel blocks and 'possible' internal chassis part, this is still only an artists impression of how the new iPhone might be presented to us.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
Apple stock price is up almost $50 since January. You can’t deny that. What metric do you want to use to support your “opinion” it’s not sunny? I’m going to say the stock price maybe says “who cares”.
Of course, it now looks like Samsung might be the new blackberry. As you said, once the fail it will be fast.
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Catch up. Face ID, smart hdr, dynamic hdr in video, a12 neural engine, Apple Watch, AirPods, etc. No, they are not playing catch up.
LovingTeddy
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Yeah... Microsoft stock went even more. I care less about stock... Both Apple and Microsoft are too over valued in my opinion. It will take no time for Apple stock drop back down.
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FaceID is crap. With my 2 weeks of iPhone XR experiences, it was crap. It will never unlock if angle is not right nor it will unlock the phone if I am lay down flat.
Google is way better in terms of photo algorithm. Where is night mode on iPhone? None. I give you Smart HDR and Dynamic HDR in video.
Natural Engine is nothing special. Huawei has them as well, so is Snapdragon processors.
Apple Watch is still just other smart watch. It aren’t taking over the world and it will never be.
Apple has been playing catching up for so many things. Dark mode, night mode, wide angle lens on iPhone, three camera setup etc.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
If neural engine isn’t nothing special, neither is night mode. Imagine holding your phone still for multiple seconds to take a picture.
See we can play a tit for tat all day long. All we have to do is argue opinions and nothing gets accomplished except how we believe how right our opinion is.
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MultiMan
macrumors regular
I don't know why you're mentioning neural engine as Huawei was the first company to present such technology with its NPU, which first found implementation in Kirin 970 (single module) and now 980 (dual module). Not by much, I think it was a month before Apple, maybe just weeks, still they were first. So, again, Apple wasn't leading, like they used to.
No need to mention Apple Watch. In that field they are clear leaders. Very few here dispute that and certainly not me. However, it will never get as big as the phone business. Most where I live don''t use watches at all anymore and I still prefer old, mechanical ones, as do many others. I see an uphill battle selling $400 watches to people abandoning them in the first place due to mobile phones. Still, it will be a healthy market for Apple.
I7guy
macrumors Westmere
Getting it out the door first and I doubt it does the same thing is not the same as conceiving the idea first. Apple has the best socs in the business. That’s why it was mentioned.
As far as the Apple Watch it’s a counter to those who mistakenly say there is no innovation at Apple.
AnthonyHarris
Cancelled
You say Huawei released something similar to Apples new chip set just weeks before Apple? I'm sorry, but both companies would have been developing these things for years. Your logic is flawed.
Benchmarks show the A12 is ahead of the Huawei Mate 20 pro chip, so keep telling yourself Apple are behind if it makes you feel better... FYI. It isn't true.
MultiMan
macrumors regular
I just pointed out that another company presented similar technology slightly ahead of Apple.
Why would I feel better about it? If anything, sadness comes to mind.