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2020 Formula 1 Season Thread
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Reality show on ESPN this morning before qualifying.
Kids, actually 18 yrs - 20 some odds yrs old it seemed, playing a racing video game.
JPM = Juan Pablo Montoya was one of the coaches/hosts...? I think that was his role.
Tripe.
I could only think of JP Morgan. lol
People really think Mercedes are about to leave F1? Toto has already said they're committed to it. They just need to do the impossible and get Max in a Mercedes.....
I highly doubt Mercedes are leaving anytime soon, not as long as they are winning.
They won’t do that until Lewis retires. Then if it’s still the car to be in, it will happen quicker than a RBR pit stop!
I get that.
It'd be nice if they did though.
But I'm sure another team would just run away with everything.
Grosjean into the barrier on Lap One with a huge fireball.
EDIT - He is out of the car and safe.
EDIT 2 - The fuel cell ruptured. Sliced the car in half. I firmly believe the HALO saved his life.
EDIT 3 - The barrier is destroyed so this will be a long Red Flag.
EDIT - He is out of the car and safe.
EDIT 2 - The fuel cell ruptured. Sliced the car in half. I firmly believe the HALO saved his life.
EDIT 3 - The barrier is destroyed so this will be a long Red Flag.
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A bit shocked to see that happen to an F1 car, it was literally ripped in half. And people say it's not dangerous these days. Glad to see Grosjean is OK, that was nasty.
The more I see it the worse it looks, that was horrific and nothing short of a miracle he walked away.
So now looks like the fuel collector was ruptured - so about two liters. The fuel cell looks like it did hold (since that would have been a lot more).
And now Stroll flips on the restart after pinching Kvyat. Safety Car out.
Going to be a long night.
Going to be a long night.
And Perez's engine lets go with 2 to go to end his podium chances, elevating Albon to 3rd with a SC finish.
What a **** show of a race , this 2020 ...... WHERE ARE YOU MY FERRAI?|!?!??!? seeing Vettel racing Russel and being unable to overtake , or Lecrec just getting steamrolled by everyone around him..... Bottas is breaking my heart as well , i thought he was better then he is , bad luck ? sure he had is share this year , but he cant race for the life of him , he is quick over 1 lap , and can do OK in open air , but he is not a racer in heart , you put Sainz , Lecrec , Ver in that mercedes , you will see them carving up the field in a circuit like this one.
Grosjeans fuel cell didn't rupture, but the hybrid batteries were part of the fire. They're located under/behind the drivers seat and detached with front of the car. That's why the fire burned so violently and didn't react to the extinguishers in the way you'd expect.
It wasn't just the HALO that saved Grosjean's life. I can only imagine the HANS device prevented him from suffering a fatal neck injury, like the one that killed NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt at the 2001 Daytona 500. Going head-on into barrier at the sort of speed Grosjean did places a tremendous force on the driver's neck, potential causing a fatal basilar skull fracture.
That was the most horrific-looking crash I've seen in F1 in many, many years. Hopefully Grosjean's injuries are no more severe than has already been reported, and that he can make a speedy recovery.
Crashes apart, it was an interesting race. I think all the teams knew from the outset it was going to be (at least) a two-stopper. I was a little concerned when Hamilton came out on mediums after his first pit stop, knowing that he'd have to stop at least once more, while Verstappen (theoretically) could have kept going to the end. Turns out that wasn't really on the cards.
It would have been interesting if the Safety Car for Perez' engine meltdown had happened a lap or two earlier. Then we'd have seen Verstappen, on fresh tires, duelling Hamilton for the race win.
That was the most horrific-looking crash I've seen in F1 in many, many years. Hopefully Grosjean's injuries are no more severe than has already been reported, and that he can make a speedy recovery.
Crashes apart, it was an interesting race. I think all the teams knew from the outset it was going to be (at least) a two-stopper. I was a little concerned when Hamilton came out on mediums after his first pit stop, knowing that he'd have to stop at least once more, while Verstappen (theoretically) could have kept going to the end. Turns out that wasn't really on the cards.
It would have been interesting if the Safety Car for Perez' engine meltdown had happened a lap or two earlier. Then we'd have seen Verstappen, on fresh tires, duelling Hamilton for the race win.
they should rename f1 to mercedes grand prix, apart from that crash from grosjean it was another snooze fest. glad i cancelled f1 tv last year.
Agreed. My heart went to my feet when I saw that impact and fire.
2nd Degree Burns to hands and feet with some broken ribs is a testament to F1 Safety. Soooo glad he was able to get out on his own. Unbelievable he maintained consciousness.
Update is no broken bones - just bad bruising from the HANS device and belts from the stop. burns to both hands.
So I think there's probably a few of us who had a sort of mild version of shock today having witnessed that accident. I've seen a lot of people saying F1 got lucky, and a lot of people saying it wasn't luck, it was designed to do all of this. I feel the reality is somewhere in between.
The car largely did what it was meant to do. The nose took the brunt of the impact and protected Romain well. The halo pushed the obstruction clear of his head, and this without a doubt saved his life. Without the halo, he would be dead. The car split in half, but this is fine - this is a good thing, as it takes the heavy weight of the engine away from the chassis, reducing the energy involved in the area that the driver is located. The battery apparently did NOT catch fire, despite earlier reports. The fuel tank didn't rupture either, despite being completely full. On the face of it, it all worked remarkably well in extreme circumstances.
The bit which is luck is the final position of the safety cell lodged in the barrier. Romain attempted to extract himself "straight" out of the top of the halo (as you're meant to do). However he found the route blocked by armco. He then adjusted himself to his left and through the gap between the halo and the armco. This worked...however, had the car been 20cm less deep in the barrier than he would have been completely trapped. And that bit, is luck.
Some will think I'm arguing against the use of the halo, and I am absolutely not. It saved his life today. However, the way risk management and investigations work, they will absolutely find that data worrying. In terms of layered defence risk management model, it is easy to see how the final layer could have been penetrated here.
Romain survived due to a lot of work by a lot of smart engineers designing incredible systems. But there was a tiny sprinkling of luck on the top of that too.
The car largely did what it was meant to do. The nose took the brunt of the impact and protected Romain well. The halo pushed the obstruction clear of his head, and this without a doubt saved his life. Without the halo, he would be dead. The car split in half, but this is fine - this is a good thing, as it takes the heavy weight of the engine away from the chassis, reducing the energy involved in the area that the driver is located. The battery apparently did NOT catch fire, despite earlier reports. The fuel tank didn't rupture either, despite being completely full. On the face of it, it all worked remarkably well in extreme circumstances.
The bit which is luck is the final position of the safety cell lodged in the barrier. Romain attempted to extract himself "straight" out of the top of the halo (as you're meant to do). However he found the route blocked by armco. He then adjusted himself to his left and through the gap between the halo and the armco. This worked...however, had the car been 20cm less deep in the barrier than he would have been completely trapped. And that bit, is luck.
Some will think I'm arguing against the use of the halo, and I am absolutely not. It saved his life today. However, the way risk management and investigations work, they will absolutely find that data worrying. In terms of layered defence risk management model, it is easy to see how the final layer could have been penetrated here.
Romain survived due to a lot of work by a lot of smart engineers designing incredible systems. But there was a tiny sprinkling of luck on the top of that too.
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Grosjean seemed upbeat in his video from hospital, hope his hands are ok.