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2020 iPhones Could Feature Fast 120Hz 'ProMotion' Displays

Is anything happening this year? All I'm reading is 2020...same with Watch etc.
O yeah i forgot the $1000 Display Stand. Can't wait for Gen2 :-|
 
Samsung mobile OLED has been 90Hz for a while now that's why along with other benefits it's used in high end VR headsets. Don't see the benefit of 120Hz over 90Hz on mobile phones except for marketing hype since it's doubtful phones even sustain anywhere near 60Hz frame rate for things like 3D gaming and Safari still doesn't utilize more than 60Hz as demonstrated by browsing https://www.displayhz.com on all iPad Pros with ProMotion.
 
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bla bla ... as long as people pay moon prices for years old hardware ... apple has no ambitions to do better. the iphone is a piece of over-aged crap - and a 120hz display won't change anything
ios13 is not even an update of anything - its so ridiculous.
ipad os is also a joke - if you compare it, to what you can do with a real computer.

this whole company is in an insane bubble of ya - sayers
 
mi7chy said:
Samsung mobile OLED has been 90Hz for a while now that's why along with other benefits it's used in high end VR headsets. Don't see the benefit of 120Hz over 90Hz on mobile phones except for marketing hype since it's doubtful phones even sustain anywhere near 60Hz frame rate for things like 3D gaming and Safari still doesn't utilize more than 60Hz as demonstrated by browsing https://www.displayhz.com on all iPad Pros.
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iPad pros have a variable refresh rate.

It increases based on the applications needs.
Don’t think browsing displayhz.com would trigger it.
 
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EvilEvil said:
It's doesn't matter. Apple isn't the first.
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A couple questions...

1. Who planted a flag saying they were the first?
2. Why does it even matter who was... are we under some impression that only Apple hires engineers or something?
 
Better have at least a 4000mah battery in the Max too. The OLED iPhone's have terrible battery life as it is, so add in 5G alongside this new nifty display...I don't see myself getting more than 5 or 6 hours SOT
 
I see other areas to be improved first as display wise I feel the iPhone to be a very soli device, so hopefully it won't prevent other features to come first.
 
myapple2019 said:
Count me as one of the people who will not buy a new iPhone just because of better camera. For some, better camera will be the main reason to upgrade. Fortunately, I am not in that better camera enthusiast group.
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Better camera was a compelling upgrade years ago. Now phones are all very good in the last 2-3 years. Needs some groundbreaking new tech to make me go oooooo. A wider camera does sound nice but it can wait another year with how good phones cameras are now.
 
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Khedron said:
a.k.a. "Apple is hoping Samsung or LG does their innovation for them"
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Look, another person that doesn’t understand the manufacturing relationship between Apple and its display partners. Not sure why there is still confusion about this.

To make it real simple:

Apple doesn’t have the physical infrastructure/manufacturing capability to produce its screens at the rate is needed to put out the astonishing number of devices it sells each year. So they design their display, in house, and then they contract out Samsung and/or LG to use their machines to produce said display en masse. Apple is not using Samsung/LG spec screens. They simply put the screens together for Apple. That would be like me producing my pie recipe, but taking my recipe to a baker who has industrial kitchen equipment so they can make 30 pies in a couple hours, where 30 pies would take me a couple days at home because I simply don’t have the capacity to make 30 pies. It’s still my recipe, it’s still my product, I simply paid someone else to bake more of them in a shorter period of time.

Think about this. Samsung phones have been plagued with screen burn in for quite some time (even the galaxy 8’s and a good portion of 9’s have had it. I haven’t seen the 10’s with any yet, but they’ve only been out a few months). This is Samsung’s design that has these flaws. I still have yet to see an iPhone X cross my path, that’s almost 2 years old, with any screen burn in at all. Apple took care in designing their own OLED panel, and this was a big part of their development And important for them to avoid.

Samsung does not design Apple displays, they simply input schematics and materials into their machines to Apple’s specs and spits them out, and Apple pays them a premium to do so. It’s lucrative for Samsung (or LG) to do.
 
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x-evil-x said:
Number of people buying this years iPhone...12 Million in the first hr of pre-orders....
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There, fixed your quote for you.


H3LL5P4WN said:
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I'm so happy I went with the 3-year AT&T Next on my XS.
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Since when do they have a 3 year?
 
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Oridus said:
Look, another person that doesn’t understand the manufacturing relationship between Apple and its display partners. Not sure why there is still confusion about this.

To make it real simple:

Apple doesn’t have the physical infrastructure/manufacturing capability to produce its screens at the rate is needed to put out the astonishing number of devices it sells each year. So they design their display, in house, and then they contract out Samsung and/or LG to use their machines to produce said display en masse. Apple is not using Samsung/LG spec screens. They simply put the screens together for Apple. That would be like me producing my pie recipe, but taking my recipe to a baker who has industrial kitchen equipment so they can make 30 pies in a couple hours, where 30 pies would take me a couple days at home because I simply don’t have the capacity to make 30 pies. It’s still my recipe, it’s still my product, I simply paid someone else to bake more of them in a shorter period of my time.

Think about this. Samsung phones have been plagued with screen burn in for quite some time (even the galaxy 8’s and a good portion of 9’s have had it. I haven’t seen the 10’s with any yet, but they’ve only been out a few months). This is Samsung’s design that has these flaws. I still have yet to see an iPhone X cross my path, that’s almost 2 years old, with any screen burn in at all. Apple took care in designing their own OLED panel, and this was a big part of their development And important for them to avoid.

Samsung does not design Apple displays, they simply input schematics and materials into their machines to Apple’s specs and spits them out, and Apple pays them a premium to do so. It’s lucrative for Samsung (or LG) to do.
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Everyone knows they are apple displays fabricated by Samsung.

Just like the a series chips are apple processors and not TSMC. Or how it’s the apple iPhone and not the Foxconn iphone, etc etc.

Samsung never invented oled, or even the subpixel arrangent, they license the technology like everyone else.

x-evil-x said:
This year won't sell out like previous. mark my words
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Did you say the same thing about the iPhone X or xs max?

The xr never sold out either and it’s the best selling phone on the market.
 
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Oridus said:
Look, another person that doesn’t understand the manufacturing relationship between Apple and its display partners. Not sure why there is still confusion about this.

To make it real simple:

Apple doesn’t have the physical infrastructure/manufacturing capability to produce its screens at the rate is needed to put out the astonishing number of devices it sells each year. So they design their display, in house, and then they contract out Samsung and/or LG to use their machines to produce said display en masse. Apple is not using Samsung/LG spec screens. They simply put the screens together for Apple. That would be like me producing my pie recipe, but taking my recipe to a baker who has industrial kitchen equipment so they can make 30 pies in a couple hours, where 30 pies would take me a couple days at home because I simply don’t have the capacity to make 30 pies. It’s still my recipe, it’s still my product, I simply paid someone else to bake more of them in a shorter period of time.

Think about this. Samsung phones have been plagued with screen burn in for quite some time (even the galaxy 8’s and a good portion of 9’s have had it. I haven’t seen the 10’s with any yet, but they’ve only been out a few months). This is Samsung’s design that has these flaws. I still have yet to see an iPhone X cross my path, that’s almost 2 years old, with any screen burn in at all. Apple took care in designing their own OLED panel, and this was a big part of their development And important for them to avoid.

Samsung does not design Apple displays, they simply input schematics and materials into their machines to Apple’s specs and spits them out, and Apple pays them a premium to do so. It’s lucrative for Samsung (or LG) to do.
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I don't think that this is true. Apple did not have the engineering resources to develop the base display technologies without manufacturing them. They might demand some modifications from the base Samsung or LG displays but they are not able to develop a complete new display technology on their own....
 
I7guy said:
Actually Samsung is hoping it can get some inspiration from apple’s innovation, is more like it.
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Could you mean how Samsung copied the rear of the iPhone X and Xs with the new note 10, they didn’t just copy the pill shaped design but actually moved the camera to match the iPhone.

They also removed the headphone jack.
 
Oridus said:
Look, another person that doesn’t understand the manufacturing relationship between Apple and its display partners. Not sure why there is still confusion about this.

To make it real simple:

Apple doesn’t have the physical infrastructure/manufacturing capability to produce its screens at the rate is needed to put out the astonishing number of devices it sells each year. So they design their display, in house, and then they contract out Samsung and/or LG to use their machines to produce said display en masse. Apple is not using Samsung/LG spec screens. They simply put the screens together for Apple. That would be like me producing my pie recipe, but taking my recipe to a baker who has industrial kitchen equipment so they can make 30 pies in a couple hours, where 30 pies would take me a couple days at home because I simply don’t have the capacity to make 30 pies. It’s still my recipe, it’s still my product, I simply paid someone else to bake more of them in a shorter period of time.

Think about this. Samsung phones have been plagued with screen burn in for quite some time (even the galaxy 8’s and a good portion of 9’s have had it. I haven’t seen the 10’s with any yet, but they’ve only been out a few months). This is Samsung’s design that has these flaws. I still have yet to see an iPhone X cross my path, that’s almost 2 years old, with any screen burn in at all. Apple took care in designing their own OLED panel, and this was a big part of their development And important for them to avoid.

Samsung does not design Apple displays, they simply input schematics and materials into their machines to Apple’s specs and spits them out, and Apple pays them a premium to do so. It’s lucrative for Samsung (or LG) to do.
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Easy on the BS. It's the same display with different color profile and same burn in.

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AlexJoda said:
I don't think that this is true. Apple did not have the engineering resources to develop the base display technologies without manufacturing them. They might demand some modifications from the base Samsung or LG displays but they are not able to develop a complete new display technology on their own....
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Actually it is true.

Yeah because apple didn’t invent oled.

Apple licensed it from the same company that license oled technology to Samsung, lg, and everyone else.
 
Oridus said:
Apple doesn’t have the physical infrastructure/manufacturing capability to produce its screens at the rate is needed to put out the astonishing number of devices it sells each year. So they design their display, in house, and then they contract out Samsung and/or LG to use their machines to produce said display en masse. Apple is not using Samsung/LG spec screens. They simply put the screens together for Apple.
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Apple does design the screen, but they license technology from Samsung/LG/whomever in the first place in order to do so.

To the best of my knowledge, they don't have their wholly own design, just adaptations.
 
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