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Will echo the disappointment in 3D touch going away. So useful for those that take the time to learn about the capability and those apps that offer support for it.
 
Hi GrumpyMom. I generally find your concerns over-the-top (no offense, but I remember our discussion about AirPods and supposed risks of bluetooth in wearables) however on 5G I do see why people get concerned about it in the long haul. I need to read more about it, but I am not entirely convinced about the way it works in regards to health... So, I'll probably stick with 4G for a while... Especially in the city where I live, which probably won't have 5G for the next 5 years anyways.
No offense taken! I actually do use Bluetooth earbuds. I have a new pair of Samsung ones I like a lot.

Something about Airpods makes my tinnitus worse. Much much worse. And I get discomfort in my ear and along my jaw. I haven’t found out what it is that does that. I will probably never know.

From what I read about 5G, it is supposedly dangerous if they try to extend the range too much on one emitter. It would have to operate at a level that has not been deemed safe in testing. But they can operate at a level that is not found to be dangerous if enough emitters are set up for a given coverage area. I read that in an article on Android Central. I have no idea how true that all is. I’m out in the boonies, so I’m not likely to see 5G for a long time. There are spots in my neighborhood we don’t even have 4G.
 
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Something is already causing colon cancer to become a concern among people under 30. The stats on that are very concerning. Even with a genetic predisposition, I wasn’t supposed to have to worry about that form of cancer until my late 50’s. But pre cancerous version of the tumor that my father fought in his 70’s and my grandfather fought at 80 struck me in my 40’s. It was fortunately caught in time. But my time should not have come as soon as it did. I exercise and eat well enough but it is a typical modern diet.

So whatever we need to be afraid of is already out there. Probably GMO food, but nobody really knows. I’ve read some of the health concerns of 5G. I am concerned but I’m still already concerned about other technology already in use in smartphones. I’m concerned about so many environmental toxins my govt allowed to be used with no restriction. The genie was already let out of the bottle. Not that that is any comfort. It’s not.

At any rate there’s been people very vocal and fighting 5G implementation. Some of them fighting it not over health concerns but because it’s infringing on local government oversight. And still it’s steamrolling its way toward implementation. If you truly want to stop 5G I’m not sure how you’d go about it when so much money is behind rolling it out.

I’m fine with 4G phones. I’m looking forward to the new XR.
It's more likely due to poor diets, lack of exercise.
 
It's not an iPhone 8SE, it's an iPhone SE2 with the internals of the iPhone 8, just like the iPhone SE had the internals of the iPhone 6S. (CPU, memory, etc).

None of the credible leaks suggest it will keep the SE form factor.
 
I think front of phones will look different as Apple and others are working on hiding some elements currently in notch under display. So hopefully notch will become smaller or will disappear in time at all. And it is my long time hope for small bezeless phone with screen TouchID.
 
It’s time for Apple to move on to the next big thing... phones have advanced so much and have become so expensive that they don’t need yearly upgrades anymore. Focus on solid software, the smart home, AI, and maybe even autonomous vehicles... maybe do something with that pile of cash! Put in another offer on Tesla or some other game-changing-make-the-world-a-better-place technology.
 
I don't have time to go through all the comments here, so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I don't believe Apple will be returning to Touch ID anytime soon, because they just invented Face ID which is more secure. I'm more leaning toward a punchhole for Face ID if they can make the technology smaller for 2020 and are aiming for a whole display body.

The 2019 lineup seems underwhelming and not worth upgrading from my iPhone X. 2020 is where it's at. Also, gib SE2 pl0x with Face ID and you can have my money, not everyone wants to carry a phablet everywhere. Absolutely loving iPhone 8, but it would be good if they removed the bezels.
 
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The point of the SE is that it’s cheap but also small. The X isn’t small.
Exactly. Most folks who talk about the appeal of the SE seem to focus on only 1 of its qualities. But it has been popular for all the reasons. For some, it is only 1 reasons (and that 1 reason differs). For others, 2 or more.

Smaller Phone.
Less expensive.
Tried and True design.
headphone jack.

I won't go back to an iPhone (the SE was my last) unless Apple offers a follow-up to the SE that embodies all that. It probably won't happen and Apple isn't losing sleep over a single person who has left the fold.
 
I don't have time to go through all the comments here, so apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I don't believe Apple will be returning to Touch ID anytime soon, because they just invented Face ID which is more secure. I'm more leaning toward a punchhole for Face ID if they can make the technology smaller for 2020 and are aiming for a whole display body.

The 2019 lineup seems underwhelming and not worth upgrading from my iPhone X. 2020 is where it's at.

It's a cost issue. Given the mature smartphone market, Apple will need to target prices under $750. You can't have Face ID on a $499 phone for markets like Africa and India.
 
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Would be glad to see touch ID return to X design phones, would potentially be even more interested in an 8 design SE if there is a plus variant (which unfortunately it doesn't sound like there will be).
 
Clear to who? And analysts said the 2018 iPhones were going to lose 3D Touch. They were wrong. Now they’re going to keep their prediction but change the year?

You’re wrong.

There is only one credible Apple analyst. Ming.

In 2017/early 2018 he was 100% sure 3D Touch would come to 2018 iPhones excluding the XR. And the same XR tech would be the base to phase out 3D Touch in all 2019 iPhones.

This news dates back to around the iPhone X release.
 
It's more likely due to poor diets, lack of exercise.
The individual cases I’ve read of people under 30 with colon cancer features a disproportionate number of women and they are slender and active and supposedly health conscious, so it has to be something else, I guess. I do hope someone is doing the research on it.

I am not so worried for myself. But as a parent I have concerns for the next generation that we haven’t adequately tested too many consumer products before letting them go up for use. I think this is especially true with technology used for phones. I was surprised, for example, to learn that opthamologists say they don’t have enough data to feel confident that iris scanners and Face ID emitters are completely harmless to the eyes. As with so much about our smart phone tech, so much is deemed “inconclusive.” I’m most of the way through my life expectancy so I’m not sweating any of it for myself. I use these things all the time. I want to make better choices and votes for the next generation but there’s not enough conclusive data. Expert voices don’t have much to say. There are some strong opinions being expressed but their credibility is uncertain, too.
 
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I would love to have SE sized iPhone with edge-to-edge screen, X internals and no notch / under the screen touchid. I don't need flagship camera and bells and whistles, just want it small, light, powerful and with enough space (64GB would be great base). Please no iPhone 8 design... 5s was iconic and for me still looked better than 6s when SE came out, but 6/7/8 just look like any generic Android phone from that era, which nowdays is extremely dated (especially because now even cheap Androids have edge-to-edge screens, no notch, some even OLED...). Unless they make it really cheap, I don't think it would sell like SE did...
 
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I observed that the vast majority of people I know have come to prefer the seamless experience of Fave ID once they used it for a few days.
I also observed that most of the naysayers and people that freely criticise Fave ID do not have an iPhone X, XS or XR, just exposing their preconceived notions of “what works best”. Face ID is the future, and Apple is fully invested in it. You should try it too, it’s a game-changer.
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This!
I already have the Xs Max and prefer the Face ID over Touch ID but people can always get your phone and face it in front of your face to unlock it. What you gonna do, sit there with your eyes closed so it doesn't unlock? Where as with using your finger, you can fight back more lmao
 
Like I said the lack of 3D Touch will be the reason why the next iPhone will have a larger battery. The major question is, still Intel Modem?

And about Touch ID, On Screen Touch ID will likely not be as accurate as the Touch ID we had in iPhone 8. So I think the idea of Touch ID isn't to replace Face ID, but as 2 Factor Security. For Banks, you will now require BOTH your Finger Print and Facial Scan. And if you add a Passcode that is 3 Factor. Apart from adding Retina Scan I don't know how else to get even more security.

Note: The Additional Security is going to go well with Apple Finance, which is their Credit Card Business and All Future Financial Product, likely insurance.
 
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Lack of 3D Touch is a deal breaker for me as I use it ALL the time EVERY DAY. That would completely change my user experience, which is a terrible idea. Even if the majority of their users don’t use it (because they don’t really know how to or are unaware that it’s there). Haptic Touch is trash compared to 3D Touch. Guess I’ll be getting a XS for the next couple years after all... smdh
Yup, looking like I’m in the same boat as you. Either an xs max or just move off iPhone all together. Since eventually I’ll just have to get used to not having 3D Touch anymore when the xs models get too old in a few years too
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Like I said the lack of 3D Touch will be the reason why the next iPhone will have a larger battery. The major question is,
Still Intel Modem?
Yup, pretty much confirmed intel as they settled with Qualcomm too late to bring their modems into the 2019 models
 
I already have the Xs Max and prefer the Face ID over Touch ID but people can always get your phone and face it in front of your face to unlock it. What you gonna do, sit there with your eyes closed so it doesn't unlock? Where as with using your finger, you can fight back more lmao
If you might come to a situation where this is not desirable, just click on the side button 5 times. Give it a try.
 
RIP 3D Touch :'(

I have enjoyed haptic touch on the XR and it’s close but it’s just not quite as good as 3D Touch. The main issue is it’s not as fast. It feels delayed Vs 3D Touch which makes sense. Really sucks if apple will remove it. It makes sense as per prior rumours but just disappointing nonetheless.
 
Laughably incorrect, demonstrating total ignorance of Apple paradigms.
 
You said it yourself. It looks cool. Compared to a full, uninterrupted screen the notch looks like old hat. Keeping the notch will give consumers a reason not to buy an iPhone if full screen alternatives exist. So yes, that’s a problem.
The notch is hardly a reason to not buy an iPhone.

What's the alternative? Buying a full screen phone from Samsung (for example) and being stuck running the garbage known as Android? Or having a screen that can't even properly render content because the lack of color management? Dealing with an inferior ecosystem and inferior Apps?

Nobody cares about the notch (save for a few complainers online who are so arrogant they think they speak for the entire smartphone buying world).
 
The big difference is to get Face ID to work I have to think about how I am holding the iPhone and my facial expression. Touch ID I don't think about being in the "sweet spot" for it to work.
This is the key, right here. The whole point behind Touch ID originally was to make authentication seamless, thus making it practical for anyone to have a strong passcode on their phone because they could seamlessly unlock their device as though there's no passcode present at all.

With Touch ID, you simply pressed the button that you had to press anyway and it authenticated you while you did it. Face ID is a half-baked solution that Apple had to rush out the door in order to remove the Home button once they realized under-screen Touch ID wasn't going to be ready in 2017. You can't use it in any other orientation than portrait upright, it fails out half the time anyway, you have to think about your distance and orientation or your phone won't unlock, and it randomly tried to read your face when you're just holding the phone in your hand -- not trying to unlock -- until it locks out Face ID and you have to enter your passcode.

None of those were issues with Touch ID. It worked with any learned finger, at any angle, regardless of sunlight or distance. You never had to re-rotate your phone when using it landscape and an app wants to use Face ID. It works in the morning when you just wake up. You never had an "accidental" reading where it tried to read your finger and you didn't intend to press the Home button, because there was never a reason to do that. You just pressed, and it worked. Every time. It's a real shame that Apple replaced a technology that worked near perfectly, with Face ID.
 
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