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The NFL and gambling is so hypercritical. The NFL gets in bed with gambling firms, moves a franchise to Las Vegas and then states gambling is bad and players/staff must avoid it.
 
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You understand that, right?
You don't need to convince me. Its the NFL that is sending inconsistent messages, its one thing to suspend a player for gambling and quite another to be in a business relationship with fandual/ceasars/draftkings.

The NFL is also inconsistent in how its dealing with gambling, allowing players to gamble in some ways, but not staff, but if you're a player and at the facility workingout and then bet on something, that's a violation?
 
But the NFL needs to take strong steps to nip this in the bud.
This was one of the major concerns of having a team based on Las Vegas. I'm not sure (as a non-gambler) how easy or hard it is working in Las Vegas but prohibited from certain activities.
 
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Titans expected to sign WR DeAndre Hopkins

Looks like the Pats lost their best opportunity to improve their offense and have a more fighting chance in the AFC East.
Hopkins' history with Patriots OC, Bill O'Brien, probably played a part. BOB traded Nuk to the Cardinals for a 3rd round pick during his bid to be Houston's football tsar. A THIRD rounder! That's an insulting low value for the best WR at the time.
 
Hopkins' history with Patriots OC, Bill O'Brien, probably played a part. BOB traded Nuk to the Cardinals for a 3rd round pick during his bid to be Houston's football tsar. A THIRD rounder! That's an insulting low value for the best WR at the time.

Hopkins took money over winning. Cheifs, Bills, Ravens were the best chances to win.
 
Hopkins took money over winning. Cheifs, Bills, Ravens were the best chances to win.
I won't knock a player for taking money, they have such short window for making hay that they need to get it while they can. Also I'm sure pride comes into play, do you want to be a big fish in a small pond, or a big fish in a large pond with other big fish?

I'm not 100% sold the Hopkins of old, will reappear in Tenn, I'm not saying the Patriots dodge a bullet, they're that much less potent now and they need all of the help they can get in a sacked conference.

As we get closer to training camp, it will be interesting to see where the unemployed running backs land. I think Cook will sign with some team, but I'm not sold that Zeke will. I also think they're now learning a tough lesson, that modern day football does not value the running back position.
 
I won't knock a player for taking money, they have such short window for making hay that they need to get it while they can.
That's partially true; the first part is. But they get enough in their first year to "survive" until they can get a job flipping hamburgers or bagging groceries. One year of $1M salary is equivalent to 50 years at $20,000.* Sure, you can burn $1M in a hurry, if you're not too smart.

or 25 years at $40,000 (etc.)
 
I won't knock a player for taking money, they have such short window for making hay that they need to get it while they can. Also I'm sure pride comes into play, do you want to be a big fish in a small pond, or a big fish in a large pond with other big fish?

I'm not 100% sold the Hopkins of old, will reappear in Tenn, I'm not saying the Patriots dodge a bullet, they're that much less potent now and they need all of the help they can get in a sacked conference.

As we get closer to training camp, it will be interesting to see where the unemployed running backs land. I think Cook will sign with some team, but I'm not sold that Zeke will. I also think they're now learning a tough lesson, that modern day football does not value the running back position.

For a younger player, I can see it. But Hopkins surely has made huge money so far in his career. How much is enough?
 
For a younger player, I can see it. But Hopkins surely has made huge money so far in his career. How much is enough?
I see your point, but what happens if we change it from Hopkins to some senior software developer choosing to go to Google, over Apple, simply because Google was paying more and offering more incentives? The statement "how much is enough" kind of falls flat.

The Chief's have no cap space at the moment and the Bills are right there as well with very little cap space. It seems there was only a couple of teams, interested, willing and able to pay for Hopkins. I have no idea how much he has in the bank, but it doesn't matter, I wouldn't knock a player for getting the most he can. I mean why bother having that money stay in the billionaire owner's bank account?
 
Hopkins took money over winning. Cheifs, Bills, Ravens were the best chances to win.
I won't knock a player for taking money, they have such short window for making hay that they need to get it while they can.
A SB ring isn't a sure thing, but $$$ is.
Also I'm sure pride comes into play, do you want to be a big fish in a small pond, or a big fish in a large pond with other big fish?
Nuk is a high end WR2 at this stage in his career. If he took a massive pay cut to play for the Chiefs or Bills, he'd be the 3rd/4th read. That would be a difficult transition for a guy used to being the #1 option.
I'm not 100% sold the Hopkins of old, will reappear in Tenn, I'm not saying the Patriots dodge a bullet, they're that much less potent now and they need all of the help they can get in a sacked conference.
He's got a better chance of winning in the laughably weak AFC South--either starting 2 rookie QB or 2 career backup--instead of loaded AFC East 2 featuring elite QB.
 
I see your point, but what happens if we change it from Hopkins to some senior software developer choosing to go to Google, over Apple, simply because Google was paying more and offering more incentives? The statement "how much is enough" kind of falls flat.

The Chief's have no cap space at the moment and the Bills are right there as well with very little cap space. It seems there was only a couple of teams, interested, willing and able to pay for Hopkins. I have no idea how much he has in the bank, but it doesn't matter, I wouldn't knock a player for getting the most he can. I mean why bother having that money stay in the billionaire owner's bank account?

Yes, but $200,000 vs a 2 year, $26,000,000 - you can't really compare the two. Hopkins has made probably over $100,000,000 in his career so far.

As far as salary caps go, teams always find a way. Players can make a lot endorsing stuff. A ring will be far more valuable to him than this 2 year contract, when you are "Super Bowl champion DeAndre Hopkins" and not just "DeAndre Hopkins."

And once you retire, you got the money. Where's the ring?

But, to each their own. Different players see things different ways and have different priorities.
 
I think you're missing my point.

With only a limited amount of time to make the most money possible, and with limited options (Tenn & NE) he made the best decision. Again, I applaud him for doing what's best for his career, and he shouldn't be criticized imo trying to get the best deal

you can't really compare the two.
Sure you can. While the money pro players make is obscenely high. I'll go out on a limb and state people working at apple/google/MSFT make obscenely high amounts of money as well. Its truely an apples to apples comparison since an employee shouldn't be knocked for bettering his position, nor should a NFL player. Just my $.02


As far as salary caps go, teams always find a way
Tell that to the Chief's they were the ones that seemingly didn't pursue Hopkins very hard. I'm not defending KC or the Buff, just pointing out that they used up their cap
 
Interesting insights by Tom Curran on the Rich Eisen show. He postulates that BB is most definitely on the hot seat and I tend to agree. Curran implies that Belichick was completely at fault by not giving Brady what he wanted in 2019. I tend to agree with all of Curran said in this interview.

 
Interesting insights by Tom Curran on the Rich Eisen show. He postulates that BB is most definitely on the hot seat and I tend to agree. Curran implies that Belichick was completely at fault by not giving Brady what he wanted in 2019. I tend to agree with all of Curran said in this interview.


Considering Brady retired now, I don't know if 2019 is a factor any more. More likely, the team has not performed to expectations since then. Its not a SB team, but it still has talent.
 
Considering Brady retired now, I don't know if 2019 is a factor any more
Basically what Curran is stating is the hot seat started in 2019 with BB's inability to sign Brady - in all honesty he should have moved heaven and earth to keep him and the subsequent years were largely failures. That hot seat has not cooled but only gotten hotter with each misstep.
 
Let me also add now that every team in the AFC east has markedly improved except for the Patriots, its only going to be harder for Belichick.
 
Let me also add now that every team in the AFC east has markedly improved except for the Patriots, its only going to be harder for Belichick.

It seems the AFC is the clear dominant conference this season. Every time a "name" guy signed, its in the AFC.
 
If all of these guys live up to the hype... it is going to be another good season in the AFC. The NFC right now...

Jackson finally has a few weapons now, so this is the year he either puts up, or he's officially over-rated, a one-hit wonder (his MVP year).
 
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