Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Subjective debates about who deserves what in college football is probably as old as the game itself. And a big reason why it is so popular.

ND can make their points, as can Miami, but ultimately, it's hard to ignore a head-to-head matchup, and there would be much less to debate if ND had won that game.

ND's arrangement with the ACC is one of convenience. Someone better acquainted with their contract might know the details, but it's no surprise that the ACC would advocate for a full member over ND, which is not a full-member, and holds the conference at arms length.

Also important to note that post-season CFB, while it does involve NCAA compliant programs, is not an NCAA sanctioned thing, like the hoops tourney, lower division football, or the "non-revenue"/Olympic sports that nobody watches.

The bowl season is more of free-for-all, the revenue is gravy for the programs, and also for the conferences, according to how each one decides to carve up the turkey among its members.

ND (as well as Cal and Stanford) only receive a minor share of the ACC's revenues, and its "cake and eat it too" contract with NBC gives it the freedom to be picky. Declining a bowl game doesn't directly impact NBC, but ESPN, which broadcasts the majority of the games.

No tears shed for ND in this corner. Any anger that lingers from their, and others' decisions, will be channeled back into efforts to expand the number of teams in the playoff.

They weren't able to get it done this year, but the networks will give their nudge, and the conferences will see the $ signs and put aside their differences enough to make everyone happy, and hopefully richer.

Rinse and repeat. (Also note that the playoff was supposed to mitigate the subjective debates; obviously it hasn't and CFB still benefits from the fandom being riled up. It will have reason to worry when people start to talk less.)
 
But when that 'glorified affiliate' provides more value to the conference than its member institutions, it needs to think long and hard about poking the bear. I'm no fan of Notre Dame - I think they have the most entitled and annoying fan base in college athletics - but they're still a big swinging d*** when it comes to TV revenue and putting butts in the seats. The ACC is playing a big game of FAFO, IMO.
Source for that? Football is the (indirect) source of the vast majority of the P4 conferences' revenue. I would be very surprised if Notre Dame contributes more value to the ACC as a non-football member than the other members do. I'd be less surprised, but still surprised, if they find another major conference willing to part with football media rights.

The ACC will be just fine as a second-tier P4 conference for a while, barring further realignment. Notre Dame should be careful not to overplay its hand.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pachyderm
Seems to me the entire sports organizations provoke this silly confusional controversy
ONLY so people can debate (now called: argue), click and then bets.
 
wowzers, I never knew having a dismal non-top 12 season with a prominent national champion team
not only fired but can get a guy arrested!
Its not performance related,he allegedly had a relationship with a staff member. Unlike the other coaches fired this year, this is for cause, which means the college doesn't have to deal with the buyout provisions, i.e., he gets nothing.
 


wow!
 
  • Wow
Reactions: C0ncreteBl0nde
I'm still in shock, that in 2025, someone who's seemingly smart enough to lead a college football program, thinks that starting a relationship with a staff member is a good things.

There's a certain book I live by (but due to MR rules I cannot state), tells us to flee sexual immorality, all other "bad things" are to be resisted. That just shows how strong those urges are and how they can cause seemingly intelligent people to make stupid decisions.

Moore gambled his 5 million dollar a year salary and lost, and now that he's been arrested, he largely caused his career to go down in flames. It will take a long time to rebuild it but its possible - just look at Bobby Petrino, he has clawed his way back somewhat from his prior indiscretions
 
  • Like
Reactions: pachyderm
I'm still in shock, that in 2025, someone who's seemingly smart enough to lead a college football program, thinks that starting a relationship with a staff member is a good things.

There's a certain book I live by (but due to MR rules I cannot state), tells us to flee sexual immorality, all other "bad things" are to be resisted. That just shows how strong those urges are and how they can cause seemingly intelligent people to make stupid decisions.

Moore gambled his 5 million dollar a year salary and lost, and now that he's been arrested, he largely caused his career to go down in flames. It will take a long time to rebuild it but its possible - just look at Bobby Petrino, he has clawed his way back somewhat from his prior indiscretions
I guess Moore really wanted More.

only presidents can play grab-butt and remain unscathed.
 
From teh internets:
....."there's a male at the location and the house attacking her" and noted that the suspect had been "stalking her for months."furthermore The audio states that the suspect, "did put a knife to his throat and ran out." ,,Moore, 39, was booked into Washtenaw County Jail in Michigan, Fox News Digital confirmed. No charges were listed since he was at the helm during that upset victory over Ohio State last November."

if only I placed a bet that a head coach would commit these action in October on usportsbetsuka,com
when the opportunity arose!

wow this has nothing to due with MacBooks or anything  or really college football expect the perps.
 
From teh internets:
....."there's a male at the location and the house attacking her" and noted that the suspect had been "stalking her for months."furthermore The audio states that the suspect, "did put a knife to his throat and ran out." ,,Moore, 39, was booked into Washtenaw County Jail in Michigan, Fox News Digital confirmed. No charges were listed since he was at the helm during that upset victory over Ohio State last November."

if only I placed a bet that a head coach would commit these action in October on usportsbetsuka,com
when the opportunity arose!

wow this has nothing to due with MacBooks or anything  or really college football expect the perps.
What!?!
 
Two bowl games scheduled for today.

The 8:00pm looks like a good game watch.

Tbh, I don't recall hearing about Prairie View A&M, I googled it thinking they're new entrants to Div I football, but nope, they've been there since the 1990s - go figure. SC and PV A&M are 9 & 3 and 10 & 3 respectively, so that could be a good game, but its hard to spend my saturday afternoon in front of the tv for 3 hours. It all depends if my wife and kids take all available vehicles.

1765627689204.png
 
I enjoy Bowl season - bring it on! I'll watch Boise St/Washington while wrapping presents tonight.
Me too, its something that I look forward too every December/January. What's funny is after 1/1/xx, I'm largely done. I know these past few years more and more bowl games occur after new years day, but my interest at that point has waned.

I'll probably watch some of the CFP, but I've yet to watch the championship game since they went with this playoff format. It happens well into the month of January and I've already moved on from college football by then
 
Both of these games turned out how I'd hoped.

Boise State deserves to lose just for their stupid blue field. I know that's incredibly arbitrary but here we are... lol
I was rooting for Prairie View, for no other reason that they seemed like a fun team. They jumped out to a quick lead, but like many teams that do that, they seemingly let up in the 2nd half.

As for the other game. I was surprised at how Washington took control of the game in the 2nd quarter. In like the first game, where SC came back, it was all but over at halftime
 
  • Like
Reactions: pachyderm
So last night the heisman award was handed out and Indiania's Mendoza was the winner. Tbh, I think the heisman trophy is one of the most over-rated awards. Most of the winners don't see the level of success in the NFL that they do in college. Far too many of them are considered flops, at least in the pros.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.