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2025-2026 NFL Thread
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Yeah - looks like each league is taking a different approach to parity. And each has benefits and flaws.
NBA as a ~160 million cap, and when you look at top salaries, you see that so many players have so-called 'super max' contracts that teams like the Warriors, Celtics, Lakers, Clippers, and 76ers all have TWO players making >$50 million/year. Drop to 45 million and you bring in Nuggets, Kings, Cavs, etc. Heck the Clippers and 76ers each have 3 players who combine for >$140 million ... out of $160 million max! That means you have a total of $20 million for the remaining 12 players. No wonder you end up with teams dealing with 'luxury tax'!
The #1 Offense vs the #1 Defense. The Defense prevailed.😎 For the second week in a row, a seemingly meaningless missed PAT in the 1st quarter ended up being pivotal to the game. Indy could have forced OT.
wow!
what a NFLs game last night
too bad I wanted the broncos to win so I could finally fall sleep
which effected my mood during the last 1/4 and OT.
the Redskins looked great and should have won,
they made some excellent or lucky catches that were unbelievable!
Mariota was spectacular except for two plays.
I regret not enjoying the live action and just wanting to match to end.
what a NFLs game last night
too bad I wanted the broncos to win so I could finally fall sleep
which effected my mood during the last 1/4 and OT.
the Redskins looked great and should have won,
they made some excellent or lucky catches that were unbelievable!
Mariota was spectacular except for two plays.
I regret not enjoying the live action and just wanting to match to end.
I didn't watch the game, and I woke up to espn detailing a benches clearing hit on Dart. After watching the highlight, I'm like is that it? A clean hit below the head while he was still inbounds and running. This hit was nothing like what we used to see before they put dresses on the quarterbacks*
*if you get the reference it was from Jack Lambert in a 1979 interview.
*if you get the reference it was from Jack Lambert in a 1979 interview.
Grogan, Nelson, Morgan, Francis, and Cunningham would have been proud.
Not for nothing, I always liked the old unis, I never really embraced the Elvis Patriot look
Its not as entertaining as this. No, its not complete and yes, this guy needs a ladder
The whispers have turned into fans chanting, and others talking - Time for Mike Tomlin to go.
The latest person to say its time for Tomlin to go is Big Ben, which is a bit shocking.
His record is such that he largely wins 10+ games per season, which is pretty good but they've not won 2 playoff games in 10 years and did not get to the AFC championship game since 2010. One could make the argument the 2008 superbowl win was largely with Bill Cowher's team
Because they get into the wildcard or division playoff but then lose that game, their draft spot is rather low. The team has never gone through a rebuild and it shows. They keep patching the cracks, do just good enough to make the playoff and lose that first game.
The latest person to say its time for Tomlin to go is Big Ben, which is a bit shocking.
His record is such that he largely wins 10+ games per season, which is pretty good but they've not won 2 playoff games in 10 years and did not get to the AFC championship game since 2010. One could make the argument the 2008 superbowl win was largely with Bill Cowher's team
Because they get into the wildcard or division playoff but then lose that game, their draft spot is rather low. The team has never gone through a rebuild and it shows. They keep patching the cracks, do just good enough to make the playoff and lose that first game.
So that could be interpreted as Tomlin is a great coach and he is able to take a bad team to the playoffs every year. Maybe they should look into the GM.
I'm not saying he's a bad coach, but rather his time in Pittsburgh may be coming to an end. I remember something that Steve Mariucci had said that coaches of expiration dates, regardless of their success.
As for who should be responsible for the roster - the GM definitely needs to his feet held to the fire. They've never had a franchise QB since Big Ben retired. Yet with that said, Tomlin needs to accept some responsibility for the steeler's inability to win a playoff game since 2016.
No, it can't. Tomlin has an influence over the drafting.
Its about Tomlin not being a particularly good coach. He can motivate men, sometimes. Otherwise they underperform pathetically. Tomlin likes to say he doesn't "live in his fears". He builds entire communities in his fears. If you shoved a lump of coal up his ass before kickoff against the Ravens, you would have a diamond by halftime.
He isn't a good picker of coaches and I think he drives some of the better ones away. He pissed away the end of Ben's career.
A good measure of a coach is how their staff advance after they leave the team. Cowher had a great tree with at least 2 head coaches coming out (Chan Gailey, Ken Whisenhunt) and others succeeding elsewhere.
Tomlins coaching tree looks like this:
The QB situation has been botched and that is as much on Tomlin as anyone else. And anyone who expected more out of Rogers than he had shown with the Jets wasn't paying attention.
A lot of this is about an organization that values stability over everything else. They don't change things often and as long as butts are in the seats, I don't expect that to change.
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I guess. I am not sure they are going to get a better coach than Mike Tomlin.
Yeah I guess it would come down to who decides the personnel there. I am not as familiar with their situation as some of the other franchises, so I really don’t know.No, it can't. Tomlin has an influence over the drafting.
Its about Tomlin not being a particularly good coach. He can motivate men, sometimes. Otherwise they underperform pathetically. Tomlin likes to say he doesn't "live in his fears". He builds entire communities in his fears.
Tomlins coaching tree looks like this:
The QB situation has been botched and that is as much on Tomlin as anyone else. And anyone who expected more out of Rogers than he had shown with the Jets wasn't paying attention.
A lot of this is about an organization that values stability over everything else. They don't change things often and as long as butts are in the seats, I don't expect that to change.
As was pointed out on (local) ESPN radio on the drive home: Slow your roll, the Pats have been playing a last place schedule.
By that yardstick, the Marty Schottenhiemer (0 SB wins) is a better coach than Bill Belichick (6 SB wins).
Marty's coaching tree:
- Tony Dungy: 148-79 record
- Bill Cowher: 161-99-1 record
- Mike McCarthy: 125-77-2 record
- Bruce Arians: 86-51-1 recprd
- Last and least, Herm Edwards: 54-74 record (only one with a losing record)
- Eric Mangini: 33-48 record
- Josh McDaniels: 20-33 record
- Bill O'Brien: 52-48 record (only one with a winning record)
- Matt Patricia: 13-29-1 record
- Brian Flores: 24-25 record
- Joe Judge: 10-23 record
- Brian Daboll: 21-41-1 record
- Last and least, Jerod Mayo: 4-13 record
A lot of Bill's coaches have been fails, but they still made it to other teams and coaching opportunities. Mostly because other teams were desperate and hoped some magic had rubbed off on them. In retrospect a lot of them haven't been regarded as good hires and weren't necessarily at the time.
Dungy was a coach in Minnesota, then Pittsburgh from 1982-1988, before 3 years with KC under Marty (89-91), which was followed by 4 years in Minnesota under Dennis Green (92-95). So no, I wouldn't consider him a protege of Marty. Dungy came into the league with an incredible knowledge of the game, something commented on by HoF Steelers in the America's Game episoded for the 78 season.
Interesting fact: Dungy is the most recent NFL player to intercept a pass and throw an interception in the same game. Dungy was the emergency quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers in a 1977 game against the Houston Oilers when both Terry Bradshaw and Mike Kruczek went down with injuries on October 9.[5][6][7]
Bruce Arians coached in college for 13 years before he worked for Marty.
I also wonder if Bill's disciples don't succeed as much (Josh McDaniels as an O-coordinator the exception), because Bill is so hands on with the Defense.
Herm "You play to win the game" Edwards I mostly regard as an idiot.
Interesting fact: As a player, Edwards is known for scoring the game-winning touchdown off a fumble recovery in 1978's Miracle at the Meadowlands
The Miracle at the Meadowlands was a fumble recovery by cornerback Herman Edwards of the Philadelphia Eagles that he returned for a touchdown at the end of a November 19, 1978, National Football League (NFL) game against the New York Giants in Giants Stadium. After quarterback Joe Pisarcik botched an attempt to hand off the football to fullback Larry Csonka, Edwards picked up the dropped ball and ran 26 yards for the winning touchdown. It is considered miraculous because the Giants were ahead 17–12 and could easily have run out the final seconds since they had the ball and the Eagles had no timeouts left.
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