The stats are very similar though their first 18 games but Brady performed at an elite level for 23 years with 7 super bowls. So while I am hopeful, Drake has a long long way to go.
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I was wondering the same. Spiritually, probably, but technically, no. He started coaching with the Texans before jumping to the Titans.
Brady didn’t perform at an elite level for 23 years. That’s fan boy revisionist history. He was a low risk game manager for the beginning of his career and through at least a couple SBs his contribution was not screwing up and getting the team into FG range at the end of the game.
I am a fan boy i suppose but I do not disagree -- Brady was not "elite" coming into the league although he progressed into that category eventually. So, Maye is not "elite" either. My main contention was that Maye and Brady are equal thus far in their respective careers but Maye has a very long way to go to stay comparable to Brady, who progressed from highly consistent to elite.
There's a lot of nostalgia amongst NFL fans for the BillB-Brady days that folks are hoping Vrabel-The Drake can recreate. Certainly, long suffering Pats fans deserve a break.
Don’t equivocate, it’s a bad take.
We need to judge coaches by their OWN win-loss record and number of Super Bowl wins. Not what their people did. That’s a different argument. Heck by that argument Bill Parcells would be the best anyway because he gets to claim Bill Belichick.
I bet he'd have a different attitude if he had to play QB... especially back then.
And if they get rid of Tomlin, then what? I suspect they'll spend a long stretch with producing the kind of season record that the once mighty Raiders now "enjoy"
Yeah, that's been the argument for keeping him, for years, who else are you going to get. Again I don't see him being a bad coach, but as Bill Parcells once said, you're only as good as your record, and his post season record is horrible
I don't. That hasn't happened historically to the Steelers. There is no reason for bedwetting to commence if Tomlin leaves. But that is a standard response: "Oh yeah, well who is going to replace him, how do you know they won't be worse?" At this point my answer is anyone who is semi competent.
The fact is, Tomlin isn't going to get any better and the results aren't going to change. Its been that way for over a decade. The Steelers aren't run as poorly as other organizations (Browns/Titans/Raiders/etc.) and have always been solid or better drafters. Any semi-decent coach is going to have a good support system around him and non-knee jerk management.
A lot of the issues you see with bottom dwellers are related to bad drafting decisions and coaching-GM pairs that are treated hands off by the ownership. Or impatient ownership that don't allow enough time for a coach to turn things around. Or teams that totally mortgage their future and it doesn't pay off. That isn't the Rooney way. The coach has no input on the GM. The GM and the coach (and others) have input on the draft.
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Mike Tomlin and the Rooneys have just reached the end, and it's best for both to just move on. Terry Francona had reached the end with the Red Sox and later the Guardians, it doesn't mean either Mike or Tito couldn't coach or manage any more. The players, the ownership, the fans and the local media just need a change.
I very nominally follow the Broncos. Back at university in 1986/87 when British tv picked up NFL, I just kind of picked them. Sure there has been some success in the intervening 40 years but the last few years have been pretty disappointing so could someone please tell me what the hell is happening this year?
Your Denver Broncos as helmed by Sean Payton are on schedule as this is year 3 of the turnaround. Payton's cleaned out the dead wood, cleaned up the balance sheet (in the parlance of Wall Street) and gotten a lot more out of Bo Nix than a lot of people thought. Home field at Mile High is huge so if they can finish strong and let the Patriots come back to the field, they might eke out the #1 seed a bye the Super Bowl would run through Colorado.
Yes, It's entirely possible that the Steelers could replace Tomlin and improve.
You suggest that the Steelers "...have always been solid or better drafters..."
But consider their attempts to prepare for the inevitable departure of an aging Roethlisberger. They've had several years before and then again several after he left, but still no replacement in sight.....not such an impressive result
Bo Nix is happening this year....
They need to go through a rebuild, not just patching the existing team
No. Its a Captain Obvious situation what happened and that the results have been subpar. They have been trying and will continue to fix that situation.
None of which changes the fact that the Steelers are still managing to avoid mediocrity and largely remain competitive without a franchise QB.
I enjoyed last nights game. It was competitive, and the Cowboys lost. I was surprised by the high level performance by the Lion D.
If Lamb hadn't gone out, Dallas might well have won last night.
If Lamb hadn't gone out, Dallas might well have won last night.
The Texans #1 D and #1 scoring D is making Mahomes look like Trent Dilfer. QBR of 14.😵💫 Day-um. I don't think I've ever seen a QB rating that low before.😲
This D is championship caliber. It made Josh Allen look pedestrian. It gave Mahomes the worst game of his career; possibly the worst game of any QB. If only our offense was so offensive.😐
This D is championship caliber. It made Josh Allen look pedestrian. It gave Mahomes the worst game of his career; possibly the worst game of any QB. If only our offense was so offensive.😐
I really feel bad for Daniel Jones, he was having a great year and boom, its all over.
The playoff race is tightening up (only the top 7 get in)
In the AFC:
I don't see the colts recovering from losing Jones, Ravens are unlikely to run the table, and I can see KC going 2-2 with the remaining schedule.
In the NFC I can see the Lions making a push for that last playoff spot (I'm unsure the Bears will be able to hold on to that last spot - if they keep wining they're in) both the Panthers and the Cowboys have a real shot of winning their divisions, so its quite possible to see both of them in. That means the Eagles, and Bucs get pushed out.
The playoff race is tightening up (only the top 7 get in)
In the AFC:
I don't see the colts recovering from losing Jones, Ravens are unlikely to run the table, and I can see KC going 2-2 with the remaining schedule.
In the NFC I can see the Lions making a push for that last playoff spot (I'm unsure the Bears will be able to hold on to that last spot - if they keep wining they're in) both the Panthers and the Cowboys have a real shot of winning their divisions, so its quite possible to see both of them in. That means the Eagles, and Bucs get pushed out.
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this year they were resilient, meaning they won several games on the last second.
as the last few seasons they would lose those games.
their defense is one the best and Bo Nix makes that 3 and a mile completion pass this season.
their coach decided to eat the clock and run the ball than pass as that plan worked
in their second 4 or more point victory this season.
now How is Aston Villa "Table Toppers" and could be top of the league before Boxing Day?
besides saying John McGinn..... or Matty Cash.
he gets some credit, but not that much as he deserves some,Bo Nix is happening this year....
since there are other Broncos that are playing better at their positions, which is great for the team
Tho Bo is going to Grow!
It is wild to think that Tom Brady's worst game (the 2014 loss to the Chiefs leading to "we're on to Cincinnati") he had a ~60QBR. Obviously an overreaction to say anything negative about either Mahomes or the Chiefs, but the increasing year over year need to pull seasons out of their butts feels like it might be catching up with them. And Kelce just looks old.