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The summer olympics are always more popular, larger and have more events, no question. I like the winter olympics partly because there's really no sports happening in Feburary that interest me, so this is a nice diversion for the next 2 weeks.

After that, we're approaching March and baseball will be on the horizon 🙂
I guess for me, the nice about February, is, like you, little sport that I'm bothered to watch, and so it's a down month, and an energy boosting, sleep building month. Baseball, Aussie Rules, F1 all start soon, PL and Champions League heats up, then comes the back to back Tennis Grand Slams...

I'm exhausted just thinking about it.
 
Now I've never been a fan of opening ceremonies, but there's some really huge standouts, people are still talking about the 2008 summer Olympics with the massive opening ceremony.
Well ... communist dictatorships always manage good displays 😁

I, supporting my home town, think the 2012 one was the best.
 
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I cheer 200% on Lindsey Vonn today - hope it works out well for her 1st, and why not winning, with
a torn cruciate ligament 👍⛷️
 
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Lindsey Vonn crashed out - one has to wonder if it was wise to have her compete given both her age, and lack of ACL. I don't follow the sport very closely when its not being showcased in the Olympics, but leading up to the Olympics, any news about her, was her desire to compete and it struck me very much like any other aging athlete desperately trying to hang on the glory of youth that has long faded.

To put it another way, was there a more competent and healthier athlete wanting to be in the Olympics that she displaced?
 
Well as I posted on the "What's on your mind" thread I was pretty shocked to read about her accident. @maflynn brings up a good point about the possibility of healthier athlete that could have gone instead. I myself follow hockey and figure skating the most so will be posting about it here rather than the other thread. One reason I respect atheletes who bow out when it's time. Kaori Sakamoto (Japanese figure skater) is retiring after these games after a worthy career for example.
 
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1. I most definitely think Lindsey Vonn deserved a chance to participate with her her resume in the sport. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Vonn

To say something else is disrespectful towards her, and even the sport.
But people without knowledge about sport in general, and downhill skiing, can say what they wan’t.
It would be like someone on a computer-forum talking about a Mac, without never even seen any, and less used one.

2. All athletics on any high leve are to challenge the body - Immensely.
People who haven’t competed on any high level have absolutelyno idea. But Athletes do it all the time, and have highly trained medical-teams who support, advice and are with them all the time.

I honor Lindsey’s courage and attempt to race today, and wish her the best healing now ♥️
 
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Lindsey Vonn crashed out - one has to wonder if it was wise to have her compete given both her age, and lack of ACL. I don't follow the sport very closely when its not being showcased in the Olympics, but leading up to the Olympics, any news about her, was her desire to compete and it struck me very much like any other aging athlete desperately trying to hang on the glory of youth that has long faded.

To put it another way, was there a more competent and healthier athlete wanting to be in the Olympics that she displaced?
Former alpine racer here…IMO this view completely misses the mark. Prior to the Olympics, she was performing almost like her old self during this World Cup season. Currently 6th overall in the FIS standings, and 1st overall in downhill (today’s event) and 3rd in Super G. 7 podium finishes. So to say that a more competent athlete would be better suited to run is ridiculous. Even with the injury, her training runs were more than adequate and demonstrated that she could be competitive.
 
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Not sure why you're laughing at my post, given that its not a sport I follow but but I'm pleased I brought some enjoyment to your life.

My point remains - I question the wisdom in letting someone who has no ACL compete in the olympics and thus denying a healthier athlete from participating though the question remains will she compete in her other events or not.
 
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Not sure why you're laughing at my post, given that its not a sport I follow but but I'm pleased I brought some enjoyment to your life.

My point remains - I question the wisdom in letting someone who has no ACL compete in the olympics and thus denying a healthier athlete from participating though the question remains will she compete in her other events or not.
She tore the ACL a week ago Friday. Her training runs were decent enough to at least try. I had a bad feeling about it all since the press conference but it was her decision. I just hope he recovers and is able to live a pain free life. I do think she should retire now.
 
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Not sure why you're laughing at my post, given that its not a sport I follow but but I'm pleased I brought some enjoyment to your life.

My point remains - I question the wisdom in letting someone who has no ACL compete in the olympics and thus denying a healthier athlete from participating though the question remains will she compete in her other events or not.
Wasn’t meant to offend, but it appears that I have. More of an agree to disagree. I was simply amused that someone can issue a hot take and then use the old trope “well I don’t even follow the sport so…”. I already provided my stance as to why there was “wisdom” in letting her run. She was at the top of the FIS leaderboards for this particular discipline, had completed training post injury (and even came in 3rd on the last training run yesterday), and has a full medical and coaching staff supporting her. If she was unable to complete a training run and wasn’t competing at the top of her game in the World Cup, then maybe I’d agree with you. She also has an extensive history of overcoming injuries and still competing and has significant experience and 12 WC wins in Cortina. I don’t think she was robbing any one of a spot to compete and deserved a chance to be there. This was a seasoned veteran that has deep experience, respect, and technical knowledge of the course and limits.
 
She tore the ACL a week ago Friday. Her training runs were decent enough to at least try.
No question she was able to do her practice runs, but it just doesn't seem to be smart decision, that she lost on of the major ligaments that stabilize the knee which she'll presumably need for down hill skiing.
I was simply amused that someone can issue a hot take and then use the old trope “well I don’t even follow the sport so…”.
I'm not sure why you think its an old trope but I think a large segment of people watching the Olympics do not follow those sports by and large. I love watching the Skiathon events, and nordic events that will be coming up, but I've never watched them outside of the olympics, nor do I know of any of the athletes. I think my situation is more typical, so not knowing Vonn's details shouldn't be surpriising
 
No question she was able to do her practice runs, but it just doesn't seem to be smart decision, that she lost on of the major ligaments that stabilize the knee which she'll presumably need for down hill skiing.

I'm not sure why you think its an old trope but I think a large segment of people watching the Olympics do not follow those sports by and large. I love watching the Skiathon events, and nordic events that will be coming up, but I've never watched them outside of the olympics, nor do I know of any of the athletes. I think my situation is more typical, so not knowing Vonn's details shouldn't be surpriising
Again. Agree to disagree.
 
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More of an agree to disagree. I was simply amused that someone can issue a hot take and then use the old trope “well I don’t even follow the sport so…”.
That is a pretty common thing in MR, especially when it comes to anything Women’s Sport, of some strange reason from ignorant men.

I already provided my stance as to why there was “wisdom” in letting her run. She was at the top of the FIS leaderboards for this particular discipline, had completed training post injury (and even came in 3rd on the last training run yesterday), and has a full medical and coaching staff supporting her. If she was unable to complete a training run and wasn’t competing at the top of her game in the World Cup, then maybe I’d agree with you. She also has an extensive history of overcoming injuries and still competing and has significant experience and 12 WC wins in Cortina. I don’t think she was robbing any one of a spot to compete and deserved a chance to be there. This was a seasoned veteran that has deep experience, respect, and technical knowledge of the course and limits.
Of course, if there was any chance, she definitely should make an attempt, absolutely.
She even deserved it with her experience.
If this was a male Skier, or a comment from someone who at least had any idea of professional sport, the comment’s had at least been respectful.
 
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Women's free skate for the team event. Japan and the US are now in a tie thanks to Kaori's performance - she will be missed as this is her last Olympics. I liked Amber Glenn's performance though it was not quite up to her best level. Anastasia Gubanova did well for Georgia too.
 
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Lindsey Vonn racing without an ACL apparently isn't that uncommon:

It sounds completely absurd to ski race without an ACL, which Lindsey Vonn says she will attempt to do at these Olympics. The ACL is the key ligament in the knee, connecting the thigh to the shin. It provides stability, which is a good thing to have when you are flying down a steep, icy slope at 80 mph.

So what is Vonn, the Alpine star who on Tuesday revealed the extent of her injury after a fall last week in Switzerland, doing?

In fact, she is doing what many other ski racers have done before.

“The dirty secret is that it happens in skiing, and some people talk about it and some don’t,” said Breezy Johnson, a downhill teammate of Vonn’s.

Johnson tore her ACL a month before the 2022 Olympics. She tried to ski on it and felt it was a bridge too far. She was also just 26 at the time and figured she could be back, which she is.

But Vonn is 41. This is it for her. Joana Hählen of Switzerland has done it without surgery. American Bode Miller was always cagey about the state of his knee ligaments. Carlo Janka of Switzerland tore his ACL in 2017 and competed in the Olympics just over two months later without surgery.

Even Vonn’s youth coach from Buck Hill in Minnesota has done it.

“I competed for three years with no ACL. Can be done,” said Tony Olin in a text message. “It’s like mechanicals on a car, a broken suspension part … gotta fix it and keep driving.”


 
Lindsey Vonn racing without an ACL apparently isn't that uncommon:

It sounds completely absurd to ski race without an ACL, which Lindsey Vonn says she will attempt to do at these Olympics. The ACL is the key ligament in the knee, connecting the thigh to the shin. It provides stability, which is a good thing to have when you are flying down a steep, icy slope at 80 mph.

So what is Vonn, the Alpine star who on Tuesday revealed the extent of her injury after a fall last week in Switzerland, doing?

In fact, she is doing what many other ski racers have done before.

“The dirty secret is that it happens in skiing, and some people talk about it and some don’t,” said Breezy Johnson, a downhill teammate of Vonn’s.

Johnson tore her ACL a month before the 2022 Olympics. She tried to ski on it and felt it was a bridge too far. She was also just 26 at the time and figured she could be back, which she is.

But Vonn is 41. This is it for her. Joana Hählen of Switzerland has done it without surgery. American Bode Miller was always cagey about the state of his knee ligaments. Carlo Janka of Switzerland tore his ACL in 2017 and competed in the Olympics just over two months later without surgery.

Even Vonn’s youth coach from Buck Hill in Minnesota has done it.

“I competed for three years with no ACL. Can be done,” said Tony Olin in a text message. “It’s like mechanicals on a car, a broken suspension part … gotta fix it and keep driving.”


Anecdotally, I know of at least half a dozen folks in my ski racing circle who had ligament or other mid/lower body injuries like labral tears, and it seems very dependent on the person. Some can bounce back with minor changes, some with surgery/rigorous therapy, and some just can’t get over a plateau and it changes them for good. Very indicative of the wonders/pitfalls of the human body and sport.
 
Anecdotally, I know of at least half a dozen folks in my ski racing circle who had ligament or other mid/lower body injuries like labral tears, and it seems very dependent on the person. Some can bounce back with minor changes, some with surgery/rigorous therapy, and some just can’t get over a plateau and it changes them for good. Very indicative of the wonders/pitfalls of the human body and sport.
Same in Football (soccer) - I know that part - plus ’most' other sports too. The body is no machine, you have to pay a price when pushing it at high levels.
Most athletes that love what they are doing are willing to pay the price. Fortunately for athletes the knowledge in surgery keeps evolving with sports.
 
For what it is worth, Lindsey Vonn was brave, and she don’t regret anything I’ve heard 👍

Sweden will meet USA in mixed Curling later today.
My knowledge was not big before the games. See if I remember to watch, all opportunities to beat US is always fun 😉
 
For what it is worth, Lindsey Vonn was brave, and she don’t regret anything I’ve heard 👍
Absolutely, and not surprised. 🫀

Sweden will meet USA in mixed Curling later today.
My knowledge was not big before the games. See if I remember to watch, all opportunities to beat US is always fun 😉
Saw both US matches versus Italy... very close both times. We'll see how it goes with the Swedes. 💃🕺
 
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