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24'' LED Cinema and In-Ear Headphones Shipping Soon?

ManhattanPrjct said:
For another $20, you can get the Bose In-Ear Headphone with different replaceable tips to match the size of your ear. Bose is a clear leader in this field at this price-point. I have to wonder sometimes what Apple is thinking when it decides on new products (and what to charge for them).
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Please. Bose products are awful. You're buying a name thats on a crappy product. Don't be fooled.

I'm just wondering why discontinue the current in ears at 40 bucks when the new ones cost twice as much. Pretty dumb move if you ask me.

Those new in ears with mic better work with iphone.
 
fastbite said:
Will the in Ears 'fully' work with the iPhone, volume control included???
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Apparently not, from what I've read anyway. The volume doesn't work - hoping that 2.2 fixes this problem though, but I'm not overly optimistic.

IIRC the LED ACD is HD - it has a resolution of 1920x1200 anyway.

Oh, and LaJaca, the $79 price was introduced at the Let's Rock Media Event in September.
 
I used the Apple Cinema Display 24 inch at an Apple store two weeks ago. Pretty cool, but it's already been available.
 
Poor specs

Pretty disappointing specs. A 14ms response time is very poor compared to some monitors shipping with 6ms or less. It only has a 330 cd/m^2 compared to others with 400. Is that because it's an LED?
 
Whats the point in having a 24" display that only works with 3 products? If all Apple displays like this that means that Mini Display Port will end up on all products, even the Mac Pro. Apple must be absolutely mental if they think people will buy a $20 connector to attach to a normal DVI monitor to there $3000 computer. I guess they will supply both DVI and MDP.

This display will not sell, I can't emphasize that enough. Its not a consumer display because of the price. And whilst it might have amazing picture quality justifying that price like the current displays, it has a glossy screen meaning Pros wont buy it. I wont get into a matte vs. glossy debate, but the bottom line is, pros want matte. This display does not have a target market, other than the few pros who like glossy, and the consumer with more money than brains.

Apple seem to be making products based on what Steve Jobs and Tim Cook likes, and not what buyers like. And Steve Jobs has got major wood for glossy.
 
The spec sheet for the in ear headphone says it's only compatible with the itouch, nano and classic.. the mic and remote isn't compatible with the iphone... what's up with that?!?
 
I wish the new in-ears worked for the iPhone.

The fact that "the best iPod we've ever made" doesn't support the best headphones Apple makes is downright peculiar.
 
LaJaca said:
Anyone else notice the new headphones go for 79 bones? They'd better be pretty darn good for that price.

Personally, no thanks, Apple.
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It's crazy cause after some time, we won't be able to purchase the already high priced $30 headphones and will be forced to purchase a 3rd party set of headphones or save up 3 weeks worth of pay to get the $80 pair. Those things def. better be worth it. I mean, they better massage my nuts while I browse my library for that price.
 
nanvinnie said:
The spec sheet for the in ear headphone says it's only compatible with the itouch, nano and classic.. the mic and remote isn't compatible with the iphone... what's up with that?!?
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Exactly! I have sent them feedback numerous times about the need for a in-ear designed headphones with built in slim mic to use with the iPhone. Same as the ones currently shipping with the iPhone (love the slim design and implementation of the mic/ button) but with in-ear-canal for noise isolation and better sound.

What on earth are they thinking???
 
RichardF said:
Exactly! I have sent them feedback numerous times about the need for a in-ear designed headphones with built in slim mic to use with the iPhone. Same as the ones currently shipping with the iPhone (love the slim design and implementation of the mic/ button) but with in-ear-canal for noise isolation and better sound.

What on earth are they thinking???
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Seriously!!! I don't get it? Why purposely design the new in-ear's to not be compatible with iphone? that's so bogus!!

For now I bought the Sennheiser CX400s. They work great for me, but NO SLIM MIC!!!!

Geez... really? Is it THAT hard to do?
 
ManhattanPrjct said:
For another $20, you can get the Bose In-Ear Headphone with different replaceable tips to match the size of your ear. Bose is a clear leader in this field at this price-point. I have to wonder sometimes what Apple is thinking when it decides on new products (and what to charge for them).
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Actually, if you look at the product page the Apple in-ear headphones include three sets of silicone tips for different ear canal sizes and a carrying case. The problem with Bose products (aside from the price) is that they refuse to post specs about their stuff, insisting it's proprietary and "better than everyone else". While their marketing is a lot like Apple's (hey we're hip and cool and our products are slick and shiny), for the price you pay you can get much better products elsewhere.
 
I guess we can all agree that this 24" Cinema Display is not intended for pros. iMac displays are terrible when it comes to color accuracy. Two of those 24" should do well for Audio people, but then there's no way to hook those things up to a Mac Pro right now.

So either Apple would have to update the Display line with Some kind of Apple Pro display (24", 30" and why not a 2:1 aspect ratio 36" screen) or abandon the pro market for good. Either way, a 40" 2:1 screen would be awesome, think 3200 x 1600 resolution. That's a current 30" display plus the half of another one. If you still need more space, you can add 30" display to the left and right of it, That would be Video editor' paradise :)

[30"][ 40" ][30"]

I for one like the Dell Ultrasharp line very much. Not as pretty as the Apple ones, but way cheaper, more versatile (also have VGA and USB HUBS) and you can rotate them 90. Picture specs are comparable.
 
nanvinnie said:
The spec sheet for the in ear headphone says it's only compatible with the itouch, nano and classic.. the mic and remote isn't compatible with the iphone... what's up with that?!?
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Yeah, so I guess you can't buy the headphones that came with the iPhone anymore? I'm on my second pair because they just fall apart on me (in about 6-8 months). Hopefully 2.2 will fix it and the mic, remote, and wishful thinking...volume will all work with the iPhone. I'd buy them after this pair breaks if they have at least the features I have now. And someone said the old ones were $40, I thought they were $30?
 
Object-X said:
Pretty disappointing specs. A 14ms response time is very poor compared to some monitors shipping with 6ms or less. It only has a 330 cd/m^2 compared to others with 400. Is that because it's an LED?
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Ignore such specifications. Manufacturers use different methods to measure response time and contrast ratio for example.

Take my Fujitsu Plasmavision TV. Fujitsu specification states it has a 400:1 contrast ratio, but others who use the same plasma glass screen state 2000:1, one even states 20,000:1.

Response time is just as bad. Sony and LG are good culprits, the same LCD screen used in one model has a response of 16ms, a year later an new model with the same screen which is 8ms, then a year later the exact same LCD screen is used but has a response of 6ms. Go figure.


Oh, and those who stated Bose are poor performers, yes they are awful, and people please do not fall for Bose marketing. They cause such a stir within the industry because they are such poor products they are not allowed to be a part of the Audio Engineering Society or CEDIA, says a lot. Their hi-fi products are not designed or made by them, you can buy the same products in many other brand names for 1/4 the price, I have even seen Acoustimas loudspeakers under a different brand going for £30 a pair, Bose charge just over £1,000 for 5.1 setup. I worked in audio retail at the time, the cheaper ones we didn't think were worth it.
 
personally I'm quite happy with this news

I'm in the market for a high end Mac Pro soon. I've been wondering whether to wait for the new ones (which can't be that far off looking at the buyers guide) or get one of the current range. If I can be sure they will be updated at Macworld I will wait for the new ones.

This news just confirms that the update can't be that far off because Apple wouldn't leave the Mac Pro without what is probably the most popular display for Mac Pro users for too long.

I don't want to splash out on a £2500 computer only to find the Nehalem Mac Pro come out 2 months later and be 50% quicker for the same price.
 
Both of these items are incredibly over priced. Even beyond what Apple can normally get away with.
 
79 bucks isn't expensive for in-ears IMHO. It'll be interesting how they compare to Westone's UM1 or UM2 for example. UM1 are single driver while the Apple ones are dual driver.
 
  • The 14ms response time is better than some in its class at 16ms. Claims of "6ms" on most monitors are hokum. Unless you're paying over $2,000, you're not getting less than 10ms. For comparison, 14ms is the same as a 72Hz refresh rate.
  • I just got a set of Sennheiser CX 300 for $32. If you don't want the :apple: headphones, don't buy the :apple: headphones.
 
I think Apple's trying to price themselves out of the display market.

this new 24" is lame in every way a "cutting edge" display could be lame:

proprietary connector, glossy screen, no really useful ports, no adjustment controls and a 4-year-old price point.

i guess they did the math and found that there are still enough suckers out there that they will be able to make more profit selling fewer displays to a smaller group of richer, dumber people. I'm just glad there are plenty of other, better options out there!
 
Well yes and no. Display Port is a "standard" port. It is going to replace DVI and probably HDMI as it allows the best from both worlds basically.

The problem is that hardly anything in the rest of the industry uses it. Projectors...no ; High end seamless switchers...no; Other displays...no.

Apple adopted too soon on this.

-mark
 
One reason I heard that Apple uses Mini-DisplayPorts is due to how small the laptop's motherboard. All the ports fill up the entire side of it. Plus, w/ the whole front of the case being the battery, they had to move the DVD to the side. My question: why not reconfigure the display latch so that we can have some ports on the back of the laptop?

As for price, it's Apple as usual: going for high margins rather than high volume.
 
DisplayPort is a VESA standard and is backwards compatible with an adapter. Yes, you can use your existing Mac Pros with the new screens, as long as Apple release an adapter for their proprietary mini DisplayPort socket.
 
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