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24'' LED Cinema and In-Ear Headphones Shipping Soon?

thouts said:
Both of these items are incredibly over priced. Even beyond what Apple can normally get away with.
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Thats arguable. In ear headphones can go for way more than that if the quality is great. These could potentially prove to be extremely cheap.

For a professional display you can easily pay several thousands of dollars. I have never seen a display with better quality than an Apple Cinema Display without breaking out into the extremely high end pro displays.

Unfortunately as I detailed earlier the display will not sell. It is marketed more towards consumers imo, however no consumer will pay that for a display. It also does not target pros because of the glossy panel, and the fact that it does not work with the Mac Pro.

Please wait until you actually see and use these products before mindlessly bashing them.
 
Bad Paper said:
  • I just got a set of Sennheiser CX 300 for $32. If you don't want the :apple: headphones, don't buy the :apple: headphones.
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I'm looking for a decent pair of microphone-earbuds following the following criteria:
- fits into EDGE iPhone jack without adaptopr
- has a straight plug
- is not in-ear (I hate it when at lower volumes, all I hear is the wiggling cable)
- it has a microphone and a button compatible with the iPhone
- does not break within 3 months.

Seriously, the current Apple earbuds that ship with every iPod/iPhone sound ok, but the fall apart withing 4 months. It's either the rubber ring desintergrating, a capsule becoming almost silent or the white rubber around the jack (that's what she said :p ) falling apart, revealing the raw cables inside. I buy a new pair every year and get them replaced under warranty every few months, but it's annoying...
 
avkills said:
Well yes and no. Display Port is a "standard" port. It is going to replace DVI and probably HDMI as it allows the best from both worlds basically.
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DisplayPort will not replace HDMI. It is limited because it does not carry control or high quality sound. HDMI is not a VESA standard also. HDMI you have to pay royalties, DisplayPort you do not.


guzhogi said:
One reason I heard that Apple uses Mini-DisplayPorts is due to how small the laptop's motherboard. All the ports fill up the entire side of it. Plus, w/ the whole front of the case being the battery, they had to move the DVD to the side. My question: why not reconfigure the display latch so that we can have some ports on the back of the laptop?

As for price, it's Apple as usual: going for high margins rather than high volume.
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It seems Apple use a different socket, DisplayPort socket isn't that big, unsure why Apple wanted their own socket. The full sized socket is not really any bigger than a USB or HDMI socket.
 
MrCrowbar said:
I'm looking for a decent pair of microphone-earbuds following the following criteria:
- fits into EDGE iPhone jack without adaptopr
- has a straight plug
- is not in-ear (I hate it when at lower volumes, all I hear is the wiggling cable)
- it has a microphone and a button compatible with the iPhone
- does not break within 3 months.

Seriously, the current Apple earbuds that ship with every iPod/iPhone sound ok, but the fall apart withing 4 months. It's either the rubber ring desintergrating, a capsule becoming almost silent or the white rubber around the jack (that's what she said :p ) falling apart, revealing the raw cables inside. I buy a new pair every year and get them replaced under warranty every few months, but it's annoying...
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yeah the sound transmission from the cable is a burn out, but there's really nothing you can do about that.

but i prefer the in ear design.

the rubber ring on the ear buds dissolved after a few weeks of use for me.

i hope they do update the 2.2 firmware to allow these new ear buds to work with the iphone.
 
I really hope that the new cinema displays aren't just glossy and that they offer a matte finish as well.
 
nanvinnie said:
yeah the sound transmission from the cable is a burn out, but there's really nothing you can do about that.

but i prefer the in ear design.

the rubber ring on the ear buds dissolved after a few weeks of use for me.

i hope they do update the 2.2 firmware to allow these new ear buds to work with the iphone.
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I'm just glad that the UPS guy Apple sends gives me new earbuds and takes back the broken ones. We're almost buddies now, I even "got him" and jailbroke his iPhone. :)
 
MacRumors said:
Apple describes the new In-Ear headphones as being "engineered for superior acoustic accuracy, balance, and clarity" and were originally promised in October.
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Last I checked, my entire iTunes Library is MP3 files.
Does it matter how well they engineered the "acoustic accuracy, balance and clarity" of these new ear buds when the source file is compressed audio?
Seriously. :rolleyes:

Maybe Apple has a new audio compression scheme to roll out and these new ear buds will help users hear how awful MP3 compression can sound. :p

Just saying...
 
yikes

..... a lot of negative feedback here on the new LED display!

I'm about, finally, to jump off my old Powerbook G4 1.5Ghz, which is driving me NUTS, and get a new Macbook Pro 2.53Ghz. I was looking at displays and thinking, and the new LED is in the running: it's actually the default.

I'm just an ordinary joe who likes Apple displays. I sent at least one third party display back to the shop because its colors were unbearable compared to the screen on the Powerbook.

The absence of firewire sucks and makes no sense; so too the absence, so far, of an adapter that would allow me to use the new 24" display with the dying Powerbook AND the new Macbook Pro.

But anyway, what would people advise? It would seem, perhaps, a good time to pick up a 23" ACD, no?

My question (and we saw one response above): Is the backlit LED really better, more crisp, more all that, more blah blah blee, than the old LCD display of the old ACD's?? If so, why? If not, why?

I find the brightness not enough on the old ACDs.

Anyone?
 
dual64bit said:
Yeah, the 23" ADC was an HD screen, the 24" LED is not HD?! Is this right?
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The old 23" and the new 24" have the same number of pixels 1920x1200 (16:10 ratio). The 20" display on the iMac is a reduced quality one. The 24" is not. I have the 24" iMac with a glossy display and love it.
 
Object-X said:
Pretty disappointing specs. A 14ms response time is very poor compared to some monitors shipping with 6ms or less. It only has a 330 cd/m^2 compared to others with 400. Is that because it's an LED?
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Response time is an abused spec. It's probably better or worse depending on what's being displayed. Manufacturers love to claim good response times but you won't see it across the range and some (I'm looking at you Samsung) have terrible input lag (305T anyone?) which is even worse. Despite there being some kind of standard for response times (grey-to-grey, black-grey, etc) most manufacturers don't tell you what they used.

Traditional CRTs translate into a response time of about 12 ms.

And before you go spouting of 400 cd/m, do you even know what that means? Go spend a day with a monitor with a brightness that high and you'll see 330 cd/m is high enough, let alone 200.
 
I dont know if they were actually for sale, but the 24" display has been coyly catching my glances in my local apple store for the last week or two. (liverpool, UK by the way)
 
I'm having a bad feeling about things for Pro users.

What we 'know' (not rumors):

1. Display with same name as prior coming out that seems clearly targeted for consumer use (connects to laptops and is glossy).

2. 23" EOL (maybe a rumor).

3. Head of enterprise sales leaving.

4. Macbook Pro with glossy screen (doesn't meet most Pro requirements), so 'Pro' in name only.

Explain to me how this can all turn around with products like towers and displays targeting pro rather than consumer market.
 
the new displays are in apple stores already. .... I saw one 3 weeks ago when I bought my mbp. They look nice. Not sure who is going to buy them though.
 
does anyone know what the price of the 23" cinema display was in the UK higher education store?

thanks.
 
This irritates me no end - I would LOVE two of these displays for my Mac Pro, but noooooo, Apple have to gimp them with this whole DisplayPort nonsense. If they released an adapter at the same time, I'd be all over them. It just seems absolutely senseless to release a display which can only be attached to a laptop, when they KNOW there'll be people with Mac Pros who will expect to be able to plug an Apple monitor into it.

This is ALWAYS how Apple do things - make something fantastic while at the same time introducing some sort of fatal flaw which locks out a lot of people for no good reason.

Any why End-of-line the 23" Cinema Display? The new 24" LED display isn't a replacement for it, it's a seperate product from the existing Cinema displays due to its DisplayPort incompatibility with the Mac Pro (with no announcement of an adapter)

I'm almost always Apple's biggest fan, but sometimes you just have to wonder who's making some of these awful decisions in Cupertino.
 
ManhattanPrjct said:
For another $20, you can get the Bose In-Ear Headphone with different replaceable tips to match the size of your ear. Bose is a clear leader in this field at this price-point. I have to wonder sometimes what Apple is thinking when it decides on new products (and what to charge for them).
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And to think some believe Bose is overpriced. :rolleyes:
 
notjustjay said:
Again.

This has happened before with the ADC connector on the first generation of cinema displays. Everyone complained about the proprietary adaptor. Apple sold an ADC<->VGA converter. Everyone complained it was just a cash grab. Then Apple released the current generation of displays and made a big deal about "we use the industry standard port now! No more converter!"

And now we've come full circle.

Smacks of arrogance, plain and simple. They've always wanted to lock you into proprietary connectors, and force you to pay extra for converters (if they're even available -- so far, no news of one for this display). Perhaps with ADC, sales and market share were too poor so Apple was forced to play nice. But now with marketshare on the rise again, they see this as an opportunity to show their true colors.

Not impressed, Apple.
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No, please someone tell, Apple is the only company who makes monitors. :eek:
 
NATO said:
This irritates me no end - I would LOVE two of these displays for my Mac Pro, but noooooo, Apple have to gimp them with this whole DisplayPort nonsense.
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Adapters will come. The display haven't even shipped yet and everybody jumps all over Apple. Apple may even include an adapter or 2 with the display—DVI to mini DisplayPort is easily possible.
 
nick9191 said:
Whats the point in having a 24" display that only works with 3 products? If all Apple displays like this that means that Mini Display Port will end up on all products, even the Mac Pro. Apple must be absolutely mental if they think people will buy a $20 connector to attach to a normal DVI monitor to there $3000 computer. I guess they will supply both DVI and MDP.

This display will not sell, I can't emphasize that enough. Its not a consumer display because of the price. And whilst it might have amazing picture quality justifying that price like the current displays, it has a glossy screen meaning Pros wont buy it. I wont get into a matte vs. glossy debate, but the bottom line is, pros want matte. This display does not have a target market, other than the few pros who like glossy, and the consumer with more money than brains.

Apple seem to be making products based on what Steve Jobs and Tim Cook likes, and not what buyers like. And Steve Jobs has got major wood for glossy.
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In LESS than < 54 Days, we will have a bunch of Macs that support the new Mini Display Port. Probably EVERY product by January's Conference.
 
SpinThis! said:
Adapters will come. The display haven't even shipped yet and everybody jumps all over Apple. Apple may even include an adapter or 2 with the display—DVI to mini DisplayPort is easily possible.
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It's possible, however... the fact Apple announced a whole load of Mini DisplayPort to DVI, VGA adapters while at the same time deciding not to confirm or deny whether they intend to make an adapter for existing DVI Macs is what worries me.

I've also been told that techncially DisplayPort and DVI are compatible, however I wouldn't put it past Apple to have deliberately gimped the new Cinema Display so that it ONLY works with the MacBook family (*cough* MacBook Air SuperDrive *cough*)

It's the lack of information from Apple which drives me up the wall. Either say they're compatible with the Mac Pro or not, don't leave us all wondering. Realistically, the only way we're going to know is when one finally arrives with one of the tech sites who will no doubt try everything possible to see if it'll work with DVI... seemingly Apple think's its awfully difficult to just say yes or no.

/rant
 
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